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Rose's Ballot Eligibility Expires

D Dibble1,000+ posts
Rose's Ballot Eligibility Expires

NEW YORK (AP) - Pete Rose's eligibility for the baseball writers' Hall of Fame ballot expired Monday when the 2006 candidates were announced, a group that includes Cy Young Award winners Orel Hershiser and Dwight Gooden.

Albert Belle, Will Clark and Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen were among 14 first-time candidates on the 29-man ballot. Bruce Sutter is the holdover who came closest to election, falling 43 votes shy last year.

Following an investigation of his gambling, Rose agreed in August 1989 to a lifetime ban. The Hall's board of directors voted unanimously in February 2001 that anyone on the permanently ineligible list couldn't appear on the BBWAA ballot.

Rose, baseball's career hits leader, applied for reinstatement in September 1997 and met with commissioner Bud Selig in November 2002. His efforts to end his suspension appeared to falter after he admitted in his 2004 autobiography, "Pete Rose: My Prison Without Bars," that he bet on the Cincinnati Reds while managing the teams in the late 1980s.

First-year candidates include pitchers Rick Aguilera, Alex Fernandez, Doug Jones and John Wetteland and infielders Gary DiSarcina, Gary Gaetti, Gregg Jefferies, Hal Morris and Walt Weiss.

To gain election, a player must be selected on 75 percent or more of the ballots. Sutter was on 66.7 percent of the ballots last year, followed by Jim Rice (59.5), Rich Gossage (55.2) and Andre Dawson (52.3).

Gooden was the NL Rookie of the Year season in 1984 and won the Cy Young the following year after going 24-4 with a 1.53 ERA. Hershiser was the Cy Young in 1988, when he pitched a record 59 consecutive scoreless innings during the regular season, then was selected MVP of the NL championship series and the World Series.

Belle led the AL in RBIs three times and finished a .295 batting average, 381 homers and 1,239 RBIs. Clark had a .303 career average, 284 homers and 1,205 RBIs.

Guillen was AL Rookie of the Year in 1985.

Reporters who have been in the BBWAA for 10 or more consecutive years are eligible to vote, and the totals will be announced Jan. 10.

The complete ballot:

Rick Aguilera, Albert Belle, Bert Blyleven, Will Clark, Dave Concepcion, Andre Dawson, Gary DiSarcina, Alex Fernandez, Gary Gaetti, Steve Garvey, Dwight Gooden, Rich Gossage, Ozzie Guillen, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Jefferies, Tommy John, Doug Jones, Don Mattingly, Willie McGee, Hal Morris, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Alan Trammell, Walt Weiss, John Wetteland.
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piaa_umppiaa_ump5,000+ posts
Here you go....

Eligible Candidates — Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:

A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning twenty (20) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.

Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3 (A).

Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.

In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.

Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
justbaseballjustbaseball10,000+ posts
My votes would go to Hershiser, Mattingly and Dave Parker.

Sentimentally, I would like to see Davey Concepcion, but I doubt he has much of a chance. He was a key and overlooked member of the Big Red Machine. Five gold gloves, two silver sluggers, 1982 all star MVP and hit .280-.306 in the prime of his career...very good for a SS in his era. On baseball-reference.com, he scores a 106.5 on their HOF monitor with a "likely HOFer" getting a score of 100. His career batting numbers compare favorably with Bobby Wallace, Pee Wee Reese and Luis Aparicio, all HOFers.

I can wish anyways. Wink
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W windmill100+ posts
So if I understand P-Ump, all a guy has to have done is play for 10 years, and not played for the last 5 years and he is "eligible". Therefore, the guys that AK mentions, and a host of others, are "eligible" -- the Hall publishes the list of players that have met the criteria foreligibility. Subjectivity or "quality" of his career, is not decided upon until the voters vote; the voters are merely made aware of who they can vote for.

I know that a guy stays on the ballot for X number of years, as long as he recives a minimum number of votes each year. Rest easy AK, all of "your guys" will be off the ballot next year, since they won't receive the minimum this year.

And a corollary to deldad's question: Michael Irvin is eligible this year for the Pro Football HoF!!! Hmmmm ... maybe the voters will vote for his "friend" instead! Big Grin
S 2seamer100+ posts
It's interesting to look up these guy's career stats and trends. I'd seen all of these guys play, but I guess my memory was a bit cloudy as to how good they really were.

Dawson...the Hawk's knees probably wrecked what could have been a HOF career.

Gooden... was dominant for a few years, but couldn't stay away from cocaine. Wouldn't get my vote.

Hershiser...funny, in my memory he was dominant. Looking at his W-L record, he was only really dominant a couple three years. But his ERA shows a different story. Even years that he was .500 he had a solid ERA in the 2's. Guess my memory was better than I thought. He may eventually get in.

Goose and Lee Smith... should go in together as closers now. Goose's numbers were better than I remembered. Of course, all I can remember about him is his delivery and his fu-manchu. Wetteland had excellent numbers as a closer....was very solid for about a decade, and he left the game young. John may make it in a few years.

Mattingly...a sentimental favorite for many, but really only had maybe 4 really good years if you look them up. Not enough for the Hall.

Jack Morris...one of the most dominant pitchers of the 80's. Won 4 World Series, and broke my heart when he went 10 innings against the Braves. Jack may get in, but not this time. Maybe in a couple of years.

Dale Murphy...the ultimate nice guy, had a few very good years, but was on life support for about half of his career. Sorry, Dale.

Dave Parker...the Cobra had a pretty good career, but he will have to wait a few years to see if he gets a shot.

The rest of those guys...don't see it ever happening.

I'd like to see Goose and Lee Smith go in at the same time.Closers changed the game, and they are two of the best. Wettelund and Sutter both had similar numbers, but Sutter is a longer shot to make it, in my opinion. Wettelund had better #'s.

All the other guys on the ballot...don't see it happening. Of course, the one guy that belongs...Rose...won't get there. Yes, he gambled on baseball. Yes, he can be obnoxious, but the only # that counts is 4256.

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