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Alright gonna make you think for me.  Runner on first and third with one out.  Runner on first takes off pitcher throws ball to second.  Second basemen runs back as man on third lingers.  Second baseman throws the ball to 1b then ball goes back to 2b.  Second base attempts tag misses on tag third base runner breaks for home and scores.  Second baseman on second attempt tags runner for out at first.

 

I was scorekeeping and didn’t charge 2b with error on the play.  He missed the leg on the first tag attempt but I wouldn’t have called it an error typically.  Gamechanger scored it as unearned but being the pitchers dad and keeping score I feel guilty so i’m checking.  Question is earned or unearned.

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BPDad, how did the runner on third get there?  Did he reach on an error, walk, hit?  In my opinion, if the R3 got on base without an error, I would score the run as a steal of home which would be an earned run.  If he reached on an error then different story.  Also, there's no error with the runner tagged at first just like you have it.   The fielders might have been sloppy in missing a tag, etc., they still kept the runner from advancing to second and made the out. 

You prolly would get a better response if you had put this in the Statistics & Scorekeeping forum.

 

I’m not sure why GC would have called it a UER when there was no error marked. Sounds like you need to check closely what you marked, and if you still don’t figure out why, contact GC.

 

But those things aside, the ol’ 1st and 3rd play causes everyone trouble sooner or later. Maybe it will help if we forget about the runner on 3rd for the time being, and think about the play as though it were just an aborted stolen base.

 

R1 takes off for 2nd and let’s say he trips and falls down. When he realizes he’s dead meat at 2nd as the pitcher steps off and throws there, he stops and gets in a rundown. F4 takes the throw, then throws to F3. F3 throws back to F4 who attempts a tag but misses. Runner heads back to 1st, and F4 tags him on the 2nd attempt. Now we’ve got something simple, there’s a PO that goes, 1-4-3-4. IOW, the pitcher gets an assist, the 2nd baseman gets an assist, the 1st baseman gets an assist, and the 2nd baseman gets the put out, and the runner is charges with a CS.

 

Now let’s put the runner back on 3rd. Since R1 was caught stealing, the runner on 3rd can’t be credited with a SB. But, since every base has to be accounted for, he scores on an FC. Assuming he got there without the aid of an error, the run is earned.

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