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Hello Scouts out there.  I have a simple question.  Will a scout overlook a subpar 60 time if a player displays plus speed HTF and bag to bag.  My son has never run a good 60 but he is very explosive in 0-30 yards.  He averages around 4.0 HTF and I have him as low as 3.7 bunting.  I have him at 3.15-3.25 for 25 yards.  Thanks in advance for you consideration and honest answers.   

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Interesting question.  It just so happens that we have decided to get more laser equipment and time kids in both the 60 and in 10 yards.

 

It has long been my belief that the most important time in baseball is 10 yards. I think if we do this witjhin a couple years MLB will be looking hard at those 10 yard times. After all, do you want the shortstop, or any other position, who runs the fastest 60 yards or the fastest 10 yards.  Of course on some cases that will be the same runner, but humans are similar to dogs and horses that race.  There are your early starters and your late comers.  Give me the early starter in baseball.

Thanks for the reply...smart idea...there is a lot of guys out there that run 6.7s that take 35 to 40 yards to get moving...they don't move efficiently in a game...they just look good on paper...we actually train using only 10s, 20s, 25 from baseball starts...anything more is just tiring and not effective for baseball movements...I wish he was a lefty...(those times are for a right handed batter)...BTW his 10 averages 1.42-1.48...best was just under 1.4 but hard to confirm by hand...would need lasers
Originally Posted by PGStaff:

Interesting question.  It just so happens that we have decided to get more laser equipment and time kids in both the 60 and in 10 yards.

 

It has long been my belief that the most important time in baseball is 10 yards. I think if we do this witjhin a couple years MLB will be looking hard at those 10 yard times. After all, do you want the shortstop, or any other position, who runs the fastest 60 yards or the fastest 10 yards.  Of course on some cases that will be the same runner, but humans are similar to dogs and horses that race.  There are your early starters and your late comers.  Give me the early starter in baseball.

PG -- Kudos to you on this. I hope it becomes more of an emphasis. 

I agree with your SS statement.

A SS is a general on the field, with fluid foot athleticism, soft hands, and has a good arm with a lightning quick release. And when you find a good one, he is irreplaceable.

He's not a long distance speedster.

 

Yes, the stopwatch simply can't be relied on, too much human involvement in hand held times.

 

We have done events with a hundred or more scouts timing the 60.  It is very unusual to get exactly the same time and sometimes from highest to lowest there can be more than a tenth difference.  That .10 in the 60 isn't actually that big a difference.  However if the same thing happened in 10 yards, that .10 is a much bigger difference.

 

5tools22,

 

When working with runners we used to time 10s and 20s similar to what you are doing.  Because the first 10 is so important and perhaps provide the most improvement, why run a bunch of 60s when you can get in 4 times the work running the 10s or even 20s.

 

Be a CAT!

Originally Posted by PGStaff:
5tools22,

 

When working with runners we used to time 10s and 20s similar to what you are doing.  Because the first 10 is so important and perhaps provide the most improvement, why run a bunch of 60s when you can get in 4 times the work running the 10s or even 20s.

 

Be a CAT!

PG- Just wondering... when you timed runners in the 10's and 20's, was the runners' starting position in the same "athletic/baseball" stance that 60s are measured? I think it was for the 40yd dash run at PG  NJ indoors.

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