Can any tell me the difference between tha accuracy of a Juggs compared to Stalker Radar Gun.
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Stalker is usually 1 to 2 MPH slower than a Jugs gun
If it's your kid on the mound, they all read at least 5mph slower than his actual speed.. 
The Juggs does have a reputation of reading a little faster(1-2 mph) than the stalker gun on the same pitch.
Having said that, both are good guns - and when set up properly and used properly can give you a good idea of the speed of a given pitch.
Having said that, both are good guns - and when set up properly and used properly can give you a good idea of the speed of a given pitch.
Talk on radar guns can really be mind-numbing. I wish there were more scientific info. My reading on the subject is that the Stalker is about 3 MPH higher, on average.
I also understand that the MLB-average fastball is 90. Hey you pros, is that Stalker or Jugs?
I'm dying to know.
I also understand that the MLB-average fastball is 90. Hey you pros, is that Stalker or Jugs?
I'm dying to know.
quote:Originally posted by 2seamer:
If it's your kid on the mound, they all read at least 5mph slower than his actual speed..
For some dads I have seen, this would be more like 10 mph slower.
Both Stalker & Jugs are close enough to fulfill their purpose.
OK along the same lines. I've got a 15 yr.old Freshamn that is 6'3, 205 lb. RHP. Every time he pitches we get asked how fast does he pitch. Dad and coaches are amazed that we have no idea, we tell them we have never put a gun on him. Interestingly this past saturday we heard our son pitches 85 miles per hour consistently. We told the dad that told us thank you and we just giggled all the way to the car. The parents don't even have to be part of the mix and the fish tales keep a growing. Bet he is hitting 90 by next fall according to the rumors. Our decision that we would not gun him until the end of his sophomore year was made to leave pressure off of him. We knew he could pitch, I guess we are wrong in waiting, but ya gotta love the stories
Based on a small sampling of empirical data,
when a Stalker reading shows 89-90,
the Jugs (when on C) reads 86-87
and the Decateur reads 82-83.
Stalker have more consistent readings
than the fluctuations observed from the inconsistent (and aging) Jugs Gun.
Decateur readings are more consistent than Stalker when tuned to 60 with pitch fork!
Other than the baseball movies in the early-mid-1990's, rarely do you see the RayGun, anymore.
Due to price advantages, Jugs Radar may be observed from time to time, yet the newbies, bird dogs and associates will be seen using the newer (darker) Stalker (as opposed to the 'white' Stalker).
Regards
ps. At most MLB Parks, AAA, and some AA the readings are typically +2 from what is observed
on a hand-held Stalker. (Why? It sells tickets!)
when a Stalker reading shows 89-90,
the Jugs (when on C) reads 86-87
and the Decateur reads 82-83.
Stalker have more consistent readings
than the fluctuations observed from the inconsistent (and aging) Jugs Gun.
Decateur readings are more consistent than Stalker when tuned to 60 with pitch fork!
Other than the baseball movies in the early-mid-1990's, rarely do you see the RayGun, anymore.
Due to price advantages, Jugs Radar may be observed from time to time, yet the newbies, bird dogs and associates will be seen using the newer (darker) Stalker (as opposed to the 'white' Stalker).
Regards
ps. At most MLB Parks, AAA, and some AA the readings are typically +2 from what is observed
on a hand-held Stalker. (Why? It sells tickets!)
I was attending a 16U game in SoCal last winter.
A Jugs and Stalker were at the table behind the backstop side by side. Both were within 1mph on every pitch with variance equally divided on the low and high side.
Could be that the variance frequently observed is a result of the angle at which the gun is used.
Rollerman