Post Game Cheer

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What would you think of us as an opponent if we didn't cheer for you?

I would assume that mostly you are a boy's team.

I would line up and shake hands as you suggest and no more. I don't know why people come up with ideas like this but if that is what they want to do then so be it. I would not worry about what they think for not reciprocating. The handshake already shows proper respect to the opponent. No need for you to repeat someone elses goofball manuever imho.

For me personally the after game hand shake stuff is ludicrous---you spend two hours or more trying to batter their heads and now you are lovey dovey---say what you want but I don't like the way it happens now--- who invented this procedure anyway---you do not see the pros doing it

The same with after game team cheers--I am more interested in getting off the field and getting to the meeting to go over the mistakes

IMHO--After game handshake for high school age is a good show of sportsmanship a chance to congradulate the opposing team on a well played game. A after game cheer is a little much, pretty corny. Just tell opposing coach your boys not into the cheer-thing. If your team conducts themselves in a respectful manner no offense should be taken.

baseball dad

It is kind of tough to be "sportsmanlike" after they threw at you best hitter isn't it?

TRhit--Hopefully in high school that doesn't happen. After what happend in Mi. I would hope that any coach with a ounce of common sense would realize never to make a high school pitcher hit an opposing player with that intent--my son is a pitcher and would never stoop to that level. Imange the guilt the opposing pitcher feels in Mi. and it probably wasn't done on purpose.
I have taught my son to never compromise his values because someone else lacks them.

If two MMA fighters or boxers can shake hands after one beat the other to a pulp, why the heck can't a baseball team?

If they don't have integrity it doesn't mean you can't show yours.

handshake OK, but no cheer... no way.

If you must participate in the g game line, wear your batting helmet.

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Originally posted by Daque:

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What would you think of us as an opponent if we didn't cheer for you?

I would assume that mostly you are a boy's team.

Good answer!

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Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
I would line up and shake hands as you suggest and no more. I don't know why people come up with ideas like this but if that is what they want to do then so be it. I would not worry about what they think for not reciprocating. The handshake already shows proper respect to the opponent. No need for you to repeat someone elses goofball manuever imho.

"Don't dismiss a good idea simply because you don't like the source."

I've never heard of it being done in baseball. In football though, our school does it after shaking hands. "Three Cheers for the OPPONENT, Three Cheers for the Referees, Three Cheers for the Fans, Three Cheers for the BULLDOGS!"

I have seen it in little league. I would have a hard time not laughing my ___ off if I saw it at a HS game.

The handshake is fine to me. Hey baseball dad 46, the players shouldn't need the coaches approval on hitting a batter if it's warranted. The players should do that. Down here, if another team hits our best batter a couple times in a row or something like that, our team would tell our pitcher to hit the opponents pitcher when he comes up to bat. An if he didn't, well, I'll just say I feel sorry for the kid for the next week or so.

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Down here, if another team hits our best batter a couple times in a row or something like that, our team would tell our pitcher to hit the opponents pitcher when he comes up to bat. An if he didn't, well, I'll just say I feel sorry for the kid for the next week or so.

If I have a pitcher intentionally hit a player, he may just sit for awhile. Throwing inside to send a message is fine; hitting a batter on purpose is NOT.

Yep. There is a problem when a kid intentionally throws at a batter. He has no idea what the outcome will be. Is it worth the risk? Who is going to take responsibility if it goes terribly wrong?

I have had players thrown at and hit and thrown at and missed. But I have never told a player to throw at anyone and would never condone that action. If I thought one of our kids threw at someone they would be in serious trouble.

There are other ways to send a message to the other team. How about telling the other coach your not going to stand for it? Pitching inside is part of the game. Backing a kid off the plate is part of the game. Throwing at a hs batter is not part of the game.

Can you imagine telling a player to hit a batter and then he throws at him and the kid is seriously hurt or even killed? Now how do you feel? Can you imagine condoning that type of action by your players and then something like this happens? How do you feel now? Was it worth it?

So if you call an inside pitch to "send a message" and the pitcher misses his mark and hits the batter, then what? I mean, you would be the one that told your pitcher to "send a message". At my son's school, the coach doesn't know about it. It's in between the players on the team. An if they all seem to agree or a majority vote wins, then it happens. The coach doesn't have to know nothing. Sorry coach, the pitch got away from me.

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At my son's school, the coach doesn't know about it. It's in between the players on the team. An if they all seem to agree or a majority vote wins, then it happens.

Coach knows about it. It's not that hard to figure out.

Coach May, as we have seen this past week, it doesn't have to be on purpose to lead to horrible things...

Rock n Fire---Never agree with hitting a high school player--is not part of game--throwing inside to back off plate is fine. Catch a good high school pitcher throwing some heat and instead of using a mit turn and let it hit you.
My son will never feel the guilt of intentionally throwing at a kid and possibly severly injuring or worse. His team would never ask him to do it, that is not the way they were taught to play the game.
Tit for tat is just not the right way to handle if you think opposing team is purposly throwing at your kids--to be honest--my kid has played for 7 yrs --and Ive never felt a kid was thrown at intentually. That is bad sportsmanship.

Baseball Dad, I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you. I as well as others think it is a part of the game. Now look, I'm not talking about throwing at a hitters head, that would be totally uncalled for. An if I was a coach and seen one of my pitchers throw at a hitters head, I would definitely take him out right then and there and maybe suspend him for his next start, but I see nothing wrong with hitting a kid in the thigh if the kid threw at one of my guys/player. Again, that's something the players do, I have nothing to do about that and my son doesn't pitch. I will say this though, as my son is one of the better players on the team, if my son got hit numerous times or my son and the opponents pitcher have had some beef of some sort (getting hit by him in the previous game or something) you can bet that when the pitcher comes to bat, he would get plucked. The players take care of it themselves. You can say that "their protecting their own". Coach or no coach.

Rock N Fire--Agree to disagree . Just so you know --my son has lead his team in being hit by pitches last 2 yrs. was hit 15x last year--tends to crowd plate--never felt he was hit on purpose, I am sure they threw inside trying to back him off--that is part of baseball--Trying to hit a kid with an 80+ fastball is not. Agian look at what happend in Mi.
Why would a kid throw at another kid in high school baseball in the first place?

Like I just said, to protect their own. My son has been hit quite a bit also (not nearly as much as your son) and has eaten it and took his base. Everything is all good with that. I'm not saying that every time one of my sons teammates gets hit we go after them, but on occasion it does happen. If his teammates feel it was on purpose, then they take it from there. Here's an example but it doesn't involve getting hit by a pitch in the first place. My sons team was playing another team in the Saladino Tournament last year. In the championship game, we were leading by one run heading into the last inning. The other team was batting and their homerun hitter was up with a guy on base. To make a long story short the kid hit a bomb and his team took the lead. As soon as the kid hit the bomb he stood there and watched it, then he flipped his bat towards my sons' team dugout and began to showboat as he was rounding the bases. It was nothing to the extreme but it was enough to be noticed. My sons team was scheduled to play this same team right after the tournament two days later for a regular game. All these kids know each other through summer ball and showcases. So some of the kids on my sons team told the kid who showboated that you know it's coming next time we face you. The kid who showboated said I know, maybe I took it a little to far and so on. Well, the kid said he was sick for their next game when they faced each other, so my son and a couple of teammates started ribbing him and poking fun, like come on you know you ain't sick and stuff like that. Come to find out, we played that same team in our first game of next season. So the kid who hit the bomb and showboated had to listen to it the whole summer with them saying you know we ain't forgot. First at bat the next season, the kid gets plunked on the first pitch. He takes his base smiling while my son and his teammates smiling back. It's just how it is, most of the time they know it coming. Good times good times.

Sorry for being long.

Agree to disagree . Coach of showboat should have handled it, should have sat a long time on bench. I understand your thought process--just don't agree.

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Originally posted by Baseball Dad 46:
Agree to disagree . Coach of showboat should have handled it, should have sat a long time on bench. I understand your thought process--just don't agree.

Have a great day Baseball Dad 46, it was nice having a conversation with you. I also see where you're coming from to and I will pass it on to my kid so hopefully he'll then pass it on to his teammates. Like you said, somebody is gonna get hurt sooner or later and I want them to take that into consideration. Thanks for the good valid points.

Its all about intent. If you intentions are to work inside to back a kid off the plate and you throw too far inside and hit him "that is part of the game." If your intent is to hit a player on purpose for any reason then you risk having to live with the consequences of those actions if it goes wrong.

Its easy to say "If they throw at us we are going to throw at them." But its alot harder to live with the outcome if or when it goes bad. I would hate for my kid or anyother kid to have to live with knowing they seriously injured or killed another player.

There are many ways to handle this type of situation that do not present the type of issues we are talking about.

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Originally posted by Yankeelvr:
Once the game is finished I like my team to line up immediately at the plate to shake hands. Some teams feel the need to get together and give a 'Nice Game Anytown' cheer. Is my team required to reciprocate? I think it far more respectful to line up quickly and personally congratulate the opponent rather than give some half-hearted, generic cheer. What would you think of us as an opponent if we didn't cheer for you?

how old are these players????

A handshake and g-game is more than enough to do up to the high school level.

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Originally posted by njbb:
how old are these players????

U12

Have always though it odd that kids say good game even when it wasn't....say after a mercy rule.

What else can be said? Get better? Nice effort?

Anybody got anything else?

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Anybody got anything else?

Those are the kind of games where the g game ritual may result in a brawl. I don't know where that ritual came from unless it is the individual one to one thing you see in MLB. Maybe girl's softball. But with male hormones raging it is risky business.

Yeah.

"Good luck the rest of the season."

I should have said I am referring to my son's 7U coach pitch team. It is quite the norm for the teams to line up at 1B & 3B and then cross the diamond slapping hands and giving the obligatory "good game".

Many of these games turn into routs and it looks painful for the losing team to say gg.

What else could be said in this situation?

Lines of definition need to be established with regard to age groups so that the discussion has credibility