Due to 35 player limitations a freshman player gets cut in Feb. it's to late for JC or any other related baseball teams. so very few options. is that player free next fall to sign and play with any other D1 program ?
Thanks
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He's probably going to have to sit out the next year if he goes to another D1. He he goes D2 or JUCO he could play immediately.
That would be unusual. I believe most cuts are usually done in the fall, so the kid can get on a JUCO team for the spring.
Threefingerglove will chime in here when he sees this, but I am pretty sure he will not have to sit out as long as he has not participated in any games.
I would call the NCAA to discuss with them your situation. They were helpful to me when I had some questions regarding eligibility.
I would call the NCAA to discuss with them your situation. They were helpful to me when I had some questions regarding eligibility.
Any player from a 4 year school (D1 or not) who transfers to a D1 has to serve a year in residence before being eligible to play, with one exception.
Since in this case the player was cut, we know that he wasn't on athletic scholarship. If he also wasn't recruited to his present school, then the exception (14.5.5.2.10.2) to the transfer rule would apply. Not recruited is defined in the Division 1 Manual , 13.02.13.1, and is triggered if the player had an official visit, received more than one phone call from the coach, or had an off campus arranged meeting.
Since in this case the player was cut, we know that he wasn't on athletic scholarship. If he also wasn't recruited to his present school, then the exception (14.5.5.2.10.2) to the transfer rule would apply. Not recruited is defined in the Division 1 Manual , 13.02.13.1, and is triggered if the player had an official visit, received more than one phone call from the coach, or had an off campus arranged meeting.
3FG,
I am glad this came up because I have never fully understood exactly what they are talking about in 14.5.5.2.9, particularly subsection c. This says they cannot take the unrecruited player exception if they participated in countable athletic activity for more than 14 days. Does practicing with the team not count? What am I missing here?
I am glad this came up because I have never fully understood exactly what they are talking about in 14.5.5.2.9, particularly subsection c. This says they cannot take the unrecruited player exception if they participated in countable athletic activity for more than 14 days. Does practicing with the team not count? What am I missing here?
quote:Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
Any player from a 4 year school (D1 or not) who transfers to a D1 has to serve a year in residence before being eligible to play, with one exception.
Since in this case the player was cut, we know that he wasn't on athletic scholarship. If he also wasn't recruited to his present school, then the exception (14.5.5.2.10.2) to the transfer rule would apply. Not recruited is defined in the Division 1 Manual , 13.02.13.1, and is triggered if the player had an official visit, received more than one phone call from the coach, or had an off campus arranged meeting.
Two different rules. 14.5.5.2.9 applies to all athletes. Countable activities is just about anything associated with the athletic program, and certainly includes practice. Note that the recruiting must not have been done by the new school. In other words, no sit out needed for a student who has never played or practiced any sport in college and is a true walk on at the new school. I wonder if this has ever happened in baseball.....
14.5.5.2.10.2 is a kind of exception to the one-time transfer exception, clause (a). It is really only of value to baseball, basketball, football, and ice hockey players. Those are the only sports which don't allow the one-time transfer exception, and 14.5.5.2.10.2 provides relief for those sports. Here the recruitment must not have been done by the old school, and the player can have never received athletic aid. In other words, a very late bloomer who is now an athletic mismatch at his old school.
14.5.5.2.10.2 is a kind of exception to the one-time transfer exception, clause (a). It is really only of value to baseball, basketball, football, and ice hockey players. Those are the only sports which don't allow the one-time transfer exception, and 14.5.5.2.10.2 provides relief for those sports. Here the recruitment must not have been done by the old school, and the player can have never received athletic aid. In other words, a very late bloomer who is now an athletic mismatch at his old school.
I see said the blind man. :-) I had actually stopped reading after the first section of 14.5.5.2.10 which says the one time transfer doesn't apply to baseball, etc. Should have read a little further for the exception to the exception. Thanks for the explanation.
MTH, you're not the only one that stops reading after that first section of the Bylaw. From some of the parents I've spoken to, there are coaches that haven't read any farther than that either.
3FG, regarding your comment "..we know he wasn't on athletic scholarship..", I agree that in almost every case that will be true. However, I do know of a case in which a scholarship player was cut even though it meant the coach was going to have to work with a 34-man roster as a result. Assistant coaches couldn't even believe the head coach did that.
3FG, regarding your comment "..we know he wasn't on athletic scholarship..", I agree that in almost every case that will be true. However, I do know of a case in which a scholarship player was cut even though it meant the coach was going to have to work with a 34-man roster as a result. Assistant coaches couldn't even believe the head coach did that.
Why not NAIA?
There are great NAIA, Division 2 & JC Texas schools.
The key is the choice of a Summer College League.
Find a school and a coach who will help you with your summer options.
Have your son make the contact.
Bob Williams
There are great NAIA, Division 2 & JC Texas schools.
The key is the choice of a Summer College League.
Find a school and a coach who will help you with your summer options.
Have your son make the contact.
Bob Williams
Rick,
Yes I thought of that. But the OP said "Due to 35 player limitations....", so I assumed that he wasn't on scholarship.
Yes I thought of that. But the OP said "Due to 35 player limitations....", so I assumed that he wasn't on scholarship.