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I am curious as to why the ball is not dead when a defensive player catches  a ball that leaves the field of play.

 

I get it when the player reaches over the fence to make a catch, but I just watched the Toronto catcher make a play where he caught a pop foul over the dugout and then fall over er the dugout rail into the  dugout. Why is the ball still live? Why are not runnerson base awarded the same bases they would be if the ball rolled into or was thrown into the dugout?

Same question with plays like jeeter catching pop up along third base line and winding up completely in the stands?

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Good question... OBR rules 5.10(f) 

5.10

 

The ball becomes dead when an umpire calls “Time.” The umpire-in-chief shall

call “Time”—

 

(f) When a fielder, after catching a fly ball, falls into a bench or stand, or falls across

ropes into a crowd when spectators are on the field. As pertains to runners, the provisions

of 7.04(c) shall prevail.

 

7.04 (C)

7.04

 

Each runner, other than the batter, may without liability to be put out, advance one

base when—

(c) A fielder, after catching a fly ball, falls into a bench or stand, or falls across ropes

into a crowd when spectators are on the field;

Rule 7.04(c) Comment: If a fielder, after having made a legal catch, should fall into a stand

or among spectators or into the dugout or any other out-of-play area while in possession of the ball

after making a legal catch, or fall while in the dugout after making a legal catch, the ball is dead and

each runner shall advance one base, without liability to be put out, from his last legally touched base

at the time the fielder fell into, or in, such out-of-play area.

 

In FED - Bases are awarded.

Actually, not only did he fall he was assisted by non playing members of the team in the dugout to regain his footing.

Even if he did not fall tho what difference does it make by rule? If on his feet he was on his feet off the playing field..is this not out of play by definition?

What about when Jeter went completely into the stands off the third base line? Is in the stands different from or the same as in the dugout?

Thanks again but sign me still confused

Originally Posted by NoReplay:

Actually, not only did he fall he was assisted by non playing members of the team in the dugout to regain his footing.

Even if he did not fall tho what difference does it make by rule? If on his feet he was on his feet off the playing field..is this not out of play by definition?

What about when Jeter went completely into the stands off the third base line? Is in the stands different from or the same as in the dugout?

Thanks again but sign me still confused

Under OBR, if the player makes a catch, goes into the dugout but stays on his feet (even if he is assisted), the ball stays live (no base awards).  Under FED rules, the ball is dead as soon as both feet touch DBT.

Originally Posted by NoReplay:

Actually, not only did he fall he was assisted by non playing members of the team in the dugout to regain his footing.

Even if he did not fall tho what difference does it make by rule? If on his feet he was on his feet off the playing field..is this not out of play by definition?

What about when Jeter went completely into the stands off the third base line? Is in the stands different from or the same as in the dugout?

Thanks again but sign me still confused

He did not fall.  He was assisted.  That is allowed.

 

Here's one of the rules"

Ball is in play, unless the fielder, after making a legal catch, falls into

a dugout or other out-of-play area, in which case the ball is dead. Status of runners shall be as

described in Rule 7.04(c) Comment.

 

I cannot comment on the Jeter play without seeing it.

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