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My son is a 2015 aiming for an academic D3 school and that should be a good fit.  That said, we've had a lot of camp invites via email and not much else - so no real interest at this point.  We are very aware that our son may not be playing college baseball, but are still giving it a shot.

 

We have 2 questions about folks representing colleges:

 

1. This evening we received a call from someone calling "on behalf of" a low D1 school inviting my son to attend one of their camps.  This is our first phone call - does this still fall into the same category as the emailed camp invites or does it indicate a smidgeon of interest?  Is it normal for someone other than a coach to call kids about camps?  How do we know if this person really is associated with the school?

 

2. A while back we received a camp invite where several schools we were interested in would be "represented".  We figure that means scouts for the schools would attend but not the coaches themselves.  We emailed the coaches to see if their presence at the camp was legitimate before paying for the camp, but received no responses.  How do we find out if someone says he's a scout for a certain school really is a scout for that school?

 

Thanks!

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My son never encountered a college scout. I've never heard of college scouts. I suppose an alumnus of the program could be a scout. But would that be genuine interest? He encountered head coaches and assistant coaches in charge of recruiting. There are too many reputable showcases and camps to bother with questionable ones.

gettin'there,

 

Welcome.  Good questions to start asking. 

 

1) I doubt that was a coach calling last night.  College coaches can't start calling high school juniors until July 1 between their junior and senior year (page 22).  http://www.ncaapublications.co...ctdownloads/CBSA.pdf

 

2) Coaches would represent a college.  Scouts would represent a professional baseball team or a scouting organization.  It sounds like a showcase event, but I'd have to know more.  I'd like to suggest you do a search on this site with the particulars to determine if someone has previously posted the same question.

 

My two cents.....your 2015 son is focused on D3 schools.  In general, the D3 recruiting timetable doesn't start up until after the college season is over in the 2014 spring.   There are a couple different approaches that I'm aware of.  1) Go to a national showcase such as HeadFirst, Stanford, PG Academic.  If they are sincerely interested then go to a schools specific recruiting camp after they've seen you at one of the larger showcases noted above.   Decide to move forward or not.  2) If the D3 is local try to begin a dialogue with the coach by sharing your travel or Legion schedule for the summer.  If they are sincerely interested, then attend one of their recruiting camps.  Decide to move forward or not.   It is important to remember that D3 programs don't have the recruiting budget of D1/D2 schools so their ability to travel to see your son is usually limited.  You may have to go to them.

 

Good luck!

Thank you!

 

1. Gentleman on the phone was very clear that he was not the coach, but calling "on behalf" of the coach at XXX university to invite son to winter camp.  It sounds like this goes into the pile with emailed invites!  

 

Thanks for the reminder about when coaches can make phone calls, and good to know we still have time to see if there's interest from D3!

 

2. Son didn't attend the one camp that sounded fishy but he had attended one earlier that may not have helped with anything other than the experience.  

 

“Thank you all for coming out to the combine.  I am sorry for the delay in the scouting reports..”  “I will share it with colleges." 

 

There was one D2 coach at the event who signed a senior on the spot, as well as the gentleman who billed himself as a college scout and "represented" a number of schools, such as UVA and VA Tech.

 

We will know in the future to only attend events with coaches or events that are very well known as being reputable!

 

Thank you!!

Last edited by gettin'there
Originally Posted by gettin'there:

... the gentleman who billed himself as a college scout and "represented" a number of schools, such as UVA and VA Tech.

I have it on excellent authority that you can eliminate Virginia Tech from the list of schools that you heard he "represented." My source's text message response to my inquiry read, "Definitely not. Illegal and false."

 

It's always been my understanding that the NCAA restricts DI baseball recruiting to its coaches. No more than 3 can travel for that purpose. However, in any case, no non-coach should be claiming that he "represents" any college programs.

 

Just as has been suggested here earlier, colleges employ coaches as "recruiters." Professional clubs employ "scouts."

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Hi,

We had similar experience only it was after a camp.  Son received phone call saying that he had been noticed during the camp. This person was not associated with the college, but he did provide the coaches cell number and asked son to call if he was interested. 

 

It felt fishy too... but, we knew that school had been at the camp... so son called.  Yep it was legit and the coach did have interest in son. 

 

You could always contact the coach at the school and ask. Never hurts to ask and open the lines of communication, provided that it is a school your boy is interested in.

 

Good Luck!

The calls and invites are for baseball programs to make money.  That's the primary goal.  The product you get is some instruction.  I wouldn't look into these as anything more than attending a camp.  If you son wants to play D3, those are the camps I would attend.  If you want to get noticed, I recommend attending one of their tryouts.

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