Recruiting and "Magnet Schools"

If it's a magnet program it'll be very difficult to prove that these students were recruited for baseball reasons.

A baseball parent from another Corpus Christi high school told me basically the same thing a couple of weeks ago. It's common knowledge that there are all sorts of players from outside Moody's attendance zone. But I'm not sure if the Moody coach is approaching players or if players are simply transferring in, ostensibly because of the magnet program, and expecting to play on the team.

I will grant Moody one thing: they accomplish a tremendous amount with very limited financial resources. I grew up in Corpus and I seriously doubt that many of the Moody players can afford regular lessons or travel ball. Mesquite Poteet definitely has a leg up on them in that area.

Quoted from this link: http://www.ccitonline.org/ceo/content.cfm?menu_id=136

Moody High School Science and Health Center (Corpus Christi)

In 1990, Baylor College of Medicine (BCM) began a partnership with the Corpus Christi Independent School District to assist in developing the Foy H. Moody High School Science and Health Center, a program designed to provide opportunities similar to those offered by the Houston and South Texas Magnet programs. The current enrollment of the Science and Health Center is 317 students, of whom approximately 92% are Hispanic and six percent are African-American. Students are selected based on grades, attendance, and commitment to health careers. BCM provides summer enrichment activities for these students at the College. BCM faculty provide instruction and clinical experiences, support curricular development and make presentations on the campus. The curriculum was revised in 2000 to focus on a college preparatory orientation. To date, the program has 437 graduates and two graduates have entered the BCM-UTPA BS/MD program. For more information, visit the Moody High School Science and Health Center web site.

Tip your hat to Moody and move on. They played a great game, and congrats to Poteet on making it that far.

Look, there are plenty of districts in Dallas that let you choose what school in that district you want to attend. If you want to play for another school, there are plenty of creative ways to do it.

I've seen situations where kids move around every year, chasing a state title. Not that hard, if that is your goal in life.

LT

LT -- well said -- I agree.

There's no shame in losing to the better team. Congratulations Poteet on a great season.

-PD

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Originally posted by Longtoss:
Tip your hat to Moody and move on. They played a great game, and congrats to Poteet on making it that far.

I for sure do tip my hat to them. I just don't understand why there is not more opposition to this or no one talking about it. When private school want in the UIL its a call to action for all parents with players in public school and the athletic programs at those schools. They don't want them in because the can unfairly recruit out of district. It is front page news in some papers. But this goes on with no questions. Maybe I am missing something here. I am not crying foul here. I don't necessarily think its a bad thing.

My question is why don't more districts do this. Why can't they just call it what it is, a baseball or football magnet school. How can they have preforming arts magnet schools (Booker T Washington in Dallas) But not have sports magnets. There are some kids that do have sports as a career goal. Whether is playing the sport, coaching, athletic trainer, etc..

that was my point in my previous post.
im not saying they are cheating or even taking away from their accomplishments.
I just cant get over the number of players in the starting line-up that didnt even live in the moody attendance zone. For this comment there are a number of people that simply want to ignore this.

Most people do not want to see the truth in this matter. I am not criticizing anyone I am merely pointing out a fact that i discovered watching the tournament games.
This seems to be an unfair advantage to me and I was trying to see what you guys thought of this situation

My question is if this has been going on at CC-Moody all this time why do they not win state every year? If you can't win with a talent pool like that, maybe a coaching change is in order.


If all school districts did the same thing can you imagine the teams McKinney and Plano would put on the field? They might as well go ahead and make room reservations every June in Austin/Round Rock.

Uh, p1, have you looked at Moody's record over the past some odd years?

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Originally posted by Texan:
Uh, p1, have you looked at Moody's record over the past some odd years?

Yeah but how many state titles. With a team like that you measure success in state titles not district and area titles.

Here is another angle on this whole thing with CC-Moody how does CC-Calalen deal with this. Do they get to recruit outside thier attendence areas? If they can't how fair is that to them.

This whole subject brings up a lot of interesting talking points to be debated. I know nothing will ever change it but its cool to see the different points of view.

Hey I tip my the better team won. We couldn't hit there pitching. Enough said. We had a great season.

P1,

Most everyone in this forum had their season end at some point in the year. Bottomline is they won and Poteet lost. Season over. Congrats.

Now, this topic may be interesting during the fall when things are boring. But for now most have moved to the summer. Take a week of vacation.

I came across this thread and was amazed at how people can come up with ways to put down a great program like the one at Corpus Christi Moody; Ctiger you make it seem as if these kids are lured in by Money or something similar; I think it's sour grapes myself. The bigger question is, how bad are the other programs in Corpus Christi that they cannot hold on to any talent. Coaches need to be fired at the other school's if that is the case...or maybe the kid's just want to play for a winner.

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P1-

You have kind of worn out the whole "I'm not crying foul" thing here... you are crying... get over it!


You ARE assuming that they recruit baseball players for thier Magnet program - but that these kids are really just there for baseball reasons... are you kidding? Have you ever looked into their school and seen the kids that are coming out of that program - hardly a ton of big time baseball players... two... if they are "recruiting" so well, why is Calallen so good in baseball as well? Do you have any idea how many times each of those teams have been in State Championship games in Austin, let alone the final four down there? If Moody recruits so well should thier neighboring school be just as good, if not better?

Could it be because they have good coaching?? Could it be because the kids have a passion for the game? Just because your typical DFW kid has played in a gillion "world series" since age of 7, because parent cut a check to somewhere doesn't actually mean your kid is good - you were just suckered in..

Also, do you realize that you can choose your son's school in Dallas and Ft Worth because of courses as well - and Magnet Programs? Paschal/Dunbar... maybe we should look in to their baseball program and Dunbar's basketball program...

How many kids that go to Moody do you think actually have enough money to take all the lessons and play travel ball like your typical DFW kid does?

You know how many parents/kids on here have MOVED schools just to play baseball - literally moved so kid could play at a new schol because coach "had a grudge" againt their son??? My Cousin (back when Southlake was 3A) was locker partners in Katy Texas with a kid down there (can't remember his name) and SL called, got his mom a librarian job in school so he could move up and be RB for the Dragons.. and he was and he was an All State player.. happens every school, every city...

I mean seriously, how many of you have ever seen a D-1 or big time JUCO type kid move because coach was being "unfair" to them?? Isn't it funny how it always happens to the player who is just an average to below average guy that is the one being "mistreated" that moves...

Same type of parent that "cries" when team doesn't WIN... can't be because other team was better - for heaven's sake no! They were cheating!!!

Had Poteet won state, this thread wouldn't even be here...

Congrats to Poteet and Moody...

P1, You know how many 4A teams there are in Texas, how hard it is just to make it to state, let alone win it?? Maybe we should just tip our hat to their coach and program...

didn't yall have a LHP "move in" this year, who is a senior and started season so far 2-0 on the bump for yall?

Crude.. I mean dude... yeah, i get that.. but was brought up again... just putting my two cents in to P1... curious if P1's kid is still playing the game...

Diablo
That guy isn't at Poteet any more his kid left before last year. And no we don't have a move in this year. That senior LHP has always been at Poteet.
Regards
TB

My bad.. the move in is over at your neighbors place.. Mesquite High...Skeeters??