Hello all I've been away for some time, but have a question about scholarships. My son was not offered any money as a freshman, has anyone in the same position been offered money in their following years? On one hand I can understand that the coach would not offer as he's playing without any $ as a freshman, but wonder if he does well if there could be an offer next year? Obviously, it's a conversation he will have to have with the coach, but just looking to see what others might have experienced.
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Well, during the CWS, the announcers kept talking about David Berg, the amazing relief pitcher for UCLA who STILL was not on an athletic scholarship (soph year), but would be next year.
Also, a good friend of son's is going to play at a very good D1 program with no scholarship $$. He was told that if he achieved some very specific goals (quite attainable, IMHO) he would get X% for the following year. Hoping it happens for him.
We've seen it happen but it's not common. Even seen a player get the minimum for his Freshman year only, then after excellent performances been given minimum his Junior year and then nothing his Senior. It truly depends on the funding of the program on a year to year basis and what happens with the recruits that year. If a team loses a scholly athlete unexpectedly(late in the summer), they can offer it to a current player. That doesn't happen often though. I don't see how a coach can do more than say it's a possibility.
My advice is to treat it like gravy. You should like the meal enough that you don't really need it. But if it's offered, even after you've started eating, it's a nice addition!
Schollys for baseball are re-evaluated each year (Unless you get a guaranteed 4 year - New to baseball).
If he didn't get money the first year NCAA allows for a 1 time transfer. If he excels his first year, use that as leverage asking for money. You know the coach is going to use it.
Sports and money in college is a business - please keep that in mind.
I like the above post - treat it like gravy.
The best way to get scholly money is academic. It depends on what your son does, not what others do, Money is ALMOST ALWAYS THERE and an incoming Freshman can't take it away from you....only poor performance with school can.
I talked to the former recruiting coordinator of a top SEC baseball school. He said in his 10 years as a recruiting coordinator, not one player ever received 100% baseball money. Not even guys who wound up 1st round draft picks.
It may happen, but it is by far the exception.
To back up Bballman...
We were told by our Select club coordinator the following:
D1 - 50% is a good offer
D2 - 30% "
I have heard of Full Rides.....but never seen one. Here are some of the full rides from kids we know.
"full ride" for one was 100% tuition - wound up 50% of costs
"full ride' for another was $9,000 cause the kid got $12,000 for academics
"full ride" to the last kid was full housing....Kid got free tuition (school related) so all coach could give him was living. Didn't get meals or books....
Thanks for letting me rant..
Sorry got off topic a little - Initital posting was anyone out there didn't get money in year one however got money year 2? Does it happen?
I will say coach at sons school set money aside for kids that didn't get money freshman year.
I would shy away from defining a "good offer" in strict percentage terms. What's good will depend on each individual situation.
A high percentage is not a good offer if it comes from a school that isn't right for the player.
A low percentage might be a very good offer if it opens the doors to an outstanding school where the player otherwise could never have hoped to pass the admissions standards. Even recruited walk-on status can be good if the player really has his heart set on a particular school.
A low percentage might also be a very good offer if it's to a school that isn't fully funded for 11.7. You might get something short of the 50% suggested above and yet still be getting the largest slice of the pie of anyone on the team.
The other thing is, what's "good" will differ based on the level of play. An ACC or SEC team will typically have everyone around wishing and hoping they could get recruited. They aren't as likely to get into bidding wars for individual players. Mid-majors, on the other hand, may sometimes throw a lot of money at one guy if they think he's a stud who could anchor their recruiting class or even help persuade other recruits to sign. So the same guy may be offered 40% at one place and 90% at another, and both might well be "good offers", relative to the realities at both places.
So what is NOT a good offer? An offer to the wrong school for that player; an offer that tries to get a player to go to the wrong school by luring him with financial incentives; an offer that undervalues the player relative to his abilities and the level of the program; an offer that is coupled with a disingenuous promise of playing time that the coach never intended to fulfill.
Excellent post, Midlo Dad!