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New to the forum here – great information on this site.

I’m looking for some advice and guidance.

My son just started his senior year of high school.  It’s worth noting that he’s a young senior (16-year-old), who will not turn 17 until late November.  Anyway, he just started playing organized baseball two years ago.  During these past two years he has completely fallen in love with baseball.  Even though he lacks experience compared to other players, he managed to earn a starting spot an above average travel team at 15u, and just finished-up his summer 16u season where he also started on very competitive team. .  He also played for his JV and Varsity teams, where he logged significant playing time JV and slightly less on Varsity.  

As it stands now he’s an average high school player.  However, I believe  that he has the natural ability to play at a moderately competitive DIII program, once he fills out and gains more experience.   He’s a lanky 6’4”, but very athletic (plays basketball and football too).  This summer he really stepped-up his game and performed well, which got me thinking that he might have a shot at playing college baseball.  We’ve actually been contacted by a couple of  D3 schools and invited to visit – these same coaches were at a couple of camps that my son attended.

My question is…how likely is it that a D3 baseball coach would look past the lack of experience, and lack of dazzling statistics and see the potential to develop a less experienced, younger player?  Does it make sense for us to explain to coaches that my son has only been playing for a couple of years, and that maybe he hasn't reached his full baseball potential?  Or is this something that coaches could care less about?  

Frankly, I have no idea how good of a baseball player my son could become.  He may have already reached his full potential, but I honestly don’t think so -- given the massive improvements he’s made, and the fact that he surpassing kids that have played the game for much longer than him.

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I have zero experience, just to let you know...BUT...put yourself in the coaches shoes.   I wouldn't think they cared about the kids pedigree of baseball they care about what the kid does on the field.

 

You can have a list of awards and trophies and top rated teams you have been on for 10 plus years....and it won't amount to crud if you can't field the ball or hit because others have now passed your level of playing ability.

 

My completely uneducated advice would be to keep your mouth shut about his experience and see what kind of offers you get.  If he starts to excel at a D3 school chances are pretty high other schools will notice and who knows what kind of options will be open to him then?

Some D3's carry very large rosters and even play a few JV games.

 

Other D3's trim their fall rosters quickly and don't carry any more players than D1 rosters.

 

Those in the first category are more likely to let him hang around long enough to blossom.

 

Understand, however, that most college coaches give most of their individual attention to refining the players who are already in the lineup and rotation--because that is the investment of personal time most likely to yield wins this year.  Wherever your son goes, he will have to assume full responsibility for his development, which means you may want to plan on continuing to invest in private instruction and personal trainers even after he heads off to college.


Best wishes, 

 

S

My son 2015 committed to a D1 in August.  The college coach that recruited him asked him about his HS season last spring and obviously saw him several times late this past summer.  He wouldn't know (or likely care) how my son did in the past....as stats as a HS player....or 15U travel player really mean nothing to him...he cares about what he sees now.

compass33,

 

Welcome, and thanks for posting. 

 

Since your son is somewhat new to the sport it may be a good idea to see what his travel coaches as well as some impartial baseball people think of his skills and his upside.  Have you tried to find someone in the area who is experienced in this type of thing...baseball academies, field scouts, etc....   One aspect of the recruiting process is knowing "what pond to fish in".  Who knows....your son could have D1 potential.  Based on your post, I don't think anyone knows at this point.  A 6'4" kid with great mechanics and high velocity will get noticed. 

 

D3 baseball is incredibly diverse.  There are many, many options.  My suggestion is to not limit his options to just D3 schools and baseball.  Look at everything you possibly can then focus in on specifics.  Talk to him about what he wants to do when he graduates then work backward toward what he wants to do over the next 4 years that will help him get there. College baseball can be wonderful, and it can be part of great learning experience but it is up to you and your son to find the right situation for him.

 

Good luck.

He starts in RF, and has played significant time at CF, LF and 1B.  His OF velo is 81 mph, and his exit velo (off the tee) is 84 mph.  He's academically sound - 3.5 GPA and 22 ACT -- he's interested in becoming a teacher - but that could change like the wind.  The coaches that have contacted him were impressed with his instincts in the outfield, particularly his ability to read the ball off the bat and take good routes to (and through) the ball.  Offensively, they liked his plate discipline and coverage - and that he is not a dead pull hitter -- he hits well to the R/C gap from the right side of the plate.   He's played in some of the PBR showcase camp/games, which is where he met one of the coaches that contacted him.  He's also participated in other miscellaneous camps in Michigan/ NE Ohio.  
 
 Originally Posted by cabbagedad:

What position does he play?  How hard does he throw?  What are his college/career aspirations?  Does he have specific schools in mind academically?  What did the coaches that contacted him have to say?  Has he been to or does he plan on attending any college camps or showcases?

 

Thanks for the reply -- projectable seems like the right definition for him.  He's very raw, but could fill out a 6'4" if he keeps working out (currently 178lbs).  He throws in the low 80's from the OF and has decent exit speed off the tee (84 mph).
 
Originally Posted by RJM:

At 6'4" if he throws in the 80s with decent form the D3s will be all over him. Your son is what's called projectable. If you can afford to pay for five years of college, with his age he could be red shirted his first year to physically fill out and improve. 

 

Compass...I would seriously consider the PBR unsigned senior games coming up in NE Ohio later this month.  They do a great job getting coaches to attend...and also getting info out to coaches who may not have made it.  I am in NW Ohio....and have been involved with some very good travel teams the past 5 or 6 years...and also run a tourney that has put me in contact with some coaches.   Send me a dialog with your son's name, school, etc....I have some connections that may be able to help

We're actually planning to sign-up for the PBR Western Michigan unsigned senior showcase in Grand Rapids this October.  Question -- do they allow Michigan students to attend the Ohio game?
 
 
Originally Posted by Buckeye 2015:

Compass...I would seriously consider the PBR unsigned senior games coming up in NE Ohio later this month.  They do a great job getting coaches to attend...and also getting info out to coaches who may not have made it.  I am in NW Ohio....and have been involved with some very good travel teams the past 5 or 6 years...and also run a tourney that has put me in contact with some coaches.   Send me a dialog with your son's name, school, etc....I have some connections that may be able to help

 

Originally Posted by compass33:
Thanks for the reply -- projectable seems like the right definition for him.  He's very raw, but could fill out a 6'4" if he keeps working out (currently 178lbs).  He throws in the low 80's from the OF and has decent exit speed off the tee (84 mph).
 
Originally Posted by RJM:

At 6'4" if he throws in the 80s with decent form the D3s will be all over him. Your son is what's called projectable. If you can afford to pay for five years of college, with his age he could be red shirted his first year to physically fill out and improve. 

 

The velocity I'm referring to is off the mound. A 6'4" pitcher throwing in the 80s would draw a lot of D3 attention. A coach would probably think he could get a raw pitcher to upper 80s.

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Originally Posted by compass33:
We're actually planning to sign-up for the PBR Western Michigan unsigned senior showcase in Grand Rapids this October.  Question -- do they allow Michigan students to attend the Ohio game?
 
 
Originally Posted by Buckeye 2015:

Compass...I would seriously consider the PBR unsigned senior games coming up in NE Ohio later this month.  They do a great job getting coaches to attend...and also getting info out to coaches who may not have made it.  I am in NW Ohio....and have been involved with some very good travel teams the past 5 or 6 years...and also run a tourney that has put me in contact with some coaches.   Send me a dialog with your son's name, school, etc....I have some connections that may be able to help

 

Compass.  I've seen Michigan kids at PBR events here in NW Ohio.  Email Chris Valentine with PBR.  His email is valentine@prepbaseballreport.com   I don't think there's any reason they would mind.

Based on all the info, I would say it is certainly possible for him to play.  As to your specific questions...

 

"My question is…how likely is it that a D3 baseball coach would look past the lack of experience, and lack of dazzling statistics and see the potential to develop a less experienced, younger player?  Does it make sense for us to explain to coaches that my son has only been playing for a couple of years, and that maybe he hasn't reached his full baseball potential?  Or is this something that coaches could care less about?"

 

Lack of experience won't be a problem if he shows the ability to compete at the appropriate level.  HS stats are usually not looked at too closely although some coaches will use relative success as one data point.  A reference from HS and/or club coach can be useful.  His present abilities is what the coaches will see and hopefully what will earn him more conversations.  At that point, there is nothing wrong with stating that he started the game late.  If he eventually becomes a P, it can be looked at favorably in that his arm has less wear and tear.  The other advantage is that his skills and arm strength can be developed more but most college coaches want the skills to be there already.

 

One of the challenges you face is that he is behind on the recruiting checklist and quickly running out of time.  Sounds like you have some of the right events in place.  I'm sure the Ohio PBR would welcome your son.  There is plenty of other info here regarding contacting schools/coaches, narrowing school choices and all other aspects of the recruiting process.  At the same time, he will need to continue working hard on improving his baseball skills.  If he decides to go for it, there may be some tough decisions to be made regarding other sports. 

Best wishes and let us know how things progress.

 

 

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