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My son has dream to play college baseball, he a junior (2014)that starts at 2nd and bat 2 hole at a 6A school and batting over 600. And having a really good year on the mound. He went to the PG for the first time last year, got a 7.5 and was top prospect and made top prospect team. This year he played in the coach Bob invitational and had some really good write ups. My question is at what point should I worry about him getting the kind offers he want? And how important is it for him to try and bring up his PG ranking?
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How involved are you with contacting college recruiters and head coaches? I would not leave it up to someone else. You (and your son) need to contact every school you guys think he may excel at and don't let up. Look at it as going out and getting a job. You have to be knocking down doors and emailing/phone calling every chance you get. He'll get noticed then...

Gifted son,

 

What is your expectation with regard to exposure?  Are you expecting to play at a couple showcases to be recruited by his dream school?  That only happens in the movies.  

 

Assuming your son is gifted as your screen name implies, it is typically going to take a lot more work & effort than playing a couple showcases.   If what you described has been your approach, I would rethink it to include more exposure to the schools that he wishes to attend.   Determine what your son is most interested in, create a profile and research the colleges that fit that profile.  Has your son contacted the coaches to see where they will be recruiting this summer?  I agree with Coach_Mills, you can only rely on yourself.  Your son needs to begin contacting (phone and email) coaches as soon as possible.  Maybe he could start with Coaches that he is familiar with, and move forward from there.   Good luck!

I guess one of the problem is he not sure where he want to go. But the summer of his sophomore year he played on a team for jr& seniors for the local jr colleges and got great reviews but wasto young. And last summer he filled in for a national rank scout team for some PG and east Cobb tournament and that was real expensive because the team was in another state. I just don't want to spend like last summer on air fare if it not worth it. He even got invitation  to area code last summer but didn't make final cut.

My kid is a 2014 that plays with some very talented kids in the summer.  I too am very anxious about his circumstances, but as he told me, "Nobody other than the elite pitchers (and possible some big time homerun hitters), are getting any real love right now.  My time will come this Summer."  I think he is right, so we have him on teams that will get exposure, going to a few key academic showcases, and keeping in touch with schools that show interest.  Not sure there is much else you can do other than have him keep working hard to get better everyday.

Gifted son,

 

Does he have any idea where he wants to go?  If you're not up for air fare $$ and the like (who is!) then you may want to focus on local & regiional showcases that hopefully won't break the bank.  There is a separate showcase and state forum on this site that may have what you are looking for. 

 

In terms of helping you find what your son wants that is a different matter.   It is awfully hard to help someone who doesn't know what they want. You may want to sit down with him to discuss it to get a sense of direction.   Most everybody goes through this, so don't feel like you are the first.  I'm going through it with my youngest son right now.  If you can give the message board some hints (baseball level, academic majors, region of the country) I know we can help.  Good luck!

PG is a pretty good judge at rating players for future potential.  At your son's age, it pretty much wouldn't change.

 

Since your son hits and pitches what was the ranking for? Which position.

 

My suggestion would be to begin at the lower to mid tier level of D1, or higher tier D2. If his grades are good, then consider D3.

 

Most importantly, what does your son want to do AFTER he graduates?  Having an educational plan often helps to narrow down choices.

I guess I am a little anxious but I had a nice conversation with his coach on what he need to do this year. He assure me with the type of year he having this year not to worry and that he has been notify by several coach about him. He has increase his fast ball tremendously and the movement and his hitting and fielding is great. I figure his coach knows best since one was a major league pitcher and other was a college coach.

Gifted son,

 

With all due respect to your sons coaches, you only have one shot at this.  I think it is great they want to help you, but I also think you and your son need to help yourselves.  As a suggestion, make a list of programs you want to contact.  Go over the list with your son's coaches.  This will do two things.  First, it will tell you whom they've contacted or who contacted them (thereby making you feel less anxious) and tell you whom you can pursue on your own.   Your chances of finding a fit go up by contacting more schools.  Nobody is going to work harder for you....than you.  Good luck!

I can tell you first hand that Fenway's advice is right on target. As far as the PG rating number, don't lose any sleep over it. I know plenty of players who got 7-8 and are doing just fine in college. I know you want a 9, but the most significant numbers are the velocity and 60yd because they are legitimate.......ok maybe that 6.2 a few years back was suspect. However, pull a college roster and look the names up on the PG search, you'll be amazed how many college players never did a PG evaluation.

One last piece of advice.  High School baseball results are much less meaningful to the process than your HS coach will lead you to believe.  College coaches look down on HS coaches except from the "factory" programs.  Try to downplay the HS stuff and focus on the summer.  For 90% of recruits the key time to be seen is from July 1 to September 30 of his rising senior year.  Relax, slow down, and send out as many letters to programs as you possibly can manage.  Have some video tape ready.  Make sure you have exposure for the summer.  There are inexpensive ways to get that exposure all over the country.  There are expensive ways too, so there is no getting around the fact that spending a little more money can often get you many more opportunities.  Its a sad fact, but its true.

Hey Fenway, midlo, lefty,

I have read about contacting coaches, but for him that has mostly only got him on the mailing list.  I plan to have son contact coaches prior to events we know they are attending, but why would they care about some email or contact if they have never seen the player play?  The current schools that are showing legitimate interest in son have seen him play at least a little at Stanford camp or on Summer team.  He has even emailed coaches of schools he had interest in prior to a Fall event in Florida (where they were present), but very few coaches showed up at his team's game unless one of our stud pitchers was on the mound.  I expect that will change this Summer, but we will see.  

 

Guys you are selling your son, so when he sends information he should send a link to any videos you have posted on Youtube, a profile sheet that looks like something below, and his schedule. You are indicating to the coaches that you are interested in their program. Whether they become interested is up to them. All you have done is exposed him and got them in "their funnel" to use a sales term. Make it easy for them to verify your information through referenceable sources. My son had three pro scout references, a college pitching coach and two travel teams. These kind of things get the interest of a coach. Make them want to find out more!

 

The profile sheet should look something like, my formatting got messed up but you get the point.

 

Name - City

 

I. PERSONAL INFORMATION

 

Name contact information, phone email

 

 

Graduation Date: June 20xx

Parents contact information

 

II. ACADEMIC INFORMATION

 

High School:   

Address:  

 

Phone: 

 

Guidance Counselor: Mrs.xxx

Phone xxxxx

NCAA Clearinghouse number: xxx

SAT Score: xxx

ACT Score:  xxx

High School Core GPA: xxx un-weighted, xxx weighted

Class Rank xx out of xxxx

Anticipated College Major: xxxx

III. BASEBALL INFORMATION

 

Height: xx Weight xx lbs

Bats - x  Throws - x

Primary Position:  Pitcher

Current Velocity: xx MPH (Stalker)

Secondary Position: OF / 1st 

60 yd:xxx secs

 

High School Baseball Honors Received

Was Varsity team’s number 2 pitcher, behind a Senior. Lead team in BA and OPS while hitting in the 4 spot, starting LF when not pitching. Lead team in OF putouts. bla bla bla 

 

Other High School Sports Played: Whatever 

 

 

 

Professional scouts & baseball professionals

 

High School Coach: Name, phone, email, address

 

Summer Team: Same 

 

Scouts

Organization: xxx

Mbl Phone xxxx

 

Name 

Organization: xxx

Mbl Phone: xxx

 

Name

Organization: College Pitching Coach

Mbl Phone:xxx

 

Name

Organization: xxxx

Mbl Phone:  xxxxx

 

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BOF has it right. If you're going to contact coaches provide information that creates interest. My son contacted coaches to find out what showcases they planned to attend. He provided the kind of info BOF suggested. He also made a statement on why he wanted to attend the college and be part of the program. Then he contacted them again before the event to remind them he would be there. No contact doesn't help. Making contact may help.

I see you went to Stanford Camp so you know something about how this works.  Your son was a rising junior so that was a little early- most of the guys were scouting the rising seniors when your son was there.  Thats OK- its a start.  Tournament games are tough venues to scout, thats why showcases have risen in stature.  Its just hard for coaches to get around to see everyone at the big tournaments.  You have to keep at it.  Take nothing personally.  Part of this is a numbers game.  The real action is late in the summer.  Its mid season now for every college coach.  They are working day and night, for no money, its cold, the umpires are horrible, the bus rides are interminable, the kids are making errors, their family's feel neglected, and their closer sprained his ankle fooling around after practice.  You know what I mean.  Give it time.  Spread your son's schedule and information around.  Get into some well attended showcase events, and let the chips fall where they may this summer.  Worrying makes it worse.  Of course all that's easy for me to say.... the process is in my rearview mirror.  Trust me- it works out if you do what every one here has told you to do.

Originally Posted by Aleebaba:

Hey Fenway, midlo, lefty,

I have read about contacting coaches, but for him that has mostly only got him on the mailing list.  I plan to have son contact coaches prior to events we know they are attending, but why would they care about some email or contact if they have never seen the player play?  The current schools that are showing legitimate interest in son have seen him play at least a little at Stanford camp or on Summer team. 

I think emailing them is important because they can't be at every game at every event, esp when multiple fields are used. Coaches make a schedule of games (and players) to go see, and why not try to make a pitch for them to come see your son? In our son's case, I am positive that his emailing coaches ahead of time worked. Son went to the AZ Fall Classics and I sat in the stands at outlying fields near several coaches to whom son had emailed his schedule, and to my knowledge, had never seen him play. (I know they were there to see him because they asked his coach about him before and during the game). As I sat in the stands at Stanford camp last summer (after jr year), I saw coaches from 8 (including several head coaches!) of his top target schools come in and take a seat as the game was about to start, and again, several of them had never seen him play before. We had a D1 college head coach fly across the country to watch a couple of boys on the h.s. team play last spring and he had only communicated with the boys via email, talked to the head coach, and, again, had never seen them play.

My experience was that like was stated earlier, the pitchers and power guys take up most of the early attention. Have seen three recruting classes come into sons school, and the majority of the commitments are later on, with the top guys coming in first. The schools see how much pitching is going to cost, and work from there by need. Look at what each school may need in the future,and where son may fit into that. also look at past commits and you will get an idea of how they work. Good luck

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