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Please answer a question for me - I understand that D1 Scholarships only have (at a max, depending on the school's budget) 11.7 scholarships per team.  My question is if my son is coming from out of state, does the scholarship take into account the difference in tuition?  Thanks!

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Depends on the school and their funding. Took son to a camp at an out of state college just north of our border. Heard good things about the coach, his program, the school, etc...

 

During the camp, coach addressed parents in a brief q&a session. He said he would recruit players from out of state if they were north of him because tuition was higher and the out of state rate was not always cost prohibitive to players coming south.  However, he didn't recruit out of state south (where we were coming from) as the out of state rate was cost prohibitive in comparison to the in-state rates south of him. 

 

The implication was that his scholarships only covered in-state costs.

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Originally Posted by im647f:

Yes, with my sons the offer covered the out of state tuition which is three times the in state rate. Be sure to check and see if residency can be established within the state. Some will allow your son residency after living there a year. This saves both you and the program $$$.   

While I have heard similar stories, I can also tell you from experience that some state schools will never allow you to gain residency status once a student comes in as an out of state kid. For instance my son intends on going to medical school after he graduates unless he can continue to pursue his goal of playing at the next level.

The school he is doing his undergrad at also has a medical school, which would be a good choice for him.

However it was made quite clear that even if he were to buy a home in town, have a state DL, get married, etc., etc., he would always have to pay out of state tuition because he stated with an out of state status.

I have also heard states like CA are notorious for having stringent guidelines on attaining in state status. That is of course applicable only to American citizens. If you are an illegal alien, believe it or not, they allow in state tuition rates.

While I do not want to turn this thread into a political debate, that is about an absurd thing as I can imagine.

Vector, you mentioned something that I am not aware of. 

 

"However it was made quite clear that even if he were to buy a home in town, have a state DL, get married, etc., etc., he would always have to pay out of state tuition because he stated with an out of state status."

 

So starting with OOS (out of state) status can brand you forever as OOS?  New to me but thank you for sharing that! 

 

Would you mind telling us (or me in a dialog, that is fine) what state / what university you are talking about?   That seems unusually restrictive, but I am not as familiar with grad school admission policies. 

 

And Rick (Informed Athlete) made a great point. Up here in New England, the New England Regional board has a nice program for discounting tuition in neighboring states, if the student who is "migrating" to a neighboring state U is majoring in something that is not available in his / her home state, they are eligible for a nice discount on tuition.

 

 

 

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To return to the original question:

 

Schools must take into account an out-of-state player's status in at least one area because any baseball player receiving a grant in aid must receive at least a 25% scholarship.  If tuition, fees, books, room and board are $25K for in-state students and $35K for out-of-state, the smallest scholarship an in-state student may receive is $6250 and the smallest scholarship an out-of-state student can receive is $8750.

 

 Apart from the minimum 25% threshold, the main constraining factor is the dollars in the baseball team's scholarship budget.  The bursar's office at the university is responsible for collecting the full cost of each student attending, and they deal in dollars, not percentages.  Whether a coach expresses his offer in terms of a percentage or a dollar figure or something else (where my son attends, they sometimes use the phrase "in-state grant" to describe an offer equal to the difference between in- and out-of-state rates, which is about a 30%), the coach knows the offer will be paid in actual dollars from his budget to the bursar's office.

 

So in general, a coach with a budget generally knows it's harder to make attendance affordable for out-of-state students, and this knowledge does affect who he goes after and what he offers.

 

As far as getting in-state tuition for out-of-state students, nearly every state has laws governing who can get in-state rates and under what conditions.  As Rick at Informed Athlete correctly pointed out, there are sometimes ways to get in-state rates (in addition to the reciprocal state agreements, some schools offer in-state rates for specific levels of academic merit) but those ways must be unrelated to sports or else the difference between the in- and out-of-state rates will count toward against the 11.8 scholarship limit.  A lot of people think someone can wave a magic wand and grant in-state rates to athletes, but that is not the case.  

 

Best wishes,

 

I can only speak from our experience in softball.  My daughter was recruited by one school that seemed to waive out of state for students.  Then again, one school had "in state," "in region," and "out of state."  For that school we were to be "in region" and so, had to pay a little extra.  Then, one school had us as "out of state" and so, we had to pick up the difference there.  Now, that school was not a good measure as they only had 9 total scholarships even though they were D-I. We found every option in between all of these as she was recruited.  Where she goes now, even though we are in a different state, she is considered in state and so, we are very blessed with her assistance. 

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