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Question about Ivy League

O OklahomaLefty10+ posts
I need a little help with my college decision, very confused right now...

I'm a LHP 6'2" 210 Sr. I had arthroscopic surgery on my throwing elbow in November. It went good, just started throwing again last week. During summer played for very competitive traveling team. I got my fastball up to 85 mph before surgery, and doc thinks there will be no problem getting back there.

Here's my problem: I know that my ability and the contact I have gotten that I can easily sign with a junior college and get playing time early. Heres the catch. I got my ACT score back and I made a 31, and I maintain over a 4.0 GPA. My parents think that my acacademic ability will be somewhat wasted by attending a juco. They will always put education first and baseball second. I kind of agree with them. I always thought there would be nothing better than attending an Ivy League school. I know they give no athletic scholarship, but the quality of education cannot be beat. My question would be how much do they help out there athletes? Would an athlete get the same scholarship as an non-athlete with the same credintials? I'm just confused on how it all works.

Thanks for any input in advance.
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CPLZCPLZ1,000+ posts
Ivy league schools give only need based aid, nothing scholastic, nothing athletic. The amount of aid you would get would be identical to a non-athlete coming from the same financial situation.

Your parents have given you wise counsel, and it sounds as though your gut is telling you they have also. Trust your instincts, they will rarely let you down.

Best of luck.
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P PGStaff10,000+ posts
Lefty,

You are on the right track, please listen to your parents. May I suggest that you contact several Ivy League programs ASAP. If you need contact info feel free to PM me or email jerry@perfectgame.org

I'll be pretty busy for the next week or so, but will try to help you get in touch with some Ivy league schools. They love to hear from people like you.

If for some reason the Ivy's don't work out, there are lots of great academic schools that will be interested in Mid 80s lefties with your academic ability.

Good luck
S stanwood100+ posts
Okla,

Please read this article, Harvard Grants , it's about Harvard replacing all loans with grants. If your parents make say between $120,000 and $180,000 per year they will only be on the hook for 10%. If they make between $60,000 and $120,000 they will pay a sliding percentage. If they make below $60,000 they will pay nothing (as has been the case.) This is a fantastic opportunity for a good student like yourself. Look into it. It might be a great way to get a top notch education and continue to play baseball.
CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
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My parents think that my acacademic ability will be somewhat wasted by attending a juco.


I don't know you personally, however I know academic ability can wasted at an Ivy League school just as easily as any "other" school.

There are many JCs in California sending well prepared kids to top schools like UCB, UCLA, UCSD etc. Don't dismiss a school academically until you have researched it. You might find the particular program at the Ivy League school you are interested in may not rank any better then your local state university.
D dbg_fan1,000+ posts
Hmm. Have you had any contact with any Ivy League school admissions offices? Have you had any contact with any Ivy baseball coaches? This is not insightful, but admission at these schools is highly competitive. If you have had no contact at all to this point, your admission odds look pretty slim.

If you have scouting reports from reputable sources that enjoy quality relationships with one of the coaches in the Ivy League, then there is still a chance to gain admission into an Ivy college. Ivy schools try to fill their rosters with early commit applications (pre-Thanksgiving). But many baseball student-athletes make spring commitments to Ivy schools.

Good luck.
LL Louisiana Lightning10+ posts
It is true that Ivy schools do not give merit or athletic aid, however, as the parent of two children who attended Columbia University, I can tell you first hand that it cost me no more than it did to send them to high school. That's because the Ivy endowments are so rich that a large portion of one's educational expenses are covered by them. Harvard, Princeton and Yale could do away with tuition for all their students and still be financially in the black. Columbia and the rest of the Ivy's could reduce tuition significantly, as well. The Ivy's have made so much money in investments over the past decade, or so, that they are all flush. Trust me, no matter how much money you make, fill out the FAFSA and submit it. You will be surprise by how much the Ivy's will help.
FrankFFrankF1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Louisiana Lightning:
It is true that Ivy schools do not give merit or athletic aid, however, as the parent of two children who attended Columbia University, I can tell you first hand that it cost me no more than it did to send them to high school. That's because the Ivy endowments are so rich that a large portion of one's educational expenses are covered by them. Harvard, Princeton and Yale could do away with tuition for all their students and still be financially in the black. Columbia and the rest of the Ivy's could reduce tuition significantly, as well. The Ivy's have made so much money in investments over the past decade, or so, that they are all flush. Trust me, no matter how much money you make, fill out the FAFSA and submit it. You will be surprise by how much the Ivy's will help.

Very well said.

Counting tuition, room and board, my son still cost me less than if I would have sent him to CU or CSU!
D dbg_fan1,000+ posts
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I can tell you first hand that it cost me no more than it did to send them to high school.
I wish I could say that! My I assume that your children attended private schools? Beyond my school district taxes (which I continue to pay, of course), HS was free for my son.

Make no mistake, Dartmouth has been generous in their aid based on the EFC calculated by the FAFSA. Dartmouth has 'covered' the full amount of tuition and fees beyond the EFC amount. Even so, my son has incurred several thousand dollars worth of student debt. Dartmouth has a $3B (yes, billion) endowment. Every student could attend school tuition-free and Dartmouth would still be very well off financially.
LL Louisiana Lightning10+ posts
Yes, my children attended private school, but my wife worked for the school so we got a 1/3 discount from tuition cost. In the state of Louisiana, property taxes are minimal compared to other states where public schools are funded entirely by them. So you probably paid in property taxes what it cost me to send my child to private school. In states having a property tax system of funding their schools usually have better public schools, especially if the school district's demographics are high income. But I understand that may be changing in the near future where some of the money generated in those high income districts will be redistributed to lower income districts...as it should be.
K ken100+ posts
You can now add Yale to the list,http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-01-14-yale-cost_N.htm.
My son who is a soph. this year has already started making contacts himself by way of letters and clinics(he knows they can not contact him yet).Fill out the recruit info sheets you will find at any of the school websites and best of luck to you,its never too late.

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