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I have a quick question regarding college baseball recruiting and tuition.

Example: X out of state school says, "With your X.X High School GPA, out of state tuition will be waived and you would get in-state tuition."

My question: Would that then be your academic scholarship and then you would recieve baseball money if offered, or would you get the in-state grant + possible academic scholarship + possible baseball money. This might depend on the school, but perhaps someone can shed some light on this.
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Trust me I am no expert in this subject but I will share my opinion. I was just cleaning out a drawer the other day and came across a "Statement of Account" from the bursar’s office during the fall semester of my son’s freshman year. In the “charges column” there is a charge:
tuition- non-resident= $5,844.00 and then in the “credit column” among the credits listed are:
“Baseball Scholarship” --- $3,961,00 and:
“Athletic Scholarship Waivers” --- $1,883.00.
The two combined equal the non-resident tuition charges.

While I tend to think the waivers in your son’s case are “academic” since they are based on his GPA, I also think waivers are more or less moot because as the name implies they are waived expenses and not incurred expenses. I might add that certain expenses never showed up on the Bursar’s statement and were paid differently. For instance books were just picked up at the depository and returned after the class ended. Room and board were paid by check directly to the player. The only written record I ever received on some covered expenses came to me on a IRS 1099 (or some type of income statement). Let me say too that none of the payments, credits, or waivers were based on my son’s academic prowess. Frown
It sounds as if your son will get non-residency charges waived, baseball money and depending on his academic strength, might be able to get some academic scholarship. (That would be nice - Congratulations!)
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Fungo is correct that a waiver is different. My son has athletic, academic and waiver money. His school started a new method of bookkeeping this year. We received a letter in August that out-of-state waivers would be recognized and applied before son's first semester in school. For bookkeeping purposes, we will never see the waiver terminology again. Son is now billed as an in-state student, and will be for four years. My understanding is that a waiver is not money awarded (though it amounted to nearly $10,000 per year for us!) and does not count against the athlete in any way.
Provi Celts 08 -- I'm wondering if you and I were in the same gym this past weekend, when I heard the recruiting coach talk about this and I asked him to repeat it! It was new info to me, but I was happy to get the education.

What I would say is, most of what I'm seeing among the first wave of '08's to reach scholarship deals is that the deals tend to be expressed in non-% terms, such as "we'll pay $x thousand towards your bill" or "we commit to covering your tuition but not room, board or books". When folks later talk to you, they tend to talk in terms of what % was offered, but that's often after they've done the math to convert the $ into a %.

I think there is an opportunity there to get the commitment stated in raw dollars without revealing that your son may later qualify for the tuition break, which is not financial aid but an academic award. This would allow you potentially to double dip -- which in my mind is wholly appropriate, since it rewards your son for both of the areas where he has no doubt worked very hard (academics AND baseball).

I would not reveal this to the coaching staff, because they may short you on the baseball money if they know about it. And since you have a fair right to seek money from both baseball and academics, I don't think this would be dishonest or improper. JMHO.
Not only will they "find out," it may be why they pursue you!

Seems to me that concealing the info will only hurt your chances to get an offer. Being academically eligible for money outside of baseball opens up LOTS of doors.

You know the snowball effect? For my "06, when the blended offers started coming in, the schools who don't blend (those with higher academic requirements) increased their offers to stay competetive.

We had one recruiting coach, who came in late in the game, say that after he checked my son's academics, he wandered over to the dept. where my son's academic interests were. He told us he then RAN back to the baseball office to call us. Because of out-of-state waivers and academic help, the baseball money was readily available to complete my son's package.

I've said it before...you need to be a strong player, but GRADES will open lot of doors for college baseball!

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