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roothog66 posted:
Shoveit4Ks posted:
RedFishFool posted:

 

(Or dress like a scout and act the part   )

Don't forget your Scout Starter Pack:

You forgot the clipboard, stopwatch and cell phone.

And can of Copenhagen.  Ooops sorry that is not PC - coaches (and parents) don't do that of course no tobacco ever don't even think about it LOL!!

CTbballDad posted:
Chico Escuela posted:
CTbballDad posted:

I think you should be careful.  No coach wants to see a dad with a radar gun behind the plate.  I would think that would raise a bunch of warning flags.  Ok, maybe not 'no coach', but I'm sure some would be turned off.

You have a point (and I appreciate you offering it--hope I don't seem otherwise). 

This is a frustrating process though:  A private college education is a $250,000+ expense--which I will pay for.  My 16-year-old (who can't remember to put his dirty clothes in the laundry basket) is supposed to handle contacts with college coaches up to the actual closing stage of arrangements for his higher education.  But I can't be too involved (such as by wanting to know what velo numbers my kid puts up at a showcase, so I know what types of schools he may be able to target).  Seems like teenagers navigating this process ought to be able to rely on their folks much more than coaches want them to...  

Yeah I hear you.  Was at a camp this week, after a personal coach request after they saw him several times this year.  Going in, I thought there was a good chance of an offer.  After striking out the first 6 batters he faced, I thought for sure.

No offer, no follow up, now were left wondering was he not throwing as hard as usual.  A gun would have been nice.  I even considered going behind the coaches to see if I could read there's,  it decided against it.

I wasn't being critical, just thought maybe some may roll their eyes.  But like you said, a lot of money, tears, emotions go into this process, so have as many tools as you think will help.

Good luck!

CT we've had a similar (although not as extreme - they've only seen my son a few times not several) experience this year with a school my son would love to attend.  Pitched about as well as he could but then silence.  Not even a "sorry we're no longer interested."  Well chronicled here, and part of what makes this process so frustrating.  I don't blame the coaches or expect anything, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.  Hope your son keeps pushing so far mine is!

I'd like to reiterate - there is no magic formula based on velocity for where your son could end up.  If you over-analyze it, you may be taking opportunities away from him that could've worked.  I have a  younger son who was 5-10 and threw 85 in HS.  Had we relied solely on velocity or pitch differentials (combined with size - another measurable)...we would never targeted a Pac12 school...let alone a D1 at all.

Instead, we listened to his coaches and a scout or two and let them tell us he could indeed pitch in that league and so we put him in front of them and he ended up at one.

OTOH, you may see 92 some day and convince yourself your son is an SEC pitcher.  Maybe?  Maybe not?

You have to take a little risk here - put your son in front of them and see what happens.  No, I wouldn't become a 'showcase pitcher' running all over the place, but you can do one or two and see what happens.  That will give you the answer.

justbaseball posted:

I'd like to reiterate - there is no magic formula based on velocity for where your son could end up.  If you over-analyze it, you may be taking opportunities away from him that could've worked.  I have a  younger son who was 5-10 and threw 85 in HS.  Had we relied solely on velocity or pitch differentials (combined with size - another measurable)...we would never targeted a Pac12 school...let alone a D1 at all.

Instead, we listened to his coaches and a scout or two and let them tell us he could indeed pitch in that league and so we put him in front of them and he ended up at one.

OTOH, you may see 92 some day and convince yourself your son is an SEC pitcher.  Maybe?  Maybe not?

You have to take a little risk here - put your son in front of them and see what happens.  No, I wouldn't become a 'showcase pitcher' running all over the place, but you can do one or two and see what happens.  That will give you the answer.

I know that's good advice (and thanks).  Velo isn't everything, but it's something--and something even I, whose baseball career ended after Little League--can observe, with a little help from technology.  

After he pitches my son and I often talk (only if he wants to) about how he felt that day, what he did or didn't do to prepare, what he thought he was doing right or wrong in his delivery, and how those things correlate with how he performed, including his velo (which at this age can vary quite a bit from day to day).  I don't know much, but I know that I don't know much.  So my main contribution is to occasionally say "that sounds like something you should ask your pitching coach about."  But I cherish the chance to have a conversation with my son about something he's passionate about--that's worth the price of a radar gun on eBay.

 

Qhead posted:
roothog66 posted:
Shoveit4Ks posted:
RedFishFool posted:

 

(Or dress like a scout and act the part   )

Don't forget your Scout Starter Pack:

You forgot the clipboard, stopwatch and cell phone.

And can of Copenhagen.  Ooops sorry that is not PC - coaches (and parents) don't do that of course no tobacco ever don't even think about it LOL!!

yall are missing the most important thing to be a millenial scout.  You must have a towel.  You don't have to use it but you must have one.

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