Scout workout ideas?

you left out a ton of information. is he a high school, juco, college junior or college senior.

MLB scouts want to know what round so they have an idea of $$$ it will take to sign. Say : Market value


How much interest is he getting from other MLB teams?

How many teams carded him, done pysch tests?

I'm sorry--new to this kind of stuff.

He is a senior in High School. He has several MLB contacting him and have carded him. In regards to pysch test, I believe just one.

This is our first workout for a scout and just looking for the do's and dont's because we are going at this blind.
They also asked if we had an advisor.

Catcher Mom,

No need to apologize.

When in doubt, have him be himself. Be honest. If they talk money, just tell them the truth..."I don't have a dollar figure in mind right now." As for the advisor..."We are looking at a few different options right now."

As for the tryout itself, relax. Play hard but don't try hard. Hustle and show them what he is like as a player and a kid.

With any players MLB scouts are gonna want to know a $$$ figure that your will sign with.

If your $$$ figure is way out of line for your talent, dont expect to be drafted.

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Originally posted by Frank Martin:

How many teams carded him, done pysch tests?

A new term for me; what does it mean to be carded?

And what are good and bad things they are looking for with the tests?

With the elimination of the draft and follow, are the scouts in a position now that they have to offer something worthwhile? How is this beneficial to player or not beneficial.
What are the rules on having an advisor and does that cost alot of money?
What is a reasonable round to go in and what kind of money is reasonable? Should I look back at last year's draft and see what round catchers went in? But that doesn't tell me how much money was offered.
My goal is to make sure we don't look stupid and unrealistic when trying to answer the questions and also don't blow an opportunity on something that may come around. We had been set on going off to college and improving the grades and the game. Hardwork and dedication always pays off right?

I sure have alot of questions---thanks for the advice---I love this site
Catcher mom

Catcher Mom,

I don't have answers to most of your questions, but I do know that advisors don't cost anything. Otherwise they would be agents. Most times they are the same guy, different hat. They are advisors to maintain NCAA elligibility for your son unless he chooses to turn pro. Now after your son is drafted... I don't know for sure. Maybe there is some unwritten compensation arrangement made for the advisor's services. Others have written a lot on HSBBW about their relationships and the book "License To Deal" brings it up, too.

You are on the right track looking at the draft history. You will also find more discussions on HSBBW about slot money.

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Originally posted by Frank Martin:
With any players MLB scouts are gonna want to know a $$$ figure that your will sign with.

If your $$$ figure is way out of line for your talent, dont expect to be drafted.

So why say a $$ figure at all? If you don't know what that figure is, say so. You don't need to know at this point.

Originally posted by Catcher Mom:
With the elimination of the draft and follow, are the scouts in a position now that they have to offer something worthwhile? How is this beneficial to player or not beneficial.
They will not offer anything at the tryout

What are the rules on having an advisor and does that cost alot of money?
An advisor is just that...an advisor. Someone who has gone through this before. If you sign a contact with an advisor, they have now become your agent. I would contact PGStaff for references on advisors / potential agents.

What is a reasonable round to go in and what kind of money is reasonable?
It depends on what the team determines your son's value to be...based on his talent, potential, signability, etc.

Should I look back at last year's draft and see what round catchers went in? But that doesn't tell me how much money was offered.
Check the archives at Baseball America.They have slot money stats.

My goal is to make sure we don't look stupid and unrealistic when trying to answer the questions and also don't blow an opportunity on something that may come around.
Then be honest. If you don't know, say you don't know. Ask them questions.

We had been set on going off to college and improving the grades and the game. Hardwork and dedication always pays off right?
Correct. That can be used as leverage.

Go to this web site

Prospect Watch http://www.prospectwatch.org

click on player information card and 2006 signings bonus


Carded means player information needed by MLB scouts in order to later draft a player. Just because you are carded does not mean you will be drafted, but you cant be drafted without that info.


MLB scouts are gonna draft players ready to go out and player pro ball this year.

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Originally posted by Frank Martin:

MLB scouts are gonna draft players ready to go out and player pro ball this year.

Thanks Frank. I thought that's what carded meant. The other, they're looking for maturity, right?

CatcherMom,

You have a PM.

I agree with Redbird. You do not have to give a dollar figure.

You do not need an advisor if you choose, if your son is projected to be a first day draft choice, you may not need to go looking, they'll find your son. It won't cost you a dime for free advice. You cannot make any written agreement with anyone to represent your son until after he SIGNS a professional contract.

Fair market value. Know what fair market value is. For example, if your son is drafted in the 25th round as a HS catcher, maybe the signining bonus is 5K fair market value (just citing an example)is that acceptable.

But you do have to be honest, for example, after a certain round your son will NOT sign. Or you could choose to say as an example) we are looking for him to be drafted in the top 10 rounds after that he will head off to school.

Carded means the teams have handed you a card to fill out info? Not having been given a card, filling out a questionaire, doesn't mean people are not interested.

Look at round money, you can get that info on Baseball America or PGcrosschecker, top 10 rounds. After that, there is not much bonus, but it does happen occassionally a pick gets more money that round dictates.

With changes teams hold more leverage over a player.
Unless you are a very top choice, going to be a take it or leave it type of thing. JMO.


For the psych tests, I think maturity is a big factor. Many teams don't take a psych test unless they plan on paying out big $$, many teams give it to all players, some don't give it at all. Some area scouts will give players the test so that it is available to everyone interested as that happened to son in HS.

Let's try to be positive when giving advice, not negative. This is a very confusing time for parents who have not been through the process or are aware of the draft.

Best of luck to your son.

This is great with all the advice. Alot of different ways to handle and view situations.
This is very nerve racking as a parent-
When would the scouts actually really offer anything or at least show their hand with their intentions?

Happy Day!!

Thanks, TPM. You are the maven.

scouts don't know what round you will go in. they make recomendations, but they want to see their guy get drafted.the organization makes that decision closer to the draft, but if your scout has a few mlb players his word stands up a little more. you may have 3 or 4 more cross checkers watching as the season goes on.to double check the first guy.
my son wasn't a blue chipper so when they asked what amount it would take to sign him? our answer was draft him. look on baseball america some 2nd rounders get 500 grand some 10 rounders make 100. if you want to play pro ball and they want you it will work out. the thing i always had in my head was the more money they give you, the more chances you get. not 100% true but it gets in your head.honesty is the best policy.

advisors work for future money, 4 or 5% of signing bonus .then nothing until after year two in the majors.
there are some very well schooled people here that will have very good answers .you came to a great place.

Here is 2006 Top 10 Rounds $$$.

http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/2006/dr_06_06_29_signingbonuses.aspx

What second rounder got 50K?

Sometimes players will sign for more in a lower round because the teams top picks didn't sign, freeing up more bonus money. Teams can pretty much do what they want, with MLB blessing of course.

Infidel,
By no means a maven, most of what I post is my perception of watching the draft for about 4-5 years.

tpm
sorry one fingered typist.