Stanford All Star summer Camp

masterm219 check out the golden thread section son attended in 04 great trip and results

masterm219 - My son is a junior RHP currently at Stanford. He went to the camp after his junior season and it solidified their recruitment of him.

It generally has the reputation as one of the very best summer college camps. The Stanford coaches are there and running the camp...watching for potential recruits and watching those they've already identified as potential recruits. A fairly high number of other schools are in attendance and will coach the teams in the camps (there is instruction + games/scrimmages). Nearly all of the other schools are high-end academic schools (Ivies, Georgetown, service academies and a number of others including some D2 and D3 programs that are very well-regarded). Don't count on a college that legitimately competes for recruits (e.g. Pac-10, ACC, SEC, Rice, Vanderbilt, etc...) to be there.

It is conducted on the Stanford campus, which is beautiful. Expect temperatures in the 80's during the day, 60's at night. The players stay in the dorms.

It is a high-demand camp and so I wouldn't wait too long to reserve a spot if you plan to go.

If your son is a good student and a good baseball player...it is definitely worth it.

Good luck!

If you can get there, GO!!!!

Best money ever spent on a camp/showcase!!!

The camp opened many new doors that wouldn't have been opened for our west-coast based son. The caliber of play was pretty high last year. Be prepared to drive around to different ballfields for games..not all games are played on the campus. Bring lots of water...there's a lot of downtime during the day (SPARQ testing) and it was hot.

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...and it was hot.

Spoken by a true San Franciscan!

Seriously, mid 80's without much humidity. The sun will warm your toes, but its nothing like the South, NE or Midwest in the summertime. Very comfortable.

"The coldest winter I ever spent was summer in San Francisco," Mark Twain.

They will transport the players to the other fields. They are all relatively close by...not walking distance, but less than a few miles.

My son got his invite today. Thank you all for the input.. he's really looking forward to it!

How does one go about getting invited to this camp?

Never mind. Check Stanford site. Son a sophmore. Will wait till next year.

Thank you all. I checked the Golden Threads on Stanford. Sounds great. We have a showcase in NJ the same weekend, but this sounds like it may be better for my son. My son has already received several emails from Stanford. I am sure they are computer generated even though they have his name on them.
I hope we are not too late to sign up. My son just emailed the coach who has been emailing him asking him the best way to apply for the camp.
I really appreciate the feedback. One more thing. Although my son would love to go to Stanford, we would like him to stay a bit closer to home. Do you know if East coast schools still attend the Stanford event? Should we spend our money going to an East Coast event instead? Appreciate your feedback.

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If your son is a good student and a good baseball player...it is definitely worth it.

Thank you so much for all the generous information and your son who must be amazing! My son is a good student, but not a straight A student. He goes to a very difficult private school with a great baseball program.If you don't mind me asking what kind of student is your son? SAT's grades etc. Thanks

For average GPA and average SAT/
ACT scores at Stanford, you can check this site for the common data set (scroll down, there is a lot of information):

http://www.stanford.edu/home/statistics/#admission

94% of the entering freshman class had a GPA of 3.75 or higher (this is sophomore, junior and 1st semester senior GPA, they do not include freshman grades in the GPA). Average GPA is 4.3 (because of all the weighted AP grades that are on a 5.0 scale)

The 25th percentile of the class (bottom quarter) composite SAT score was 2000 (660/680/660). The median SAT score, I believe, is in excess of 2200. The new admissions director appears to be de-emphasizing athletics (he was admissions dean at Yale before coming to Stanford last year and has completely revamped the admissions process).

Academic admissions profiles for athletes are relaxed from those above, but I understand from others that the admissions office is tightening the admissions requirements across the board at the behest of the University president.

Bordeaux is correct.

There is, however, a fair amount of debate currently about whether the standards have become too rigid...in particular after a 1-11 football season. Its caused enough of a stir that the Provost sat down for an interview with the fans' "bootleg" website. Not sure he calmed things much, but the admissions issue is definitely a hot topic at this time.

Averages are a good place to start, but if there's a "magic number" or formula to get you in, no one seems to know it.

Thank you justbaseball and Bordeaux as usual informative and interesting. We are sending the form into today and if he gets in we will go.
I don't know about his SAT's yet but by then we will.
Does anyone know what other colleges attend?
Thank you.

Schools that are commonly there in recent past:

Ivies (any/all)
Georgetown
William and Mary
Naval Academy
Air Force Academy
West Point
UC Davis
Boston College
Trinity (TX) University
...many others. Would have to go back and look at list...seems like it was a page full of them.

My son really enjoyed it there. Sent him off solo to get the feel of what it would be like to away at college (we're from NW Indiana) He had a good camp based on the number of calls and references to the camp he received from mainly east coast schools after the camp. Had a lot of IVY school invites for visits that wouldn't have come without this camp then after all that decided to stay closer to home an attend a "better" baseball school. All in all would have to say it was definitely worth it as it gave him an opportunity to explore different schools and how they view athletics/academics.

Thank you. We are sending in the application today.
I hope that he gets in and that he has the wonderful, positive experience that you all are describing. I know he loves Stanford, but I would like him to stay a little closer to home. I would like to be able to see him play. I guess we will see. Glad to hear that East Coast schools are in attendance! Are parents allowed to be just a bit selfish in this big decision? Exciting journey!

Justbb is so right to say that the whole issue of admissions and athletics at Stanford right now is a subject of debate. Especially among more than a few agitated and possibly embarrassed-by-the-football-team alums .

I am relying in part on only a couple of sources, which was an SF Chronicle article that said the University president was "profoundly indifferent" to athletics, and some stuff I picked up at a talk I went to by the admissions dean. I just get the feeling that the priority at Stanford now is not the caliber of the football and basketball teams, but rather building a university that rivals or even exceeds the Ivy Leagues in academic standing, and also is more of an international community. I know that at our local high school, the number of admits to Stanford has gone down quite a bit--which may bode well for those of you coming from a distance.

For a camp that has a lot of the same Eastern schools in attendance and which is run by a former Stanford pitcher, do check out headfirstbaseball.com's honor roll camp. Stanford is the place to be if you want to be seen by the Stanford coaches, but for a lot of the other strong academic schools, I believe that Headfirst in many ways rivals Stanford (though it is a lot smaller in number of attendees). They also list the coaches that attend on the website, I think.

masterm219..you have every right to be a little selfish..I know I was...though I let my son make his decision on his own..and trust me it was a long few weeks as he tossed schools back and forth...one thing I did remind him of was how, as parents, we had been fortunate enough to be able to see him play virtually every game he had ever competed in...and some of the schools he was considering would only allow us 1-2 visits a year...while weighing everything from quality of competition, opportunity to play, academic major etc...I can't help but feel that our being able to see his games more often somewhat contributed in his final decision....you've put a lot of time ,effort, and money to get him to this point so there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a little selfish

[QUOTE]as parents, we had been fortunate enough to be able to see him play virtually every game he had ever competed in...and some of the schools he was considering would only allow us 1-2 visits a year...

YES!!! Exactly! Thank you.How can you go from seeing every game since he was 5 to 1 or 2 times a year!!
I think it would be really hard on all of us.
Hopefully he has those options.

masterm - This is going to sound funny coming from me...being only 15 minutes from the Stanford campus. But in reality, I wish that since our son goes to Stanford, that it was much further away...even though it would cut drastically the number of games I'd see a year.

IMO, its just a little better for all if "junior" gets away from home. Whatever choice you ultimately make, you will come to realize this I believe. I could write a book on that, but you still might not believe it. Experience will most likely teach you that. But maybe not?

To follow on justbb's comments: for about 30 games per year, my wife and I sit in Sunken Diamond and watch the son's of Bordeaux and justbb. We absolutely love and look forward to nearly every game. This has truly helped me get to enjoy the games as a fan, not a parent.
On the other hand, our son went to college in TX and has played professionally in NY, MI and FLA.
If we see him play 10-15 times per year, it is a great year. With that said, those experiences/games are the ones I remember most vividly. I do not take for granted any day he gets to play. I have become a much better fan/parent for the experience. I so much enjoy those precious times with him off the field. When he is on the field, I am able to realize he is doing what he loves.
At some point along the way, I realized this was about him and his feelings, not me and mine. I honestly believe the distance allowed me to separate being his parent and being his fan. Now I get the best of each and feel like I am better at both.

I have SUCH mixed feelings about this topic. Selfishly, I am so infinitely glad that our son is close to home. It is not just seeing games, but that he pops in every couple of weeks and we get to get a glimpse of him. His younger sisters in particular are just so excited when he comes home even for a half an hour. Also, with younger children at home, it would hard for us to EVER travel to games because the girls need us at home for all of their activities on weekends.

But overall, I think that there is so much maturing that goes on when the kids truly leave home and don't have parents around as a safety net. I can really sees pros and cons. But I would never have told him, or my girls, that they were geographically restricted in their choice of colleges. I think that this is one of their first adult decisions and it should be theirs to make. If I were to push them to go to a particular place, and they were unhappy, who would get blamed?

I also have to correct my earlier post. The article I quoted said that the president and other top levels of administration were profoundly indifferent to football, not athletics in general. In his defense, I think that he is a wonderful President and has done a tremendous amount to help Stanford, and I HAVE seen him at baseball games . It's just that, as at many other colleges, there is a lively debate about the role of athletics in the university's mission. Justbb and I agree that Stanford's excellence in athletics is one of the things that sets it apart and makes it special, but I know that they struggle with the pressures that are put on student-athletes from the outside, such as the expansion of the basketball schedule, etc....

Thank you all. This site is the best! I thank you again for your thoughts and information.
Of course, if my son is fortunate enough to get an offer from Stanford and that is where he wants to go, that would be his decision and we would support his choice. We have a son in college in Boston. So this one won't be the first to leave. But, Boston seems just right: far enough that he doesn't come home every weekend, but close enough that we could drive there in a day!
Actually none of the schools that attract our baseball son are close to home. I didn't mean to say that he needs to be in the backyard, only that Stanford is on the other side of the country and that is really, really far!
But it feels like we are still very far from making that decision, although I know that as with everything in parenting, you blink your eyes and it's happening.
We did send in our deposit yesterday for the Stanford camp, based on all of the great experiences we read about on this site. I will let you know if he gets accepted.
I understand there are lots of kids who apply and just a couple hundred who get in.
Bordeux and justbaseball congratulations. We know what an accomplishment it is to have your sons at such a great school. Know that all of your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
I hope that the camp opens doors for our son, but mostly I hope he has a great adventure. He has never been to CA! It's exciting! All of it.
Last nite on our way back home from winter workout we talked about rejection. It was a good talk. We were trying to prepare ourselves for the good and the bad. I hear this year(junior year) is a roller coaster. I think we all need to stay focused on what is truly important.

Hope he gets in to the camp and that he has a wonderful time. For travel recommendations, you can check out this link as a starting point, and to provide an update to it, there is a new Four Seasons hotel about 5 miles from the campus although I haven't heard anything about it yet. A friend and fellow Stanford-athlete parent is visiting at the moment and is staying at the Marriott Residence Inn (there is a Courtyard by marriott, and a Marriott Residence Inn, right next door to each other, both on El Camino Real a few miles from campus) and she raved about it and how comfortable it is with a sitting area, etc. and has booked a room for graduation as well.....(I should have been a travel agent.....)

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2081003051/m/1751066151

Thank you. As soon as we hear I will call for reservations. Perhaps I should call you!?(LOL) How is your son doing? Does he like/love Stanford? Did he look at any other schools in the process?

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Originally posted by masterm219:
But, Boston seems just right: far enough that he doesn't come home every weekend, but close enough that we could drive there in a day!

Ah, but Stanford is just close enough that you can fly there in less than a day.

Good luck with everything. It seems like you've got a good handle on it all and a good perspective. Keep us posted on how it all transpires.

Yes, and here's a plug for Jet Blue, which as of then will be flying nonstop from JFK to either SFO or San Jose (or both, can't remember)!

Masterm, will send you a pm, but yes, my son loves Stanford.

true!

If son has received an invite to the Stanford all-star camp when do they let you know if your are in?????

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Originally posted by CaBB:
If son has received an invite to the Stanford all-star camp when do they let you know if your are in?????

This is what is listed on the website, if it helps (it's kind of vague):


Offered to players entering either their junior or senior year following the summer All Star Camp
The Stanford All Star Baseball Camp offers a unique baseball learning opportunity to high school players interested in playing Division I College Baseball. Each day, players will work on development of individual skills, learn the importance of team play and experience first-hand the Stanford success formula - hard work, self-discipline, goal-setting and commitment to excellence. Each day, each player will have defensive practice at his position, hitting or pitching stations and a competitive game. Players will receive an evaluation from the coaches following the Camp. Tuition listed below includes room and board. All Star Camp registration materials will NOT automatically be mailed to last year's participants. You must request information at this time to receive the forms. Registration is done solely through the mail. Materials for registration should go out in January 2007. The All Star Camp is filled on a first come-first served basis by position. The applicant must choose one position to apply for All Star Camp. You may play at more than one position in the Camp, but players are assigned to teams using their selected primary position. We will have a wait list at every position. Confirmation of registration or wait list will be mailed to all registrants after receipt of their forms. A full packet of information (travel forms, medical forms, daily schedule, list of coaches, etc.) will be mailed in April 2007.

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Originally posted by justbaseball:
This is going to sound funny coming from me...being only 15 minutes from the Stanford campus. But in reality, I wish that since our son goes to Stanford, that it was much further away...even though it would cut drastically the number of games I'd see a year.

Oh, I've got the perfect solution to that.....move back "home"!!! Well, preferably about 4 hrs NE of "home" would be ideal.

To add to the discussion on admissions standards; the past couple years have had a peak in graduation numbers of students continuing on to college making it a "sellers" market. This has made admission standards much stricter in this part of the world and may have somewhat made it tougher to get in Stanford as well. Fortunately for me, when my 14u son graduates those numbers will have dropped drastically so hopefully it will be a buyers market then.

CaBB,

Patience is the key. Coach Stotz does an excellent job of handling this camp and he will be in touch with you. My son received his confirmation last year on 2/10 via email, but others had already been confirmed by then so there is no magic date. It takes a lot of juggling as players are enrolled based on their position and they have to make sure to meet all NCAA requirements.

Natural, what does this mean, meeting all NCAA requirements? We got an email from Coach Stotz saying my son would be accepted as soon as he got the NCAA go ahead. We aren't sure what this means. For the camp? for my son?
Thanks!

My son went to the camp last year. I don't recall any NCAA stipulation. He was already registered with the clearinghouse...but I don't recall Stotz even mentioning the clearinghouse. Maybe he means the seniors who are attending the camp should have their preliminary records in review.

My son is a junior and registered with the clearinghouse, but not complete, obviously.
It sounded like he meant NCAA okay for the camp.
It reads" you will be admitted when NCAA gives me the go ahead"
I was wondering if anyone has gotten an acceptance yet for this year?
Do you remember when your son heard from the camp?

My son just got an email from Coach Stotz. It is the NCAA that seems to want Stanford to wait to let everyone know whether they are accepted or not. Since all of these kids are recruiting age, everyone must have the same chance to get into the camp.
So they are about a week away from getting the go-ahead to admit players to the camp.