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by t2: I was wondering if there are any showcases for camps for 11 year olds that will start to prepare me and get me looks by college coaches?
get some good instruction & play with/against the best competition you can find and things will sort out as time goes on Smile

welcome to the board t2, Cal folks are sometimes grouchy ..
too much sun and lack of snow, ice, slush & sub zero temps I guess Roll Eyes
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Contrary to popular belief showcases do not prepare you for college. Showcases are simply a staging area that allows coaches and scouts to view those players in attendance. If you understand what college coaches and professional scouts are looking for you should know that an 11 year old has nothing to offer. Someday you might ---- but not today.
There are many things a young pre-teen player can do to prepare himself for college but showcasing at 11 years of age is not one of them. Academics would be the first thing a prospective high school (wanting to go to college) should focus on. Prepare yourself to cope with college prep courses by focusing on study habits at an early age. Time management also weighs heavily in being able to juggle high school academics, social activities and athletics so learn what time management is and develop good time management habits. A good attitude and a good work ethic also contribute to a successful high school and/or college experience and trust me it’s never too early to practice those things. Being able to look at yourself and make adjustments today will make you a better college player in the later years. The way you interact with your parents/teachers at this stage of your life is just a sampling of the way you will interact with your coaches. If you have any difficulty understanding and respecting authority, or complying with instructions, you need to resolve those problems immediately. A successful coach/player relationship depends heavily on the player’s ability to listen, learn, and improve. Oh, it should be understood you need to practice and play baseball to the best of your ability ---- no matter what your age.
Hope this helps.
Fungo
Fungo and Bee thanks for the advice and the heads up. As for Justbaseball I am serious is there something wrong with me wanting to play college baseball.

Fungo I currently play in a 13 year old league. I take private hitting lessons from an ex mlb player. I know that injury can end any shot of playing even at the High School level. I do core training 5 times a week along with batting practice and long toss on a daily basis with a day off every 4th day so I can rest up.

My parents have always made sure our grades come first, and that we respect the game and our elders. I was hoping that there was some sort of camps or show cases for my age. Granted I am 11 but I have seen that there are things out there for players at the age of 14 so I put it out here to see what there was.

Thanks for the input.

As for Justbaseball I hope you are not an adult because if so that was not a very mature response to a question that was real.
Thank you Holden.

TRhit academically I am an A student I am even taking math classes with the 8th graders. Grades are very good if they are not I cannot play ball. My parents say a college scholarship would be better than the major leagues because very few make it to the MLB but a free education I could make more than most high paid minor leaguers. I would love to be an orthopedic surgeon, a sports agent or an attorney if I can't play baseball.

How else do I make my game better, I have private hitting lessons, core training and I play on a 13 year old team. The only way to get better is practice and play better competition. I think as of right now I am doing both. If I play in some sort of camp or show case it would be the best of the best and then I can see how I measure up. I could be ok or I could be bad. I wont know til I get that chance.

I would love some input that will help me in my goals.
Turn2 - If you are truly 11-years old...then I am sorry. You do write awfully well for an 11-year old. (Yes, thats a compliment).

My reaction had to do with my continued distaste for adults trying to push kids along too fast. I figured you were an adult trying to pull our chains. Again, if not, I am sorry.

The others have given you good advice. Play baseball with your friends while striving to improve. Plenty of time for showcases a few years down the road. Stay focused on school as you say you have. Enjoy life as a kid. Most of us wish we still were one. Wink
ya just can't win
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by a couple attorneys: You write remarkably well for an 11-year old .... Your writing provides insight as to your age and it is not 11 imho.
hmmm? Eek Confused

perhaps, he's just NOT in a public school system and/or he's a young republican Wink

anyway, that the conclusion reached from posts containing mis-spelling, choppy sentences w/repeating "sentence subject", a few "run on sentences", extra "adverbs", several verbs in the wrong "tense", and improper punctuation.

thank goodness for secretaries w/spellcheck/grammarcheck

is a little tort reform in order??



btw, not many over the age of 16 yrs use the word "slam", & prolly -0- over 25 yrs old -
they'd use insult, repremand, dis, rebuff, etc
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For some strange reason, the previous posts don't appear as well-written now Bee> Roll Eyes

You appear to have overlooked my comment/point. I was not commenting on punctuation, grammar, or sentence structure (although I could swear it was much better before). I was commenting on nuance. Apparently this 11 year old could not tell if Holden was giving him a compliment or was being sarcastic. Getting possibly upset at a compliment does not seem like the mind of a child to me.

My intuition says 11 year olds would not be sensitive to sarcasm (not talking about 11 year old actors for example who repeat things written by adults either). I can still remember being 11. I have also had three 11 year old kids who all did well in school and I don't remember any being sensitive to sarcastic writing styles let alone having been exposed to them in a technical sense. My intuition on this one is that something does not make sense. I have had several pm's over this one as well and each one raised similar concerns. FBM initially objected and has since removed her post. Along with two lawyers who have commented, you left out the NASA Engineer and the two Moms who have raised concerns in the thread.

How do you know what age groups use the word slam btw? Was there a recent study on that topic How does one know what word an unknown 25 year old would use

Maybe we are all talking to the next Doogie Hauser
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For some strange reason, the previous posts don't appear as well-written now Bee>... How do you know what age groups use the word slam btw?
CD, I'm still in the loop (I think), my young nephews who have been "indoctrinated" by their school system stop by often to talk & lecture me their cause of the week as defined by their teacher(s)...



it's curious tho that another anonymous kid with NOT ONE SINGLE FRIEND would recently relate how he told his f#!*^% Dad to get f*&^%# because he wouldn't play catch before the hs tryout ...

that was sooo believeable he recieved a couple pages of compassionate counseling from Holden et all
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IMO, whether posted by an adult posing as a kid or the kid himself, information was requested. The short answer is that I haven't seen a showcase that would accept an application from a kid who isn't at least in high school. These organizations are looking for prospects that can be recruited in the immediate future to fill roster spots on college or pro teams. Most are aimed at rising Jr and Sr boys, not rising 6th graders. As advised, this player needs to focus on playing good baseball, find good instruction, and make good grades. Play in competitive tournaments with a decent team and wait to showcase in high school when it will mean something.

That said, I agree that the poster does not have the narrative voice of a real kid. I write books for young people and teach creative writing to adults and kids, so have read 1000s of manuscripts written by adults who are trying to write in the "voice" of a kid, and actual kids who write well enough to be in gifted programs at private schools-- republican, democrats, libertarians and uncommitted (LOL)! It is really very difficult for most adults to write convincingly in the "voice" of a kid, even when they are trying their best. I have read enough writing over the last 10 years to recognize the adult voice behind the words. Additionally, most 5th/6th graders don't surf the net looking for high school sports websites, are usually thinking about middle school rather than college admissions, and generally live in the moment with personal plans that extend to about 7-10 days rather than 6 years. They may talk about what they want to do in 5-6 years, but it's rare for one to take the initiative to find and then join a predominately adult forum, and post questions... Just my opinion.

But the bottom line is, somebody wanted information and it's nice to hand over that information and move on, despite the suspicion that they are "in costume."
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But the bottom line is, somebody wanted information and it's nice to hand over that information and move on, despite the suspicion that they are "in costume."


Fair enough.

On the other hand, these are good points as well...

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I agree that the poster does not have the narrative voice of a real kid. I write books for young people and teach creative writing to adults and kids, so have read 1000s of manuscripts written by adults who are trying to write in the "voice" of a kid, and actual kids who write well enough to be in gifted programs at private schools-- republican, democrats, libertarians and uncommitted (LOL)! It is really very difficult for most adults to write convincingly in the "voice" of a kid, even when they are trying their best. I have read enough writing over the last 10 years to recognize the adult voice behind the words. Additionally, most 5th/6th graders don't surf the net looking for high school sports websites, are usually thinking about middle school rather than college admissions, and generally live in the moment with personal plans that extend to about 7-10 days rather than 6 years. They may talk about what they want to do in 5-6 years, but it's rare for one to take the initiative to find and then join a predominately adult forum, and post questions...
gogolf18 Your kid plays with 11 year olds. I play up a level with 13 year olds. The reason I know about showcases is because one of the older kids who workout with the hitting instructor was in perfect game last year.

Holden I play on 80 ft bases. I use to play shortstop when I played down but know they moved me over to 2nd base because of the throw. I also play the outfield.

justbaseball it is fine I am use to people being mean I get it all the time because I get good grades and moved up in math. You do not have to give an apology.

bee you are right should I say dude and talk about spongebob? Maybe I should talk about the kids choice awards or the naked brothers band. Would that make you people happy. Maybe I should not comment on Rutgers basketball which I saw on sports center because that would make be out to be smart and not 11.

Some of you people here are just dumb. This forum stinks I was looking for help and now I have to read people who are rude.
Turn2,

At what level do you play up? Little League, Rec Ball, Travel Ball. Playing 11 yo travel ball in Fl is better than some middle school programs we see. So please be specific in "playing up". As far as showcasing just be patient, and if you are good they will find you when your time has come 15-17 years old IMHO. Don't get discouraged if you are really only 13, this is one of the best baseball websites around for the info you will need in upcoming years.
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For some strange reason, the previous posts don't appear as well-written now Bee>... How do you know what age groups use the word slam btw?
CD, I'm still in the loop (I think), my young nephews who have been "indoctrinated" by their school system stop by often to talk & lecture me their cause of the week as defined by their teacher(s)...

it's curious tho that another anonymous kid with NOT ONE SINGLE FRIEND would recently relate how he told his f#!*^% Dad to get f*&^%# because he wouldn't play catch before the hs tryout ...

that was sooo believeable he recieved a couple pages of compassionate counseling from Holden et all


Bee--Holden knows of that kid. He lives in Holden's home town. Smile
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Some of you people here are just dumb.


None of the people that have posted in this forum are dumb nor were they born yesterday. Bee> might be on the younger side but the rest of us have been around the block. The best I can tell you have received an intelligent response from Fungo and others. Your first reply read like Mark Twain and maybe was later touched up to dumb it down. Your last reply looks purposefully mis-written. I also doubt 11 year olds care that much about Rutgers and Don Imus. Please let it go - you have received your answer to your inane question.
gogolf I am 11 and it is a little league team for 13 year olds. I did not make the 13 year old travel team. I play on the 11 yr old travel team also. What is IMHO?

quill girl thanks for your help, but saying I am not 11 is sort of wrong. Should I be at fault for looking up the word indoctrinated?

Everyone who tried to help thanks.
Everyone else is just mean.
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But the bottom line is, somebody wanted information and it's nice to hand over that information and move on, despite the suspicion that they are "in costume."


Good quote quillgirl!

Turn2#13,..whether you are an adolescent, or an adult in costume, or a son with his parent sitting next to him, I will give you my best opinion.

At age 11 I hope in my heart that you are simply enjoying the game of baseball. Work on your skills ( there's lots and lots to learn ), learn life lessons, be late to practice for the first time and learn what it feels like to have the whole team have to run because of your tardiness, hang out with your buddies, keep up your grades, hear for the first time boo's from the stands and learn how to deal with it and know what REALLY is important, ride your bike back and forth to practice and do a few wheelies,...work hard to make All-Stars and play all day long!!!
Take in the smells of the fresh mowed field,... bring your cleats into the house all muddy and have your mom yell at ya the entire way down the hall,...learn how to tape up your bat and lace your glove, eat too many gummy worms before going up to bat and then feel the queeziness,...its all part of learning life lessons. Simply just p-l-a-y.
You are but young once, and it only lasts about the time it takes to blink.

Be a kid,...live, enjoy, play and the rest will come soon enough, I promise.
The very best of luck,...no matter how old you are. Wink
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Turn2, This is something you need to understand and then maybe you'll see where we're coming from. Most of the interplay on this site is substantive. However, from time to time, a new poster (or an old poster with a new name) comes along and tries to put one over on the rest of us. Now keep that in mind and I'll come back to it in a second.

Another thing that you should know is that it is not unheard of for a parent of a very young "superstar" to get a little ahead of himself/herself when it comes to projecting to college baseball and beyond. When that does happen, the child in question is usually in the 8-12 age range.

So now let me put the two together for you.

It would not be at all odd for one of our "jokesters" to pose as an 11-year-old and ask about showcases. As you have read from others, showcases at that age are more or less a silly concept. It is equally plausible that the over-enthusiastic parent of a perceived "superstar" would pose as the child to ask for information that he/she knows would subject him/her to ridicule if he/she posted as an adult. Finally, add to the mix the fact that your original posts were extremely well written and, hopefully, you can now see where posters like CD and me are coming from.

If I am wrong about you, I apologize.
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Should I be at fault for looking up the word indoctrinated?


Nope, you should be at fault for saying "Should I be at fault" <very formal and generally not used by most kids ages 0-35> rather than the more likely choices:

"Are you ripping on me for looking up words like indoctrinated?" or "So it's against the law to look up a word like indoctrinated?" or "Everybody's so lame! Why should I have to prove can I use words like indoctrinated." (among others)

Enough beating this dead horse. If you are a kid you should be totally flattered that we think you sound very grown up!
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I remember about 2-3 years ago a dad of a 10-year old in our local rec. league emailed me asking what type of throwing program we had our son on at that age. Ugh.

I responded with something like, 'eat lots of ice cream and throw lots of dirt clods.'

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justbaseball it is fine I am use to people being mean I get it all the time...


Never thought I was being "mean." I'd love to go back to the days of eating ice cream, playing with my neighborhood buddies down the street in the sandlot and throwing a few dirt clods at each other. If suggesting that is being mean, I offer no apology for that.

As was said, Fungo gave some solid advice whether you're 11, 13 or an adult/parent. Lets move on!
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