Can anyone verify that Peter Marso is a NY Yankees scout? He was advertised as such by Blue Gray - apparently works for Blue Gray and coached at the Blue Gray St. Petersburg. I've been told by another that he isn't.
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My son was contacted by Peter Marso.He called our home after seeing my son at SelectFest last month at Rutgers University. I asked a Pro Scout who we know about Peter Marso. He said he is a "Bird Dog" Scout. The scout that we know also said he never heard of the Blue Gray!!. This of course sent up a red flag.
So I should be very cautious about what Peter asks my son to participate in. He's told him to participate in the Connecticut Top96 and that he'd be coming to see him when he plays fall ball. I really have my doughts. You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but in the world of pro-scouts - what is a "Bird Dog" scout?
Why don't you call the Yankees???
Maybe ALBBall can do the same?
Maybe ALBBall can do the same?
Tigger08,
A "Bird-Dog" scout or "Associate Scout" usually work for the "Area Scout" (paid) in their respective local area. The Bird-Dog and/or Associate Scout does NOT receive compensation for this work.
I hope this helps!
O42
A "Bird-Dog" scout or "Associate Scout" usually work for the "Area Scout" (paid) in their respective local area. The Bird-Dog and/or Associate Scout does NOT receive compensation for this work.
I hope this helps!
O42
I would definetly take up Chill's advice that she has given.
Be leary of any person representing himself as a scout and telling you what to do.
Be leary of any person representing himself as a scout and telling you what to do.
Tigger
My point was to take the time to find out rather than post on a message board that you heard he was not who he said he was??
Go to the source.
His name does appear on the Top96 list of attendees.
My point was to take the time to find out rather than post on a message board that you heard he was not who he said he was??
Go to the source.
His name does appear on the Top96 list of attendees.
Peter Marso is an associate scout for Cesar Presbott who is a scouting supervisor for the NY Yankees> Cesar covers New England for the Yankees.
Real simple with anyone, asked for a business card from any scout
Real simple with anyone, asked for a business card from any scout
Associate Scouts (Bird Dogs)
There are some clubs that have stopped using associate scouts. There are many reasons for this.
There are some very good associates who help the area supervisors a lot. There are even more associates who are only interested in helping themselves. They use their "associate scout" title for other purposes aside from what they're expected to do.
The good ones when asked will tell people, "I'm an associate scout who helps out so and so (area scout)". The problems arise when the "associate scout" who is not on the MLB clubs payroll, tries to speak for and represent the club. These are the "associate scouts" who don't use the word "associate" when identifying themselves.
Try to remember that associate scouts are volunteers. There are no requirements or expertise needed. The best sometimes end up with a real scouting job. Many are coaches at various levels of amateur baseball, these are usually, not always, the best ones.
Just like anything else, there are good "associate" scouts and there are bad ones. Usually the best ones go unidentified to everyone but who they report to. I wish I had a dollar for every person who has identified himself as a MLB scout. When I talk to the scouting director he's never heard of him.
I can only say there are many more bird dogs than there are paid scouts. We should all applaud the good associates and ignore the rest.
I've heard some real unbelievable stories involving bird dogs. One guy tried to impress a banker by claiming he had drafted and signed some very famous first round picks. After checking with the MLB front office, they found out no one there had ever heard of him.
The person mentioned in above posts might be one of the good ones. People just need to know that associate scouts are volunteers and do not work directly for the club. Some do very little work, but sure do use the title "scout" a lot.
This is not to say associates shouldn't be respected. People just need to understand the pecking order, before thinking someone is something they're not. Beware of the bigshots who give tons of advice but don't get paid a dime for all their expertise.
To all the real good and very valuable bird dogs out there... I apologize, but then again you would know exactly what we're talking about.
There are some clubs that have stopped using associate scouts. There are many reasons for this.
There are some very good associates who help the area supervisors a lot. There are even more associates who are only interested in helping themselves. They use their "associate scout" title for other purposes aside from what they're expected to do.
The good ones when asked will tell people, "I'm an associate scout who helps out so and so (area scout)". The problems arise when the "associate scout" who is not on the MLB clubs payroll, tries to speak for and represent the club. These are the "associate scouts" who don't use the word "associate" when identifying themselves.
Try to remember that associate scouts are volunteers. There are no requirements or expertise needed. The best sometimes end up with a real scouting job. Many are coaches at various levels of amateur baseball, these are usually, not always, the best ones.
Just like anything else, there are good "associate" scouts and there are bad ones. Usually the best ones go unidentified to everyone but who they report to. I wish I had a dollar for every person who has identified himself as a MLB scout. When I talk to the scouting director he's never heard of him.
I can only say there are many more bird dogs than there are paid scouts. We should all applaud the good associates and ignore the rest.
I've heard some real unbelievable stories involving bird dogs. One guy tried to impress a banker by claiming he had drafted and signed some very famous first round picks. After checking with the MLB front office, they found out no one there had ever heard of him.
The person mentioned in above posts might be one of the good ones. People just need to know that associate scouts are volunteers and do not work directly for the club. Some do very little work, but sure do use the title "scout" a lot.
This is not to say associates shouldn't be respected. People just need to understand the pecking order, before thinking someone is something they're not. Beware of the bigshots who give tons of advice but don't get paid a dime for all their expertise.
To all the real good and very valuable bird dogs out there... I apologize, but then again you would know exactly what we're talking about.
Can you find a list of all the MLB team's scouts? If so where.........Thanx PGStaff
We have a list of every full time Major League scout. We once offered people to email us if they had any questions about someone. Several people did ask.
Also Baseball America and The Baseball Blue Book have the scouts listed. However, there's usually a turn over in scouts, especially in the fall and winter, so sometimes these lists get a bit outdated.
Also Baseball America and The Baseball Blue Book have the scouts listed. However, there's usually a turn over in scouts, especially in the fall and winter, so sometimes these lists get a bit outdated.
Some associate scouts work very hard, some not at all. They are basicially interns and only receive any money if the player they recommend is signed by the that club.
cool thanx for the info
FeedMyEgo,
Sorry, but that name needs to go!!
Sorry, but that name needs to go!!
But Bob, that article left out the most common scount. The Wannabe Scout.
bbmom
why?
it feeds my ego
why?
it feeds my ego
Feed
You asked very politely--- change it !!!!!
You asked very politely--- change it !!!!!
Trhit
It's not offensive.
It feeds my ego.
It's not offensive.
It feeds my ego.
quote:Originally posted by FeedMyEgo:
Trhit
It's not offensive.
It feeds my ego.
Not to mention it's your choice to go by whatever name you want to use.
Novice Dad
Not if it is found offensive which has already been noted by one poster publicly
Not if it is found offensive which has already been noted by one poster publicly
Novice -- Thanks for the support
TR, let me start with I value the advice that you give on this site and am not looking to get into a spitting contest with you.
I think we will need to agree to disagree. Is FeedMyEgo (the name) a little cocky...yep. Is it offensive as in vulgar I don't see it. I also don't see it as productive for the site for posters to feel unwelcomed, or feel like an outsider due to an oldtimer (or anyone else) pushing their view as the only way.
Now you could tell "FeedMyEgo" that hey your name is a bit cocky and that you would recommend that if he has an e-mail address with that name you would not recommend using when communicating with coaches. To me that would be fair if he is looking for the advice.
Anyway, I look forward to reading your posts on other subjects that effect the recruiting process.
Also let me apologize for getting side tracked on this "Pro Scout" thread.
Thanks
I think we will need to agree to disagree. Is FeedMyEgo (the name) a little cocky...yep. Is it offensive as in vulgar I don't see it. I also don't see it as productive for the site for posters to feel unwelcomed, or feel like an outsider due to an oldtimer (or anyone else) pushing their view as the only way.
Now you could tell "FeedMyEgo" that hey your name is a bit cocky and that you would recommend that if he has an e-mail address with that name you would not recommend using when communicating with coaches. To me that would be fair if he is looking for the advice.
Anyway, I look forward to reading your posts on other subjects that effect the recruiting process.
Also let me apologize for getting side tracked on this "Pro Scout" thread.
Thanks
