My son recently attended a Division I baseball camp and received evaluation indicating everything was 2=Average in all categories. The scale went from 1=Below Average to 5=Elite. My question is should this be used to determine what level baseball he should be aiming for? Does it mean he's not good enough to even play college ball or he's average among Div I players? I just know one of the questions I keep reading is to ask somebody that's been around college baseball what level is reality? How good are they in eyes besides the parent.
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How old is your son? Was this a camp put on by only one school? I don't believe this 1-5 rating system is a "standard"...it's probably just something that that school put together for their evaluations. Has he heard anything from any coaches outside of that camp....other teams, schools, etc?
I would say it depnds upon your son's age - and the type of camp.
Were you at a prospect camp - or at a camp that just raises money for the program? There is a difference. What age is your son? If he is younger - than I wouldn't read too much into the evaluation.
However if he is in high school (recruiting age) and unless they pulled him aside and personally spoke to him - I would take the lack of interaction and lower score as a sign that possibly he may not be at that school's level. I guess it just depends upon who was there/instructors and the purpose of their camp....to raise money or look for up and coming players?
I know of a D1 program where at the summer camp - the volunteer assistant run everything. The head coach hardly is even involved.
Buckeye & BBALLFAN, My son is 2015 graduate, Right handed pitcher. I think it was a prospect camp for that school. We live in a small town and the baseball team isn't successful or popular so he's only seen at camps and/or showcases. He's had one college coach call him and invite him for a visit but other than that it's just been somebody that knows a coach said he knows of my son, etc. etc. In other words, I'm not putting much weight on it. I was concerned with the 2 rating in every category though. Was trying to grasp what it means if anything to his future or opportunities.
If he's a 2015 and wants to play D1, you'll have to get moving....right away. Most schools are wrapping up their 2015 recruiting classes...if they haven't already. Colleges start fall practice in the next couple weeks so coaches will be busy working with their own teams. Unless you can find a way to play in one of the "big" tourneys in FL yet this fall, your only real option is getting in front of coaches at their prospect camps this fall. Waiting until spring will likely be too late, as most, if not all D1 money is going to be gone by that time.
But it should also be emphasized that there are lots of non D1 options too. Don't forget those. D1 isn't the end all be all of college baseball. My own guy is gradually coming to accept that. He is now looking at competitive DII's, highly competitive DIII's, Highly competitive NAIA's, and even competitive JC's as his DI dreams are receding pretty quickly these days. Lots of possibilities out there besides DI.
...should this be used to determine what level baseball he should be aiming for? Does it mean he's not good enough to even play college ball or he's average among Div I players? I just know one of the questions I keep reading is to ask somebody that's been around college baseball what level is reality?..
I don't think you can expect the rating system to be consistent across other school camps but you can certainly use it as one data point. Hopefully your rising senior son has several others. Even if the HC wasn't doing the evaluating, it was likely a combination of assistant coaches and/or D1 college players from that school so there is a degree of merit to the marks. If you still have questions as to what level he should be targeting, you will want to get a few qualified evaluators take a look, and soon. Also, if that is the case, he is probably behind schedule on the recruiting timeline and needs to do some quick reading up and getting busy. Plenty of info here.
I would say it's a safe bet your son does not have a chance at that particular school. That doesn't mean that he doesn't have a chance at some other school. Without knowing more about your son, particularly his fastball velocity, it's hard to say whether other D1 schools would be interested or not. As many others have said, anyone who wants to play college baseball can find a spot somewhere if they try hard enough to find a match. Depending on the talent of the player, there may be big pool of options or a small pool of options.
Like Buckeye said, it's getting later in the process for a 2015, so you should start making the rounds to schools in your area or ones your son is interested in soon. Like throughout this fall. And as SluggerDad said, there are more options than D1 out there. Start looking into those as well.
He would be completely happy with Division II or a even Division III program with good academics. It's just a lot of stuff to figure out without much local guidance. I appreciate the feedback.
I looked at 2015 vs 2016 Commits on PerfectGame for the state of Florida. The counts are 170 vs 45. I would say... it's even getting late for the 2016s for some of the top programs, and the process is well underway for many programs.
What r his P numbers.
safe bet he's not a D1 pitcher, but that's ok
as a Sr. He should already be looking at colleges Academically. See which ones he likes and check to see if their schools have camps and go. Our local D11 and D111 coaches have been scouting 2015 since last Mar. They want to get good players too before someone else does.
Still time and he may dev more in next yr, but get busy . If he needs to improve his pitching and doesn't already have a pitching coach, get one in off season. ? Are you doing all the work or is he very motivated.
I think I am a broken record with this statement but will repeat it again. Have someone who is independent that has no economic gain in your son and has very good knowledge about college baseball give you his honest assessment of your son's capabilities. What is his size, age, weight, fasball velo sitting & peak,plus off speed pitches, breaking pitches ranking.
From the sounds of it I would venture to guess he has no shot at a D1 and likely not at a top D2/3. You need to asses his ability quickly and then target schools that fit his academic and baseball profile. Doing anything else is a waste of time IMO. Time is running out for a 2015 and while there is time left you better be focused. Find a JC in your area and have that coach give you his assessment as well as his opinion on him playing there.
Good Luck.
Penn State was looking for 2016's last Nov/Dec. Crazy how this process seems earlier each year!
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momofA,
Don't overlook NAIA schools !!!. We are going thru the process with our own 2015 grad and they have money to throw around, both academic and athletic.Im guessing they will top your D3 schools.