Question for PG, TR, Brian Rupe

Its,

Definitely better.

Is it because the players are actually better or because more people are aware of your existance and the better players are showcasing more?

Play every game as if it were your last

I think it is a combination

The talent is definitly better but they are also getting more exposure soi we see more good players

TRhit

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Completely misunderstood intent....

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TR,
Is the talent better as a whole, or do you see a more drastic improvement in pitching, or in position play?

I think the talent is not the big difference, the difference is that nowdays players in HS are taking conditioning more in serious than years ago. Also, more players are looking for private trainners, and are getting more technical help.

"Peace is, the respect for the other people's rights".
Benito Juarez

Chill,


??????? I thought it was an interesting question.

Recab,

I do see that. My '05 works his *** off conditioning 3-4 days a week, doing things we never heard of when I was his age,back in the dark ages.


Play every game as if it were your last

Its depends, 5 years ago, there were maybe 10 HS showcases, now over 40 HS Showcases all competing for the same players.

Sometimes you have to sit through watching 60 players that can't play to see 4 players worth recruiting. Some showcases will take any player with a check book.

I have seen players that throw 83-85 mph and are convinced they are MLB material and of course they claim your Radar gun is broken I really throw 90 plus.

I'm sorry Big

I thought I read dumb...not interesting.

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I understand !!!!!!

WHat I meant was that MY question was going to be a Dumb question, not itsinthegame's question. SOrry, itsinthegame

But I can see that I phrased it really badly!

I deleted that phrase.

Play every game as if it were your last

Sorry BigWI!
The noise of a heckler is still fresh in my mind...lol

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Am I going to have to separate you two?

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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:

Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.

I can't speak on behalf of the "40" showcases that "Dibble" mentions. I just know we see a larger number of talented players each year.

More First Round Draft picks.
More High Draft picks.
More total Draft picks.
More Division I recruits.
More total College recruits.
More talented players.

Just taking the last 5 years.

1999 we had 5 PG participants drafted in the first round.
2000 it was 7 1st rounders.
2001 it was 11 1st rounders.
2002 it was 16 1st rounders.
2003 it was again 16 1st rounders.
2004 We expect more than 16 1st round picks

The same thing has happened with total draft picks. It has grown to the highest total 409 drafted in the last draft.

The totals would look the same for College players, but it's harder to track exact numbers. We do know that each year there are a larger number of former PG Showcase participants playing on the teams in the College World Series. Last year 94 former PG players, (the most ever) were on the 8 rosters in Omaha.

Big WI, It was not a "dumb" question on your part either. Of course, we have seen more players each and every year. We've been very fortunate to see the majority of the very best. The best players are becoming more and more aware of what they should go to. Things have changed to the point that they often contact us before we contact them.

Most of the HS players have attended at least one PG event in 2003 whether it is a PG showcase or a tournament


http://www.perfectgame.org/2003/2003schedule.html

2003 PG events

17 HS Showcases
11 tournaments

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Originally posted by Orlando:
Am I going to have to separate you two?

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No, the confusion was caused by my inability to write clearly

Play every game as if it were your last

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Originally posted by Dibble:
I have seen players and parents that throw 83-85 mph and are convinced they are MLB material.

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Well if the parents can throw that hard, certainly their kid should project into the 90s.

Sorry how fast your dad throws has nothing to do with how fast your kid will Throw.

In Order by Fastest Observed Speed

Pitcher
Radar Speed
Date
Location

Mark Wohlers
103.0 mph
1995
Spring Training

Armando Benitez
102.0 mph
2002
Shea Stadium

Randy Johnson
102.0 mph
2002
Bank One Ballpark

Robb Nen
102.0 mph
10-23-1997
Pro Player Park

Rob Dibble
101.0 mph
1992
Candlestick Park

Kyle Farnsworth
101.0 mph
2001
Wrigley FIeld

Jose Mesa
101.0 mph
1993
Cleveland Stadium

Guillermo Mota
101.0 mph
07-24-2002
Dodger Stadium

Billy Wagner
101.0 mph
06-11-2003
Yankee Stadium



Nolan Ryan
100.9 mph
08-20-1974
Anaheim Stadium

Josh Beckett
100.0 mph
10-12-2003
Pro Player Park

J.R. Richard
100.0 mph
1976
Candlestick Park

C.C. Sabathia
100.0 mph
2002
Jacobs Field




none had a kid that threw even close to the dad

Itsinthegame, I would say over the years players are getting better because many parents are investing into specialized training during the off season. One thing that makes a big difference is many players are competing year round. ie.. fall ball, spring and summer ball and then lifting during the cold months. The more parents learn about what it takes for boys to play college baseball the talent can only improve.

www.midwestprospects.com

Midwestprospects.com

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Originally posted by Dibble:
Sorry how fast your dad throws has nothing to do with how fast your kid will Throw.

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none had a kid that threw even close to the dad

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Sorry Rob I was just commenting on your post about parent's pitching speeds. Maybe more gremlins will help your comprehension.