Radar Gun Readings

Jugs reads out of the hand and Stalker reads a bit after release. Out of the hand will generally read higher since the ball has traveled less distance and thus hasn't created much drag to slow it down.

That is how it was explained to me by a scout.

The gun doesn't know when the ball has been released...

Different guns may have different sampling rates, or perhaps different peak determinations. However, a knowledgeable individual told me that he had found Stalker's sampling rate to be just as high as Jugs.

The times I have seen Jugs & Stalker side by side, they generally read the same. On any given pitch, even two of the same brand can read a little difference.

"The gun doesn't know when the ball has been released..."

The gun knows when the ball has been released when the radio waves bounce off a moving target. At stand still there is no resistence for the waves to reflect off. When there is movement (release of the ball towards the area being hit with radio waves) the gun "knows" there is a target for it to radar.

The gun does know when the ball has been released.

Nope. I must respectfully disagree. It doesn't.

Have you forgotten that the ball is leaving a hand? The hand is moving (as is the arm). And while it is holding the ball, just prior to release, it has about the same radar signature as the ball (slightly larger, actually). The radar cannot distinguish between the hand/ball prior to release and the ball after release.

Texan is right.

When all else fails, go to the Stalker website:

Reads Baseball Release & Plate Speeds to 1 MPH
When tracking pitches, a peak speed setting will show the "out of the hand" reading. This is the most consistent and common place to measure the speed. If you want to see what the speed was as it crossed the plate, just turn off the peak hold. After the pitch, you can "toggle" back and forth between peak and plate speeds to view both.

Automatic Top Speed Lock
The Peak Hold feature allows the gun to automatically hold or recall the peak speed. It keeps both the continuously tracked speeds, and the peak speed in memory. Even after a tracking, you can refer back to see the peak speed or the last speed.

FEATURES

4 Digit Backlit LCD Readout
Automatic Peak Speed Hold
Memory Speed Recall
Switchable MPH / KPH Units
Application Selection Menu
Adjustable Sensitivity
Internal Self Test
Keypad Operation
Transmit by Trigger or Keypad
15 Milliwatt K Band Microwave
Rugged Polycarbonate Body
2 Year Parts & Labor Warranty
PERFORMANCE

Accuracy: +/- 0.1 MPH
Speed Range: 5-250 MPH, 8-400 KPH
Target Acquisition Time: 0.046 Sec.
Max. Range:

Cars -- 5500 Feet
Snowmobiles -- 1800 Feet
Watercraft -- 1000 Feet
Baseballs -- 300-350 Feet
DIMENSIONS

Weight: 2.5 Pounds (w/ Battery Handle)
Size: 3.5"W x 10.25"L x 9.25"H




Recommended for Pro Baseball Scouts
Professional baseball scouts often need to sit more than 200 feet away from the pitcher. Thanks to having three times the power of any competing pitching speed radar gun, the Stalker SPORT is able to consistently measure the ball speed at the moment the ball leaves the pitcher's hand, up to 350 feet away! No other baseball radar gun on the market can actually achieve that level of performance -- regardless of their claims.

If Stalker is measuring "out of the hand" (whatever that means) -- then what does JUGGS measure for it to be higher? -- when does it get faster than out of the hand? I'm pretty sure the laws of physics prevent a ball from actually picking up speed along the way, although I know it seems like that sometimes. It's all about technology with the guns. Their use simply creates a source of comparison from player to player. If a scout uses JUGGS for every kid he sees, he has the same "tool for evaluation" that the Stalker guy has. One scout doesn't call the other scout asking, "What did Sid Finch throw on Tuesday? And what gun do you carry?"

PD,

I think you are actually becoming even more of a smarty pants in your tenure as moderater!

Thanks....I think....

I'm confused???????????? I can tell you this they both cost to much

Ive seen both brands of guns give hi and lo readings,(ive seen juggs with lower readings than stalker just as often) we even had some cops we know (parents)radar with thier guns (brand unknown) and they are all fairly consistant.

We all know the police radar guns are off, they are always higher than the actual speed.

PD,
Nice Sidd Finch reference.
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