Rumor -- Grapevine ends Coppell's season.
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quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Rumor -- Grapevine ends Coppell's season.
I heard 5-0 in the sixth.
It's over. Grapevine wins over Coppell 5-0.
This is a joke right? I saw ESPN Rise magazine today and the Coppell guys were already holding their state championship medals.
It's why they play the games, eh? The Cowboys have some great players but I am not shocked. Grapevine has a lot of talent as well. Congratulations to GHS.
Here's a recap of upcoming South Texas playoff games/series:
26-5A 3rd place Churchill defeats 25-5A 2nd place Pflugerville 2-0 in Game 1. Game 2 is Sat. at 7:30 p.m. at Pflugerville.
26-5A 2nd place Smithson Valley H.S. played 25-5A 3rd place Bowie Bulldogs tonight at Burger Field in Austin. No score reported yet. Game 2 is Friday at 7:30 p.m. (either at Blossom - San Antonio or New Braunfels).
26-5A 1st place Reagan H.S. plays Austin Connally Thursday at 7:15 p.m. at Connally, then at San Antonio Blossom Stadium on Saturday at 5 p.m., with the 3rd game if needed right afterwards. On the bump in Game 1 will be LHP Sam Houston State-signee Sasaki, who is 6'7", for Connally and RHP Northwestern State-signee Matt Harrell for Reagan.
28-5A 4th place Stevens played 27-5A 1st place Corpus Christi Carroll in Game 1 at 7:30 p.m. tonight. No score reported yet. Game 2 is Saturday at 2 p.m. at Corpus Christi Cabaniss Field and Game 3 if needed is 30 minutes following Game 2.
26-5A 4th place Madison H.S. plays 25-5A 1st place Austin Westlake Thursday at Dell Diamond in Round Rock.
26-5A 3rd place Churchill defeats 25-5A 2nd place Pflugerville 2-0 in Game 1. Game 2 is Sat. at 7:30 p.m. at Pflugerville.
26-5A 2nd place Smithson Valley H.S. played 25-5A 3rd place Bowie Bulldogs tonight at Burger Field in Austin. No score reported yet. Game 2 is Friday at 7:30 p.m. (either at Blossom - San Antonio or New Braunfels).
26-5A 1st place Reagan H.S. plays Austin Connally Thursday at 7:15 p.m. at Connally, then at San Antonio Blossom Stadium on Saturday at 5 p.m., with the 3rd game if needed right afterwards. On the bump in Game 1 will be LHP Sam Houston State-signee Sasaki, who is 6'7", for Connally and RHP Northwestern State-signee Matt Harrell for Reagan.
28-5A 4th place Stevens played 27-5A 1st place Corpus Christi Carroll in Game 1 at 7:30 p.m. tonight. No score reported yet. Game 2 is Saturday at 2 p.m. at Corpus Christi Cabaniss Field and Game 3 if needed is 30 minutes following Game 2.
26-5A 4th place Madison H.S. plays 25-5A 1st place Austin Westlake Thursday at Dell Diamond in Round Rock.
I enjoyed watching the Coppell/Grapevine game tonight, although it was about as one sided as you might've expected - just the other way around. Mason Melotakis dominated the game from the mound. He gave up a leadoff double off the top of the left field wall to Jacob Morris, but Coppell couldn't get him over with a bunt, or in with a hit. That gave Grapevine a little momentum, and they never let it go. They basically played the entire game mistake free. Meanwhile, Coppell dropped the ball a couple times and basically never did anything with the bats. Grapevine played errorless ball behind Melotakis. They also executed a squeeze play on a tough pitch, a slash, and basically did what Coppell didn't do: make all the plays. Congratulations to the Mustangs!
Scoring summary:
Bottom of first: Grapevine scores two on 5 walks. Literally. No hits. Lots of complaining from Coppell, but I was right behind home plate. The ump was fine. A bit tight, and might've missed a couple calls, but he is, after all, human, and Hermans was just missing the zone most of the time. Personally, I was surprised that there were no mound visits during this inning.
Grapevine added one in the bottom of the fourth on a double by Suttles that could've been caught in left, but the fielder didn't anticipate the stiff wind blowing out to LF enough. Next, an RBI single up the middle by Hightower that Kettler got to and just missed plated Suttles. I'm not being critical - these are great players for Coppell. I'm just pointing out that they simply didn't play well tonight.
Grapevine added 2 more in the fifth when Brockenbush, D. Milo, and Wettig all singled, and Suttles got the squeeze down. These were solid hits and I attribute part of this to Hermans being tired from throwing 35 pitches in the first inning.
Offensively for Coppell, they got the leadoff double in the first, and singles to lead off the second and third innings by Hermans and Toth, and a single with two out in the sixth by J. Walsh. Kaskow managed to get HBP, J. Walsh had a walk, and Apple had a hard earned walk with two outs in the seventh. That was all of the baserunners. One was erased by a double play, and Melotakis had 6 Ks.
Congratulations Coppell on a great year, and best wishes to Grapevine for continued success moving forward.
Scoring summary:
Bottom of first: Grapevine scores two on 5 walks. Literally. No hits. Lots of complaining from Coppell, but I was right behind home plate. The ump was fine. A bit tight, and might've missed a couple calls, but he is, after all, human, and Hermans was just missing the zone most of the time. Personally, I was surprised that there were no mound visits during this inning.
Grapevine added one in the bottom of the fourth on a double by Suttles that could've been caught in left, but the fielder didn't anticipate the stiff wind blowing out to LF enough. Next, an RBI single up the middle by Hightower that Kettler got to and just missed plated Suttles. I'm not being critical - these are great players for Coppell. I'm just pointing out that they simply didn't play well tonight.
Grapevine added 2 more in the fifth when Brockenbush, D. Milo, and Wettig all singled, and Suttles got the squeeze down. These were solid hits and I attribute part of this to Hermans being tired from throwing 35 pitches in the first inning.
Offensively for Coppell, they got the leadoff double in the first, and singles to lead off the second and third innings by Hermans and Toth, and a single with two out in the sixth by J. Walsh. Kaskow managed to get HBP, J. Walsh had a walk, and Apple had a hard earned walk with two outs in the seventh. That was all of the baserunners. One was erased by a double play, and Melotakis had 6 Ks.
Congratulations Coppell on a great year, and best wishes to Grapevine for continued success moving forward.
what a game Quote" thought Coppell was something special"
coppell does have alot of special talent and you can't take anything away from their season. anything can happen in a one game series. its about who is hot at the right time.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
It's why they play the games, eh? The Cowboys have some great players but I am not shocked. Grapevine has a lot of talent as well. Congratulations to GHS.
Congratulations to Grapevine on a well earned win and good luck in the next round.
Congratulations to the Cowboys on a nice season and thank you for the memories.
I'm not sure what happened but I am sure it no longer matters. Good kids and good coaches that just couldn't get it going tonight.
No regrets and no excuses.
quote:Originally posted by ACowboyFan:quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
It's why they play the games, eh? The Cowboys have some great players but I am not shocked. Grapevine has a lot of talent as well. Congratulations to GHS.
Congratulations to Grapevine on a well earned win and good luck in the next round.
Congratulations to the Cowboys on a nice season and thank you for the memories.
I'm not sure what happened but I am sure it no longer matters. Good kids and good coaches that just couldn't get it going tonight.
No regrets and no excuses.
Great sentiment, CowboyFan, that had to be a tough loss. This forum could use more of that.
quote:I'm not sure what happened but I am sure it no longer matters.
Cowboy Fan,
That's a great post after a very tough loss and sudden way for your season to end. I totally respect it, and think we can agree to disagree, because you and I are different on one thing. I do think it matters why the game went the way it did. I'm always asking why, because I think that experience only makes us better when we learn from it.
This is not a criticism of any of the players at Coppell. While it would've been nice to see them play well and compete for a state championship, these guys have LOTS of good baseball in front of them and I wish them well.
Congratulations to my buddy, bball71tx, and his Grapevine Mustangs on their big playoff win.
Too bad you couldn't beat Northwest this year...
Too bad you couldn't beat Northwest this year...
I still don't understand why Coppell agreed to a 1 game deal????
quote:Originally posted by CoachTraub:quote:I'm not sure what happened but I am sure it no longer matters.
Cowboy Fan,
That's a great post after a very tough loss and sudden way for your season to end. I totally respect it, and think we can agree to disagree, because you and I are different on one thing. I do think it matters why the game went the way it did. I'm always asking why, because I think that experience only makes us better when we learn from it.
This is not a criticism of any of the players at Coppell. While it would've been nice to see them play well and compete for a state championship, these guys have LOTS of good baseball in front of them and I wish them well.
Easy to explain why....Coppell had a bad day when the other team had a career night! But maybe with more mental prep I guess it might have been different. Hats off to Grapevine, they played flawlessly. Would have been interesting if it had been best 2/3. But thats how the coin flips sometimes.
Anything can happen in baseball, and the odds of something strange happening significantly increase in a 1 game series.
quote:Originally posted by doubleday:
I still don't understand why Coppell agreed to a 1 game deal????
Grapevine coach wanted a 1 game playoff, Coppell coach wanted 2 out of 3. If the coaches do not agree, then you have a coin flip to decide it.
Grapevine won the flip, thus the 1 game playoff. End of story.
Anytime the coaches meet to decide a playoff series and they don't agree on an issue, you coin flip to decide it. "I want to play at home game 1..." "No, I want to play at home game 1..." FLIP FOR IT. "We want to wear white game 1..." "No, we want to wear white game 1..." FLIP FOR IT. "I want to play on Thursday..." "I want to play on Friday..." FLIP FOR IT.
Get the picture? You see, winning a district championship is over-rated. Sure, you get to play a 4 seed in the first round, but...you DON'T get home field advantage...you DON'T get to dictate any of the series set up. Is it fair? Well that is for another thread.
Bottom line, this is why we play the game on the field instead of paper. I mean a piece of paper is not very big and how would fit all those players from both teams on it?
Good luck to everyone...unless you are playing us.
Based on the power of hitting, I would have to agree that Coppell up and down would have been at an advantage in a 3 game series.
However, don't discount Grapevine. They have had some tough luck with hitting in District play this year, but they have 2 Ace pitchers in Melatokis and White and a strong defense. It was a worthy effort against some great talent.
However, don't discount Grapevine. They have had some tough luck with hitting in District play this year, but they have 2 Ace pitchers in Melatokis and White and a strong defense. It was a worthy effort against some great talent.
quote:Originally posted by tychco:
Congratulations to my buddy, bball71tx, and his Grapevine Mustangs on their big playoff win.
Too bad you couldn't beat Northwest this year...
Tychco, you will always have that one memory to hold on to.... and also the fact that "Tater Jr." picked off "Tychcobrat" evry year for 3 years in a row.
Must have learned base running from Dad.
Hugs and Kisses
P.S. Thanks for the kudos for GHS, it was great for our boys.
quote:Based on the power of hitting, I would have to agree that Coppell up and down would have been at an advantage in a 3 game series.
Coppell scored 1 run total in their last 3 games combined (going 0-3 in that span) to finish the season. Hard to win many games when you don't score runs. The bats seemed nonexistant vs LHP's. But hindsight is 20/20 I guess...
quote:Originally posted by bball71tx:quote:Originally posted by tychco:
Congratulations to my buddy, bball71tx, and his Grapevine Mustangs on their big playoff win.
Too bad you couldn't beat Northwest this year...
Tychco, you will always have that one memory to hold on to.... and also the fact that "Tater Jr." picked off "Tychcobrat" evry year for 3 years in a row.
Must have learned base running from Dad.
Hugs and Kisses
P.S. Thanks for the kudos for GHS, it was great for our boys.
What was he doing on base so much? He decided to start hitting doubles this year to save himself the embarrassment of being picked off.
Good luck next week.
Am I the only one concerned with the fact that Tater, Jr. might be flying armed aircraft over my house in a few years. I've seen him drive a car...
Congrats to Grapevine for the great win last night and to the Cowboys who had a great season.
Congrats to Grapevine for the great win last night and to the Cowboys who had a great season.
quote:Originally posted by utilityman:quote:Based on the power of hitting, I would have to agree that Coppell up and down would have been at an advantage in a 3 game series.
Coppell scored 1 run total in their last 3 games combined (going 0-3 in that span) to finish the season. Hard to win many games when you don't score runs. The bats seemed nonexistant vs LHP's. But hindsight is 20/20 I guess...
A LHP is a normally a sound strategy against a team stocked with switch hitters. Turn them around right handed, and it makes it tough when they are used to seeing RHP's 70+ percent of the time.
How many times are the Cowboys going to be knocked out of the playoffs before someone starts pointing the finger at Don English? It's always the old '1-game series' excuse, or any of a myriad of reasons why a so-called "superior" Cowboys team comes into a playoff game tight or unprepared. That's COACHING, and English has a long history of making his teams underperform. What coach, seeing a starting pitcher give up FIVE walks in the 1st inning, would not make a trip to the mound sometime during that ordeal to help settle him down? ENGLISH probly knew his presence would make it worse for Hermans. Face it, a monkey could take this team with 6 D-1 players farther into the playoffs, and should have. Coppell deserves better, and has now for a long time.
quote:Originally posted by Maverick0714:
Am I the only one concerned with the fact that Tater, Jr. might be flying armed aircraft over my house in a few years. I've seen him drive a car...
Congrats to Grapevine for the great win last night and to the Cowboys who had a great season.
You are only concerned because (1) He know where you live, and (2) He like to lock in his targets on Obama liberals. BOMBS AWAY !!!
Tell Mav Jr. Good Luck tonight, I plan on catching you guys on Friday.
"Air Force- When it absolutely, positively needs to be destroyed overnight"
quote:Originally posted by bball71tx:quote:Originally posted by Maverick0714:
Am I the only one concerned with the fact that Tater, Jr. might be flying armed aircraft over my house in a few years. I've seen him drive a car...
Congrats to Grapevine for the great win last night and to the Cowboys who had a great season.
You are only concerned because (1) He know where you live, and (2) He like to lock in his targets on Obama liberals. BOMBS AWAY !!!
Tell Mav Jr. Good Luck tonight, I plan on catching you guys on Friday.
"Air Force- When it absolutely, positively needs to be destroyed overnight"
Remember... Mansfield does not serve Scotch at the consession stand...
Would there be this much critique of Grapevine and their coach had they lost? One reason a 1 game series is tough, if things are not on it could end quite dismal. You go with what has worked, and Zak Hermans has been great all season. I hated it for him, but sometimes it takes years to figure out the "whys" of the way things happened. Both teams prepared hard for this, but momentum went Grapevines way and not Coppell's. I have been watching baseball since oldest brother in highschool in the early 70's and watched Catcher play a few games too. And now to watch my son, it is a game of inches and we saw that lastnight with walks, line drives, etc..--that is what makes it the great american pasttime. Good luck to all the teams that will continue in the playoffs.
Copell Cowboys were nothing but CLASS last night. What a great group of boys. Grandson has hung with these boys a time or two and I have nothing but respect for them. Congrats on a great season.
quote:Originally posted by Catscradle:
Would there be this much critique of Grapevine and their coach had they lost? One reason a 1 game series is tough, if things are not on it could end quite dismal. You go with what has worked, and Zak Hermans has been great all season. I hated it for him, but sometimes it takes years to figure out the "whys" of the way things happened. Both teams prepared hard for this, but momentum went Grapevines way and not Coppell's. I have been watching baseball since oldest brother in highschool in the early 70's and watched Catcher play a few games too. And now to watch my son, it is a game of inches and we saw that lastnight with walks, line drives, etc..--that is what makes it the great american pasttime. Good luck to all the teams that will continue in the playoffs.
I can attest to that about Hermans...he stuck it to us twice this year in district. He is a great pitcher and a great young man. I thought I was at the wrong game when I was watching him struggle. But to his credit, he kept battling which is all a coach could ask for.
There are times in life, as well as high school baseball, when you just can't explain why things happen. I think we should give more credit to Grapevine's coaches and players instead of dog piling on Coppell's. If you stuck around last night like I did, it was tough to watch the Coppell players and coaches. I have been there too many times as a player and coach. One of the hardest things to do in any competition is winning when you are supposed to. Coach English is a winner and so are those young men.
quote:Originally posted by funneldrill:
I think we should give more credit to Grapevine's coaches and players instead of dog piling on Coppell's.
You could have stopped there. This is why funneldrill gets it.
There are great players on both teams. Grapevine was in district with tychcobrat#1's team. They have a good team. He has played numerous times with, and against, kids on Coppell, and they are great players.
Grapevine put it together last night and won. It isn't as shocking as everyone seems to be saying. Two 5A playoff teams getting after it and one came out on top. No bad calls and no bad coaching decisions. Just kids playing.