Rule

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Originally posted by Randy Downes:
Runner on 1st base-0 outs. Offensive team hit and runs with a ground ball being hit to the 2B. The 2B bobbles the ball slightly and throws wildly to 1B and the ball goes out of play on the throw. Where does the umpire place the runners.? Note: this was the first play by an infielder.

Assuming that BR and R1 had not both reached their next base at the time of the throw (a pretty valid assumption,) both get two bases from time of pitch, so now you have R2 and R3.

RD, you asked as if you knew the answer. So knowing what you do know, test for ya.

R1, 2 outs. B flares a little pop up behind 1B.
F4 tracks it down, dunks it off his glove and the ball skips toward the 1 base out of play line (fence line extended).

F4 scrambles after the ball he does a text book slide and to his knee pick up, R1 rounds, BR rounds 1st and should be dead meat at 2b. F4 scoops the ball raises to a knee set to throw as he rares back, the ball slips out and goes over and out of the field of play.

Matt13, when did the wording change from 2 from time of the throw to '2 from the time of the pitch'??
I guess I had always thought this was simply a '2 from the time of the throw' deal.

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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
Matt13, when did the wording change from 2 from time of the throw to '2 from the time of the pitch'??

Never. First play by an infielder before runners reach the next base has always been 2 from TOP, at least as long as I've been around.

what impetus caused the ball to go out of play? If F4 had control of the ball and then bobbled it out of play, I would award two bases from the release (throw) by F4.

If it just bounced off him and went out of play, it should be two bases TOP.

Use your judgement here

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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
Matt13, when did the wording change from 2 from time of the throw to '2 from the time of the pitch'??
I guess I had always thought this was simply a '2 from the time of the throw' deal.

Didn't change, coach. It was always this way.