do you guys think that its possible for everyone to throw 100mph if they work, work, work, and more work. Or is it true that your a slave to your body type?
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Definately the latter... I've worked worked worked worked worked worked... and top out at about 84-86. History (which mine has been discussed on this board before) has a lot to do with it too.
you cant teach 100... The same way you cant teach a slow kid to run a 6.4 60yd dash. There is always room for improvement, but talent does play into it.
This question is interesting to me as well. I've wondered how a small skinny kid, not very muscular can throw upper 80s and a big boy quite different in muscle mass that's the best he can do also. While I think body type has something to do with it, there's got to be more.
887, you'll never know what you personally are capable of unless you "work, work, work and more work"...
You certainly can make drastic improvements with correct work. Of course you need to work hard, but you also need to work smart. Doing a lot of the wrong thing won't do much.
As far as a smaller framed individual beaing able to pump 100 it is because of a few reasons. The main reason being the ability to properly generate force, which creates hip and arm speed.
Even though a guy may be bigger, he may not have the ability to generate the force needed to throw 100, even though his maximal strength in certain movements may be very high.
Does everyone have the ability to throw 100? Not in my experience. But 20 years ago most agreed that speed was difficult to improve. That has been disproven and it is quite simple in fact to get almost any player who puts the correct work in running a respectable 60 time. In fact, it is quite common to get kids running 6.7-6.9 times when a year earlier they were running mid-high 7's.
While I have seen pitchers improve mph into the lower 90's, I have not seen an 80 mph thrower improve to 100 on work alone. However, that is not to be said it cannot be done.
As far as a smaller framed individual beaing able to pump 100 it is because of a few reasons. The main reason being the ability to properly generate force, which creates hip and arm speed.
Even though a guy may be bigger, he may not have the ability to generate the force needed to throw 100, even though his maximal strength in certain movements may be very high.
Does everyone have the ability to throw 100? Not in my experience. But 20 years ago most agreed that speed was difficult to improve. That has been disproven and it is quite simple in fact to get almost any player who puts the correct work in running a respectable 60 time. In fact, it is quite common to get kids running 6.7-6.9 times when a year earlier they were running mid-high 7's.
While I have seen pitchers improve mph into the lower 90's, I have not seen an 80 mph thrower improve to 100 on work alone. However, that is not to be said it cannot be done.
Ya, there's no way any amount of work is going to guarantee 100 mph, but like others say, you're going to have to work your a** off if you ever want to find out just what you can achieve. This isn't to say mass improvements aren't possible...I went from mid 60's to mid 80's in 2 years. Now I'm 6'2", 17 years old, and weight about a buck 68, and continuing to work my a** off to see just how far I can get...but I'm pretty darn sure 100 mph isn't in my future....
Is there any way you can increase the speed on your pitch and what pitches should a 15 year old throw.
There are many ways for someone to increase speed of their pitch, perhaps the best way is to develop faster speed of movement and more momentum (with good mechanics), as pitching velocity is caused by elastic energy.
And it depends on the 15 year old. Principle of Individuality, what's their maturational age? Skill level? How long have they been pitching?
And it depends on the 15 year old. Principle of Individuality, what's their maturational age? Skill level? How long have they been pitching?
Thank You but is there any specific excersises that I can do to help increase the speed of my fastball.
I have pitched for 2 1/2 years but have only played for 3 and i am already 1 of the main pitchers on my team. I throw a fastball the majority of the time and have a curve but I don't really have control of it. So in other words i dont have a offspeed pitch and it jacks me up every time. I get up in the count 0-2 and they hit it off me everytime. I have alot of accuracy with my fastball just nothing else. So XFactor do you have any suggestions to help me out.
I have pitched for 2 1/2 years but have only played for 3 and i am already 1 of the main pitchers on my team. I throw a fastball the majority of the time and have a curve but I don't really have control of it. So in other words i dont have a offspeed pitch and it jacks me up every time. I get up in the count 0-2 and they hit it off me everytime. I have alot of accuracy with my fastball just nothing else. So XFactor do you have any suggestions to help me out.
I assume you already have developed a general level of fitness, which should be of endruance and explosive exercises across the whole body.
Endurance (aerobic) training promotes faster recovery from fatigue, is the best form of activity for active recovery, facilitates a greater volume of non-endurance activity training, strengthens connective tissues, and increases heat tolerance.
Explosive training conditions the body to respond in different postures with maximum speed and effort.
The general fitness is a base on which you should focus specific fitness. Training activities that do not replicate the physiological and neuromuscular components of a sport have the potential to detract from performance through "negative transfer".
Something to work on would be ultra-short running training.
An example:
Set = 3, Rep = 5 times, Distance = 20 M, Intensity = 100+%-- 4 sec, Recovery = 25 sec, Recovery activity = walk 2 minutes between sets
Set = 4, Rep = 5 times, Distance = 10 M, Intensity = 100+%, Recovery = 20 sec, Recovery activity = jog 2 minutes between sets
Set = 2, Rep = 10 times, Distance = 10 M, Intensity = 100+%, Recovery = 15 sec, Recovery activity = jog 2 minutes between sets
Note: Should performance begin to deteriorate, the set should cease and the two-minute recovery period between sets instituted.
(Speaking in terms of a conditioned individual with more than a beginner skill level in pitching)
Pitching velocity can be improved but rarely through physical interventions. A baseball pitch is a complex motor skill that requires body segments to be dequenced and timed appropriately to conserve and transfer momentum. At its completion, the accumlated momentum needs to be controlled and applied to a baseball in a precise manner that will result in particular behaviors by the baseball.
To improve velocity is to increase speed of movement and momentum.
Endurance (aerobic) training promotes faster recovery from fatigue, is the best form of activity for active recovery, facilitates a greater volume of non-endurance activity training, strengthens connective tissues, and increases heat tolerance.
Explosive training conditions the body to respond in different postures with maximum speed and effort.
The general fitness is a base on which you should focus specific fitness. Training activities that do not replicate the physiological and neuromuscular components of a sport have the potential to detract from performance through "negative transfer".
Something to work on would be ultra-short running training.
An example:
Set = 3, Rep = 5 times, Distance = 20 M, Intensity = 100+%-- 4 sec, Recovery = 25 sec, Recovery activity = walk 2 minutes between sets
Set = 4, Rep = 5 times, Distance = 10 M, Intensity = 100+%, Recovery = 20 sec, Recovery activity = jog 2 minutes between sets
Set = 2, Rep = 10 times, Distance = 10 M, Intensity = 100+%, Recovery = 15 sec, Recovery activity = jog 2 minutes between sets
Note: Should performance begin to deteriorate, the set should cease and the two-minute recovery period between sets instituted.
(Speaking in terms of a conditioned individual with more than a beginner skill level in pitching)
Pitching velocity can be improved but rarely through physical interventions. A baseball pitch is a complex motor skill that requires body segments to be dequenced and timed appropriately to conserve and transfer momentum. At its completion, the accumlated momentum needs to be controlled and applied to a baseball in a precise manner that will result in particular behaviors by the baseball.
To improve velocity is to increase speed of movement and momentum.
Thank You for the excersises and do you have any tips to get control of my curveball and those types of pitches that will help out in a game.
Well, as long as there isn't any mechanical problem, pitching is a skill. To become better at it, you need to practice it more.
The best way to do that is to pitch in blocked sets (5 pitches) while videotaping. Have a goal. I want to throw my curveball/change low and away. Do that five times, then go and take a break (2-3 min) while looking at the videotape for feedback. Then repeat, maybe this time it's low and inside.
The goal is to throw the same amount of pitches you're required to in a game. That is, it doesn't make sense to throw 50 pitches when you're required to throw 100.
It doesn't make sense to throw 100 pitches in 20 minutes, because (without videotape) there's no feedback, meaning you could be practicing something bad. Also, it creates fatigue, and fatigue impedes learning.
Another advantage for throwing in blocked sets is that fatigue doesn't occur as fast as it would if you were to throw 100 pitches in 20 minutes.
Skills and tactical elements are learned faster and retained better when learning occurs in non-fatigued states.
The best way to do that is to pitch in blocked sets (5 pitches) while videotaping. Have a goal. I want to throw my curveball/change low and away. Do that five times, then go and take a break (2-3 min) while looking at the videotape for feedback. Then repeat, maybe this time it's low and inside.
The goal is to throw the same amount of pitches you're required to in a game. That is, it doesn't make sense to throw 50 pitches when you're required to throw 100.
It doesn't make sense to throw 100 pitches in 20 minutes, because (without videotape) there's no feedback, meaning you could be practicing something bad. Also, it creates fatigue, and fatigue impedes learning.
Another advantage for throwing in blocked sets is that fatigue doesn't occur as fast as it would if you were to throw 100 pitches in 20 minutes.
Skills and tactical elements are learned faster and retained better when learning occurs in non-fatigued states.
Thank you so much XFactor you have been a great help and if i have anymore questions do you have a email that i can contact you to ask.
Sure, I sent you a PM
quote:Originally posted by Jon Doyle:
the ability to properly generate force, which creates hip and arm speed.
That is what it is ALL about.
That single little phrase above.