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My son goes to a small d3 school in nh. They recently had a trip to florida and had to raise about 800 to 1000 to go. But one of the kids on the team didnt have to pay a dime. The school from what i have heard paid for his trip. Now i am almost positive that this has to be some type of violations? Am i wrong? Does anyone have any insight to a matter like this
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What gave you the impression life was fair?

Some kids and their families can afford less than others. They may also live in areas where getting donations are more difficult. There are all kinds of reasons.

Our HS program's Booster club will sponsor any kid who can not afford to play. Thank God for generous people.
Eligibility Center rules:
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Actual and necessary expenses are limited to the following:
(a) Meals and lodging directly tied to competition and practice held in
preparation for such competition;
(b) Transportation (i.e., expenses to and from practice and competition,
cost of transportation from home to training/practice site at the
beginning of the season and from training/practice site to home at the
end of the season);
(c) Apparel, equipment and supplies related to participation on the team;
(d) Coaching and instruction, use of facilities and entry fees;
(e) Health/medical insurance, medical treatment and physical therapy;
and
(f) Other reasonable expenses (e.g., laundry money).

Looks like to me its is ok. But I'm just a LL coach.
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Accepts Prize Money
D1 Yes. If it is an open event, and does
not exceed actual and necessary
expenses.
D2 Yes. If it is an open event, and does not
exceed actual and necessary expenses.
D3 Yes
Rule book 2011 NCAA
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I know this doesn't address the question specifically but I've seen basically the same thing happen in recreational and travel ball too. For the most part it's not the financial ability to pay but rather the willingness of the players/parents to pay.
Showcases, camps, lessons, equipment, travel teams, travel cost and a myriad of other "things" present a shopping list that will strain the average bank account. The best way to "handle" the money aspect of our son's baseball is to evaluate our personal "return" on our own "investments" and ignore other kids/parents approach.
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I was jus curious and another thing he failed out of two schools before coming to this one. Just think its a little sketchy. He didnt go to the school the first semester when all the money was suppose to be due. He got accepted over winter break when the whole trip was booked and everyone had paid. He was just placed on the team, all the other kids had been working since september with practing scrimmages and then he just comes in makes the team starts and gets a trip paid for him. Just doesnt make sense
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I mean it is a little unfair for the other players on the team, and people who couldnt go on the trip.


Which people couldn't go? players or family. If it's covering the cost for a player, then it's likely any teammate would've been covered under a hardship. If a player was left behind because the family couldn't pay and another player was taken, that would be a problem. If you're talking cost of family members, then forget about that. Unless you'rea player, you shouldbe paying yourownway.
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Originally posted by BOF:
What gave you the impression life was fair?



I agree.

If the OP thinks that sounds unfair, let me give a HS example.
A very wealthy father wants his kid to not only make the varsity, but also to start. The kid is good for his age but will not supplant the kid at his chosen position. The father makes a donation beyond the yearly tuition, so his son starts over a senior at another position. Now the parents of the kid that was benched are upset, and suspect something is up, but have no proof. This kid is good for his age, but not as good as their son, so every time he strikes out or makes an occasional error, they are complaining to other parents and the atmosphere is getting ugly.
Anyway fast forward a year, the rich father decides that the best way to promote his son is to help build a state championship team. This was a good team to begin with, but he starts bringing in all sorts of top kids who cannot afford the school and pays their tuition for them. They of course all start, either based on skill and/or preference with their benefactors influence. Next thing you know all sorts of parents are now upset because their kids are sitting. Sure the team is winning and looks like it has potential to win a state title, but just imagine how any parent who pays a hefty tuition for their kid to attend feels? What is worse is that their kids who are very good in their own right now ride the bench while other kids(hired guns) get the glory and exposure.

I am not trying to minimize the frustration you feel or justify what the team might be doing ethics wise. I'm just saying that if things like the aforementioned go on at the HS level, rest assured all sorts of unethical things go on elsewhere.
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Originally posted by ALBASEBALL:
zomby im talking about a player being left behind and that player being able to goo


There's not enough information here to have an opinion. We know a player came on board late and was invited to go on a trip and that trip was paid for. We don't know the skill level of this kid, his financial situation, nor his academic situation. What looks like one thing on the surface could be something entirely different underneath. The only person that should be miffed is the guy left behind. But why is he left behind? Is he not as good a player? Does he have an attitude problem? Has he had issues with drinking or partying in college? Did he have his own financial situtation and not approach the coaches about it? Does his family not feel going to FL was a priority for the family budget? Does he have a medical reason for not wanting to leave the state? All good reasons for being "left behind". Way too many unknowns to form an opinion on the situation.

Let the parents of the one left behind spend their energy on resolving this. Don't be surprised if you never know the whole story. Parents aren't always entirely honest with other parents especially about family issues.
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