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I was reading the "Who Runs the Program" thread, and I didn't want to hijack it, so I started this.

I'm a high school coach, so I quite often find threads on this forum slanted AGAINST the high school coach. Not only by parents who don't believe most of us know what we're doing (either we're English teachers looking for $$, or we're football coaches looking for players), but by summer coaches who don't believe school ball matters much at all.

Yet, I get some pretty mixed messages as to what people expect of the high school coach. So, what, to you, makes a good high school coach? What are the things that, in your opinion, the high school coach must do to meet your expectations of someone who is, as a minimum, an average or above-average coach?

I have a few myself:

Must be at every practice himself, barring emergency.
Must treat every player fairly (not EQUALLY, but each player FAIRLY).
Must not be affected by outside "voices" when he selects a team.
Must expect players to work as hard at baseball as they do at any other sport.
Must be open to any player winning a job.
Must be willing to continue to LEARN at his job, and try to become better.

I have more, but I'll turn it over to you....

So, what other requirements are there? Must the coach take an ACTIVE part in putting his player in a college program? Whether the player asks for it or not? Should the coach take an active part in the player's high school education (check on homework, grades, etc.)?

I'm interested to see if there are some paramaters for what a high school coach should and will do as part of running his program.

"Swing hard in case you hit something" Gary Ward

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Well from reading both of these post ya'll can come coach my sons team any time. The only problem is that the ones we have around here just dont do the things that are preached in these posts.. Daddy ball and politics go a long way here...that really irritates me...I could just explode sometimes and I dont know how long I can hold my tongue already this year.. I just want to see the best 9 players on the field and to try to win ball games instead of giving some up to let political players get there chance to show mommy and daddy there son on the field..to me practice is where they would have to earn there chance to play not in a district game with the game on the line...
It sounds like we'd take you too.

I think most of us just want a coach who cares about baseball, knows something about baseball, winning at baseball, and fairness. Not fairness where ever kid plays the same amount. While you are coaching baseball, baseball IS the only game in town. And start the best players, reguardless of age, class, other sports, or parent.

Like many others, I want to win, but winning isn't everything.

Take a good team and make it better, take good players and make them better. (players and people)
Let me start by saying I for one feel that my sons high school coach does a good job. Do I agree with every decision that he makes no, but heck I don't agree with every decision that my son makes. Most high school coaches try to do a good job but some just don't have the necessary tools. Let's look at a few facts:
1. How many coaches played in college or for a professional organization?
2. Coaches went to school to become teachers and coaches and not business people. They don't have the training to raise money (booster club) and deal with parents and outside influences.
3. Most coaches just missed the time when weight training started and don't fully understand what, when, and how to workout.
4. They have been burned by kids & parents and have their guard up when it comes to getting kids signed. Most don't feel that marketing a player is necessary and they could very well be correct.
5. They got into the education business because they love to work with the youth and they don't want to deal with all of the other distractions.

In closing I would like to say that some coaches are better than others but we also have some cancer physicians & transplant surgeons that are better than others but we are not throwing them under the bus.
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I just want to see the best 9 players on the field...


I know where Mnite is coming from as far as daddy ball and politics, but my 2 cents worth is that, in my opinion, you need to work on improving the skills of ALL the kids on the team. That, to me, includes getting second stringers into games too, and not just for the token ninth inning in a blowout game. I know it can be tough to pick and choose the spots for doing this, the games against weaker opponents seem like a logical choice. So maybe you only win by three runs instead of seven, but you're developing kids for when one of your studs is out. I know it can be tough given the pressure not only for wins but also for big wins (I even get it from my wife - "you should have beat that team by ten runs!!!")
well when I look at our coach and this boy plays because his dad is principal and this boy plays because he is sophmore qb of football team and this boy plays because dad is booster club president and gives out money.. and in ours it is separate, booster club gives to the coach. Then I have a problem, when the best players are not on the field..My son plays but why should the team suffer and not be at its best because the coach has to play these kids or face the music from his superiors? It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth and I guess that is why I like travel ball so much..I guess I am gonna have to start saving for this summer already.
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Mnite...but how do YOU know that he is playing a kid for one of the reasons you stated? What if he believes those kids ARE the best to play and they just HAPPEN to be the QB, or the booster club Prez's son, or whatever....

The point is, MAYBE the coach has a better idea of the talent level of his players than YOU do. Maybe he is impartial and plays who he thinks will help him WIN....the fact is, I believe MOST coaches ARE impartial, and want to win, so they tend to put the better players on the field. However, MOST PARENTS are not as objective because, so to speak, they have a horse in the race.

It's like American Idol. I'm a little bit ashamed to admit I've watched it. But it absolutely amazes me that some of these people really don't know how awful they are!! I'm an awful singer, and I KNOW IT!!! Well, sometimes (maybe more often than not), parents have a jaundiced view or their son's talent level, as well as a predjudiced view of some of the other player's talent level.

Often, it's because they are seeing their son as their son, first; not as a ball player. Second they are seeing him as he was, not as he is. Third, they are seeing the other players not as they are, but as they were. Parents will see a player as they looked and played 5 years ago in little league, and not recognize that their son, as well as the other players, have changed.

A little off topic with that, but that is something that I was addressing with this whole post....many coaches do do the things I listed, and they are objective. But because they don't see things the SAME as a parent, they are viewed as being un-objective and biased, and "football-blind" and so on and so on....
TCB1 & CoachB25

I like your idea with this thread, but I do believe it could be a double edged sword.

I read your list carefully - and I do believe it is a great list.

However -

I would like to have you specify something for me though. Are these "minimum standards" - in other words is that what you feel the AVERAGE hs coach should be like?

Or would you call him the PERFECT coach?

(I know my answer - but I really would like to hear yours)
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When I look back at my own list, I believe those are SOME of the minimums. I like to believe I do all of those things and more, and I like to believe I'm a decent coach, with much more to learn.

I guess I'm stunned because I read these posts by parents and it appears that virtually all of the high school baseball programs are being run by vile, abusive, condescending, football-luvin', bribe-takin', moronic nepotists!!

Do I not see these types of coaches in my area because there are none? Or because I am one??!!? Yikes!!
TCB1

The reason I ask is that I could not give my sons hs coach a checkmark in all of those areas, and yet I certainly did not consider him a bad coach.

I think coaching is like every other field - there is a nice bell curve with great coaches and one end, horrible coaches at the other - and the majority of them fall somewhere in betweeen.
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I just want to see the best 9 players on the field...


I know where Mnite is coming from as far as daddy ball and politics, but my 2 cents worth is that, in my opinion, you need to work on improving the skills of ALL the kids on the team. That, to me, includes getting second stringers into games too, and not just for the token ninth inning in a blowout game. I know it can be tough to pick and choose the spots for doing this, the games against weaker opponents seem like a logical choice. So maybe you only win by three runs instead of seven, but you're developing kids for when one of your studs is out. I know it can be tough given the pressure not only for wins but also for big wins (I even get it from my wife - "you should have beat that team by ten runs!!!")


IMHO one of many issues is that almost everyparent has a different perspective. A coach can not make everyone happy. To use Stylemismatch as an example (Not trying to pick on ya!!)

I can only imaging the firestorm if "second stringers are brought in and the game gets away from the team and they lose!!! Some of those wonderful booster clubs will be burning down the clubhouse.

Another issue is how many times do you watch a college or MLB game and question some of their in game moves? If they can't meet our game standards how does a HS coach.

I don't know what a list should be but I look back at my coaches from HS and college and remember the ones that helped and inspired me on and off the field.
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I have a few myself:

Must be at every practice himself, barring emergency.
Must treat every player fairly (not EQUALLY, but each player FAIRLY).
Must not be affected by outside "voices" when he selects a team.
Must expect players to work as hard at baseball as they do at any other sport.
Must be open to any player winning a job.
Must be willing to continue to LEARN at his job, and try to become better.

I have more, but I'll turn it over to you....


Good post coach just wondering what made you list work hard as they do in any other sport, and if you would expand on that. Also as a coach if u have a talented athlete not working as hard...do you take the less talented hard worker player.
Novice dad

Every year I fight the battle (against both parents and players) that baseball doesn't seem to be taken quite as seriously as some other sports....

Just the other day, one of my Sophomores came up to me and said "You know when we start Pitchers and Catchers on Monday? We'll I'm going to Indianapolis to go skiing with my family. Is that a problem?"....

While holding my temper, my first thought was: I'll bet this kid wouldn't even CONSIDER missing the first day of mandatory football workouts. Or the first day of conditioning for basketball or whatever....but because baseball is our national pastime, just about everybody has played it, it is somewhat pastoral (at the lower levels), I just don't think that the athletes and their parents take it as seriously. Not all of them, but certainly more of them.

We have kids who want to miss for spring break or long family trips and so on, yet they never schedule them during football/basketball season.

Also, I think at the lower levels, most coaches don't make baseball practice very tough (as compared to other sports), whereas football, s***er, basketball tend to be more demanding. Then they come to H.S. and are surprised when I demand a lot out of them....
Novice...to answer your second question:

I value talent AND hard work, so it really comes down to a manner of degree. If I have a college level stud, he needs to do the minimum level of work that all his teammates do. I will try to explain to him why his natural ability combined with hard work will get him even farther, but he at least has to do as much as everyone else.

On the other hand, if I have a much less taltented player who works his tail off, I'll try to find a spot for him and I'll try to find him playing time.

If they are both up for the last spot....well, I'll lean toward the more talented player as long as I don't feel he is a cancer or a complete screw-off. If he is either of those, he'll be gone and I'll take the less talented player who I know will be there for me every day.

My first year as head coach, I cut three Seniors who had started for the previous coach quite a bit the year before. Primarily because of work ethic and attitude. Caused quite a ruckus....I knew for a fact it was a good move when the three of them showed up at our first few games and heckled OUR players....
An excellent post.I would not want to face all the difficult decisions coaches make everyday.
My son started his high school baseball career with a coach in his first year at the school ,as well as first head coaching job.
Some guys just have what it takes.
The wonderful list posted here are a prerequisite however if you ever get to play for a charismatic natural born leader who knows where he's headed ,gives and gets respect and enjoys what he is doing with a commanding presence,well you just know you are truly blessed.
Yet he is not appreciated by everyone!
Tough Job !!!
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Also, I think at the lower levels, most coaches don't make baseball practice very tough (as compared to other sports), whereas football, s***er, basketball tend to be more demanding. Then they come to H.S. and are surprised when I demand a lot out of them....


Great Point! Probably because the sports are more physially demanding at those levels vs. rec ball. It very well may have to do not just with the passion of the players but the lack of coaching and sometimes playing experience of rec baseball coaches.

Also like your answer in regards to work ethic and talented players.

On most of the posts by coaches here parents are quick to say they would want you to coach at their schools. They probably would be lucky to have coaches like yourself...but I also would guess there would still be unhappy boosters or parents.

I've said it before that I would not want a coaches job, besides not being qualified, and have to deal with parents, you never make everyone happy.

But to the coaches out there who are out there for the right reasons which I think is most... THANK YOU for your hardwork, dedication and personal sacrafices!!!!!!!!!
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If you read my post u would see I said my son plays...I still think that its a dream for most high school coaches to put the best team on the field....There are a few but I havnt seen but one around here..also if a kid would have the gall to come up to you and say he was not going to practice for that excuse he wouldnt be on our high school team...I give our coach that much credit. I am my sons worst enemy because I cut him no slack on hustle or working to get the most out of his body that God gave him...I admit a little tooo hard alot of times but to have coaches that play people because of who there dad or mom is it happens every day and I guess its just another lesson in life for the kids because Life is not fair and never will be...
My son is lucky to have a great coach-my opinion. I don't envy him his job at all, though! Last year's group of parents made his life hell, of course, because of playing issues!Went to the principal, AD, District AD,etc-with complaints they couldn't back up and in some cases proved to be lies. Didn't stop them from sitting in the stands running their mouths though. It was a nightmare! Our #l pitcher's parents were in on it-his attitude sucked (pardon my language!)and he ended up starting the season suspended from baseball, eventually, quit because he wasn't "getting the respect he deserved!" He was about to be kicked off the team because of his disrespect (bucking up to coach when he got pulled, flipping off the other dugout,etc.) but quit first. This snowballed with the other senior parents-like I said a nightmare! In my opinion, Coach was well within his rights to suspend, bench, whatever his "ace" or lose all credibility with the rest of his team.
My son's freshman year, he came home from the first day of tryouts saying coach said if you can't play spring break, don't bother trying out. Of course, we had a cruise booked! My son didn't question it, he knew he wasn't going on the cruise-very disappointed but not an option in any of our minds! My daughter and I went though!
I don't know if our coach is in the minority but I have a hard time believing it! My husband was a coach and the truly bad ones in my opinion are few and far between! Kudos for all the hard work you guys do!!
To TCB1:

You ask a fair question. I have no doubt you will get a variety of answers. I want to share my opinion as well and will use CoachB25's list of "25 Reasons for Success" to make my point.

While both lists included qualities that any player or parent would want in a coach, there is one glaring ommision. Between the two lists, I counted over 500 words. 500 words related to coaching H.S. Baseball. Yet there was one word that never made it onto the lists. In my opinion it is the most important function of a coach and far and away the one that will be respected the most by the players and parents.

Teach. Teach the game of baseball. Teach the players skills they haven't acquired yet or need improvement on. Make them better baseball players. That's what you are there for. That should be your top priority. Above all else, in my opinion. Coaching the game is easy. Teaching the game is hard.

If I sent my child to piano lessons, I would expect to see results. Starting out on Lesson 1, I would expect improvement as the Lessons continued. When my child was on Lesson 10, it would be just as difficult to learn the new Lesson as it was when he was on Lesson 1. But he should be able to go back to Lesson 1 and play it with ease. Just because a player has gotten older and stronger, doesn't mean he has gotten better.

Teaching will solve a lot of other problems also. Kids who understand the game better become more interested. Intensity and discipline go up within a well taught team. The players will get along better because they are relying on one another more during games and practices. They become a more cohesive unit. That's what well coached teams do.

For some reason, teaching baseball slows to a crawl at the H.S. level. It is the most overlooked aspect of coaching for most.Most kids do not develop new skills during their H.S. careers. The kids who excel were probably already exceling and the kids who do improve their game probably practiced and improved on their own. From what i've seen, most H.S. coaches do a lot more yelling than teaching.

I like my son's H.S. coach. He demonstrates a lot of the qualities that are on CoachB25's list. But I do not expect my son to be taught very much by him during his 3 year varsity career. My son's a catcher and the coach never caught. When we talked he basically left it up to me to improve my son's catching skills.

It's actually pretty easy to spot a H.S. team that has a coach who teaches. They play sound baseball and all the players do all the little things right. They don't beat themselves and you have to play well to beat them. There aren't that many coaches like that where I live so the few teachers out there have success year after year. With or without the best talent.

I don't want to sound too harsh here because both coaches here sound like thoughtful, caring men. But I will take my "1 Reason for Success" over all the others put together.
Teach the game of baseball. Through the game of baseball teach life lessons. Discipline , dedication , sacrifice , teamwork , understanding , acceptance , work ethic , how to handle failure , how to handle success etc etc. A coach is not sucessfull just be because he can teach a game and coach it. He is not a success just because he can win a game. He is sucessfull when he can use the game as a way to teach young men about life as well. One day all of them will put down the glove and hang up the cleats. Some sooner than others but ultimately all will. The life lessons learned through the hard work and competition and the team atmosphere will last them a lifetime. Some parents will say that they dont need a coach to teach their kids life lessons they will do that. They need a coach to teach the game. I have to respectfully disagree. A coach to a kid that plays a sport is someone that they look up to and repect. Its not just dad or mom saying the same old stuff. I have a son and he plays for me. But the fact is its just still dad saying the same old stuff. But when another coach tells him the same thing he nods his head and says yes sir thank you. Then goes on to tell me that Coach Ferrell game him some good advice. The same advice that I gave him several times but he never really heard it. Yes our job is to teach the game of baseball. Inside and out. And to help these young men be the best players and team they can possibly be. But if it was all just about baseball it would not be worth all the time and effort put into it. Because after all it is just a game in the end. It is not life and death and it is not how you will define yourself as a person. And it shouldnt be any different for a coach.
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Dear Old Dad, Teaching the Game is a given. clever Actually there was teach all the way through that list.


Coach, teaching is not a given. No more so than, "Hate to lose and will do anything to avoid loss" is. Hating to lose was #1 on your list. Seems like a given to me, yet you made it #1. And every coach probably tells his players to be tough, get good grades, behave themselves and respect their parents. But don't think that your win total will go up if their technique is still bad and their knowledge in situaton baseball is still limited.

In Jack Tatum's book, he talks about Woody Hayes a lot. He said that when Coach Hayes visited his home during the recruitment period, Coach Hayes promised his mom 2 things. That he would make her son a better football player and that he would make her son a better man.

I don't see anywhere on your list the promise to make anyone a better baseball player. In my opinion, it should be #1. The things you talk about, toughness, discipline, honesty, life lessons and so on could be taught to them by the Swim team coach, the Gymnastics team coach or the Marching Band coach. They are not baseball specific traits. They are not even sports specific. They are just sound bites that are subjective and arbitrary but sound good.

Most of the things you have on your list my son gets at home on a daily basis. I spent a lot of time and money looking for a private instructor for my son's catching. I finally found the guy I was looking for. He's not the best ballplayer to ever play but he is the best teacher of baseball I have met. He is into the details. My son's game has gone way up because he is being taught everything. Every flaw gets corrected. He is putting the polish on the player. The previous instructors he had were not interested in getting very technical with him.

My son's private instructor coaches at a Community College and caught at a Div. I school. But I really don't care how good of a player he was, nor do I care what his record is as a coach. I am grateful that I found an instructor who has the gift to be able to teach.

I have coached kids from 5 years old to 18 and over men's leagues and here are my top reasons for success from a coaches standpoint based on my experience.

1.) Teach the game of baseball at all times to all players. Make notes during games of what needs to be taught or reinforced at the next practice. Never assume that the players cannot handle or understand what it is you are teaching.

2.) Impart on the players the importance of teamwork and let all players know that a player who does not play within the team concept will be spending the summer fishing. Fishing is something they can do by themselves.

3.) Put the players in situations where they will have success. Sounds easy but it takes time to get to know enough about a player to get the most out of him.

4.) As the coach, take responsibility for everything that happens out on the field. It is easier to work to fix something when you see it as your fault and not somebody elses.

5.) Make sure your players are mentally in the game. There are many things you can do to challenge them and keep them focused mentally.

6.) Make sure every player knows his role on the team. There is nothing worse than a coach who moves players based on one or two game performances. In other words, if you think Johnny is going to be your best leadoff hitter, tell him the job is his and help him at all times to be the best leadoff hitter he can be.

7.) Believe in yourself and be yourself. Know that the decisions you are making are the right ones for the team despite the critism and don't try and coach like someone else or be a "book" manager just to cover your butt.

8.) Seek out information when you need to. If your pitchers are having trouble covering 1st base on ground balls to the right side, find out how it should be done and teach it to the players. We all have a time for learning and coaches should continue to grow just like the players.

9.) When picking your team, if you can, pick players that fit your style of coaching. If you are stuck with a certain type of team, adjust your coaching philosophy to fit the players skills.

10.) Lighten things up now and then. A little fun here and there is good for everyone involved.

Players should also have Reasons for Success. Here is my list that I give to players to help them maximize their success.

1.) Think/Learn. The two go hand in hand. A player can only get so good based on his physical abilities. He will only throw so hard, run so fast or hit so well. But, if he thinks, if he studies the game, his ability to succeed has virtually no limit.

In Ty Cobb's autobiography, he reads a poem that he clipped out of a newspaper around 1910. He kept it with him until he died. It reads:

For acts are but straws on the surface,
While thoughts are the pearls that lie deep.
And the latter count more in the Official score,
That recording angels keep.

And your life is just like a ballgame,
We may cheer for the cleanup swat.
But the valuable gink,
Is the one who can think.
And who wins on the brains that he's got.

2.) Hustle. It's free. It's the one thing that can be judged by coaches equally across the spectrum of talent. And while hustling itself will not guarantee you a starting role, not hustling will guarantee you a bench warming role.

3.) Practice. Build muscle memory through repetition. What you do in the heat of the moment is dictated by what you have done over and over practicing for that moment. Of course, practicing the technique correctly is paramount.

4.) Play. Play as many games as you can during the year without getting burnt out. Experience is vital to the success of a player.

5.) Be Humble/Respectful of others. Having these traits would be welcome anywhere, but the game of baseball is especially sensitive towards braggarts and rudeness.

6.) Get a good pitch to hit. It is the single most important skill a baseball player can learn. You are only as good as the pitch you hit.

7.) Learn as many different skills as possible. The more complete ballplayer you are, the more ways a coach can use you. This includes learning multiple positions.

8.) Communicate with teammates during a game. Learning to verbally help each other out takes time. Sharing information and strategy makes the whole greater than the sum of all the parts.

9.) Be an independent thinker. By that I mean don't wait for the coach to send in the pickoff play. If you see the runner taking to big a lead, let the rest of the infield know and set up a pickoff yourself. Having independent thinkers is like having the coach on the field. Players who are like coaches on the field are valued much more by the coach than they get credit for.

10.) Work on your flexibility. It is the most neglected part of training and it is needed at all positions. Players will weight train with friends, do the speed training and conditioning during practice but a serious stretching program is virtually unheard of. Even when the coach goes through the stretching segment of practice, most players are cheating while they do it.

I would say most parents can overlook the things they disagree with if the coach is making their son a better player and their son is having success. A coach will never have all the parents happy because not all players will play but it is to his credit that he did not shortchange any of them.
Coach B25 I liked your post. It is obvious that you put your heart and soul into your job and you really care about your players. That is obvious from the many posts that I have read. It is easy to pick apart ones words and assume certain things about someone. What you left out or failed to say does not diminish what you did write or have done thats for sure. Good luck this season I hope you guys have a great one.
Coach May, thanks! We both post on this site because we love the game and want to share. Coaching baseball has enabled me to travel the world and TEACH/COACH this game. It has enabled me to stand in that line a couple of times as the State Championship Medals were handed out. It has enabled me to have relationships with young men as they have grown older. Everything I now have is because of the success I've had in this game. Of course, I enjoy sharing what has enabled me to have been so blessed. Critics? Comes with the territory.

Naturally, I took that list down because I didn't want any Coaches in my ares reading it and then realizing that I don't teach the game. crazy clapping crazy

PS. I wish our teams could play. I think we'd both have a lot of fun. good
Coach B25

Personally I would love to have my son play for a coach such as you.

I think too often folks focus in on one detail and miss everything else.

Ironic that when I read your list I say the ideal coach (whom other coaches would forever be judged against). I guess I too read "teach" where it was so obviously implied.

I sure hope your players see what a gem they have.
I know this forum is old but wanted to add my two cents. My son plays for his high school jv and is happy to be on the team. He didn't really try out because of a stress fracture in his spine (another post) and missed roughly the first eight weeks of baseball. I have gone to all the games even though son could not play not just to support team but also because I love watching baseball. I know people will start saying here goes daddy ball and thats ok because everyone has thier opinion. It's just that I've been very dissappointed that not only are alot of the coaches clueless but don't seem to care.I coach a 15-u team in the Baltimore Metro League in Maryland. I don't pretend to be the greatest coach in the world but I'm totally dedicated to my team and try to play them against the best competion we can. Many of the jv players are frustrated and come to me to complain.I tell every one of them that the coach is always right and has his reasons for doing things, and even if you don't agree with him to do what your told because he controls your playing time.I sit back and say nothing bad about the coach because it's not my place. Yesterday things changed probably because my son was involved and I reached my boiling point. My son started playing about four games ago and is doing very good (starting third baseman) and is hitting the ball well.Yesterday spent about a hour talking son out of quitting team. Never seen him so upset.Son pitches for my Metro team and is well known in our area. Fastball clocked at 81 (calvert hall camp) has very good breaking ball and working on change up.Son is freshman.He has been throwing bullpen sessions with pitching coach for a couple of weeks and is starting to look pretty good with no pain.The problem I have is how arrogant some coaches are.My son never asked to pitch. The team had walked in about three runs at last game and some of the players said that he should put my son in because he's a really good pitcher. The coach in front of the players on the bench and in front of all the parents, cheerleaders and kids from school said he couldn't put my son in because he sucks as a pitcher. He has never seen my son pitch.As a team they never even practice. There's alot of people that come to these games and to say that in front of them really pissed me off.If you think my son sucks thats fine but maybe you should watch him pitch first.When my son heard what was said he was very upset.Alot of people say baseball is just a dream and thats all.I'm here to tell you that alot of these kids do dream about going to the next level and work very hard to get there.A coach should be there to help and not hinder.I believe many of these guys are there for the money and the power trip.They act like they know the game and don't even try to learn the game.Told wife that this is a good lesson for our son in the long run. Teaches him how things are not always right, and no I said nothing to the coach.I just left the field and talked to my son.Told him I may miss some of his games because I don't want to say something that I will regret later.Also I know there are more good coaches then bad but would ask you all to remember a thought that I've always had. That is that it's not a priviledge for them to play for us but a priviledge for us to coach and teach them. Sorry post was so long I just had alot to say.

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