So what does everyone really think?
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Well.....Ive never heard the concept but it seems to me that if your always gonna pull the ball that its not so good because teams will notice that and play the shift on you. Not to mention you'll hit weaker on piches around the outside corner. If (like you said) you can spray the ball around thats gonna be a lot better for a hitter because you will then have pretty good power to all fields as well as be able to "hit it where they aint". Thats how I see it. I dont know though Im just a kid.
not that i am an expert, but we were told that if a kid wants to play at the next level he needs to spray the ball to all fields.
Watch the major leaguers . Most of em are rotational type of hitters . Rotational hitting does not just entail pulling the ball ..that is just untrue . Do some homework .
Rotational hitting involves driving the swing through the pitch. If the pitch is outside the hitter will hit the ball the other way. Rotational hitting has more hitters hitting homers the other way than years past where they threw their hands at the ball. Don't confuse bringing the hands to the ball as being rotational or linear. It's all in the context of the converation what it means.
Maybe one of the moderators could take this discussion thread to the "Hitting" forum ... that's what it is there for.
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The first day my son went to his hitting instructor he said he teaches rotational hitting,he then went on to say,it teaches you to hit the ball to ALL FIELDS with power.
He also uses the Epstein approach.
I will say this though,he taught to setup close to the plate.Making it easier to pull more pitches.
He also uses the Epstein approach.
I will say this though,he taught to setup close to the plate.Making it easier to pull more pitches.
derogatory? sarcastic? Hiding behind religion??
Perhaps Hit It Here should Hit the bricks.
That was merely a comment to the moderators to move this post to the hitting forum. Where, perhaps, it would get a bit more discussion, possibly more than you're willing to read.
However, with your thin skinned approach thus far, I'd suggest you be very very careful in the hitting forum.
Welcome to the High School Baseball Web, pull up a chair and share some good conversation.
Perhaps Hit It Here should Hit the bricks.
That was merely a comment to the moderators to move this post to the hitting forum. Where, perhaps, it would get a bit more discussion, possibly more than you're willing to read.
However, with your thin skinned approach thus far, I'd suggest you be very very careful in the hitting forum.
Welcome to the High School Baseball Web, pull up a chair and share some good conversation.
quote:Originally posted by Hit It Here:
I have . Every website from Mike Epstien and pinkman down and everyone I have talked to talks about hitting EVERY pitch out front. Mostly at full extension front elbow up. Out front doesn't send anything the other way. The major leagers they show on the sites are just the big home run hitters. All pulling. Not everyone will be a Bonds. There theory is matching the plain of the bat to the ball. You can't do that without hitting out front.
It means in front of your body, not in front of the plate. The hands will be in front of the bellybutton on all pitches. The body just won't rotate as far before contact on outside pitches.
Getting on the plane of the pitch is simply matching the arch of your swing to the downward angle of the pitch from the mound instead of swinging level.
The mechanics of the swing put the bat on the plane of the pitch.
By the way,I sent you a pm.
I believe it was CoachB25 that posted these a while back,they are a good illustration of how this is done.
By the way,I sent you a pm.
I believe it was CoachB25 that posted these a while back,they are a good illustration of how this is done.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hit It Here:
To match the plain it would seem you need to be more than 50% thruthe swing to be coming up.QUOTE]
Hitithere, this is not necessarily the case. The average major league swing "bottoms out" about 18 inches before contact, so a hitter matches the plane of the pitch before he gets to the hitting zone. Therfore, it is very possible to be swing up to the ball and hit it deep in the zone and go opposite field.
And don't let the name rotational fool you, it's not necessarily a spinning, pull off the ball-type of swing. It simply means that the rotation of the body is the foundation of the swing, rather than the thrusting of the hands...
To match the plain it would seem you need to be more than 50% thruthe swing to be coming up.QUOTE]
Hitithere, this is not necessarily the case. The average major league swing "bottoms out" about 18 inches before contact, so a hitter matches the plane of the pitch before he gets to the hitting zone. Therfore, it is very possible to be swing up to the ball and hit it deep in the zone and go opposite field.
And don't let the name rotational fool you, it's not necessarily a spinning, pull off the ball-type of swing. It simply means that the rotation of the body is the foundation of the swing, rather than the thrusting of the hands...
HitItHere-
you are lost and confused! Rotational is not pulling a pitch... just as Linear is not hitting to opposite field...
you obviously don't need to be giving guidance, in hitting, to anyone....
show me one pro scout that doesn't like to see quality swings (which are rotational by definition) and I will show you another 30 who do - and every college coach as well.... whether they know the difference or not, the swing is productive, if the player has ability....
you are lost and confused! Rotational is not pulling a pitch... just as Linear is not hitting to opposite field...
you obviously don't need to be giving guidance, in hitting, to anyone....
show me one pro scout that doesn't like to see quality swings (which are rotational by definition) and I will show you another 30 who do - and every college coach as well.... whether they know the difference or not, the swing is productive, if the player has ability....
tfox, I made the holliday sequence at bbf
There are too many ways to rotate, that's the hard part to describe, understand, and replicate. My thought is the baseball swing is all about falling. But that's something else.
quote:Originally posted by BlueDog:
Forget trying to rotate....You'll be learning the wrong stuff....
In general, I agree.
blue-
then why are the players so successful?
define "wrong stuff." with examples... not pictures, use your words....
then why are the players so successful?
define "wrong stuff." with examples... not pictures, use your words....
blue-
i asked for you to "define wrong stuff with examples"....
don't have to "sit"... i see a number of high level swings where players have a slight rearward lean.. and back knee is bent... a little equal and opposite reaction... bottom line, don't let the players hips drift or "lunge"... block off the front side and let the kinetic link /momentum do its thing....
are you going to define "wrong stuff?"
i asked for you to "define wrong stuff with examples"....
don't have to "sit"... i see a number of high level swings where players have a slight rearward lean.. and back knee is bent... a little equal and opposite reaction... bottom line, don't let the players hips drift or "lunge"... block off the front side and let the kinetic link /momentum do its thing....
are you going to define "wrong stuff?"
blue-
and no, i am not still sitting on my back leg and swinging, because i don't play anymore...
but my players all have the nice rearward lean, for the most part... - the handful in the Majors, the 13 in minors, the 50 plus in college, and the handful in high school - and all these players started with me when in high school or younger... from launch to contact, they are pretty much identical as far as mechanics go...
Big XII didn't mind what I was teaching, as player was named 2008 Newcomer of the Year and Player of the Year... as his older brother made his debut with Texas Rangers....
Another 18 just started their freshman year in college this past August... all on scholarship... their recruiters didn't mind what they saw... surly all these coaches can't be wrong on what they "like." Or are they all brainwashed too?
How are your players doing?
and no, i am not still sitting on my back leg and swinging, because i don't play anymore...
but my players all have the nice rearward lean, for the most part... - the handful in the Majors, the 13 in minors, the 50 plus in college, and the handful in high school - and all these players started with me when in high school or younger... from launch to contact, they are pretty much identical as far as mechanics go...
Big XII didn't mind what I was teaching, as player was named 2008 Newcomer of the Year and Player of the Year... as his older brother made his debut with Texas Rangers....
Another 18 just started their freshman year in college this past August... all on scholarship... their recruiters didn't mind what they saw... surly all these coaches can't be wrong on what they "like." Or are they all brainwashed too?
How are your players doing?
