I would just say that OPRF's Ledbetter knows how to deal with these issue's and evidently other's don't.
Why would a coach deny a player a chance to play in the biggest national event of the summer?
At OPRF we actually had this come up. Unless its the playoff's it's a no brainer for goodness sake. Our kids are playing at the highest level possible, which also allows others to get PT in the summer.
soxnole,
I agree with you. Summer ball is for giving the incoming varsity squard an opportunity to get PT to show the coach what they can do. They already know what the guys going to these tournaments can do. The coaches I know have no issues with this. It is a great opportunity.
I agree with you. Summer ball is for giving the incoming varsity squard an opportunity to get PT to show the coach what they can do. They already know what the guys going to these tournaments can do. The coaches I know have no issues with this. It is a great opportunity.
Our 17u team had to take a pass on the WWBA 18u event due to the advesarial relationship it created with the High School coach and the player. It's a shame for the player.
The players are those who are caught in the middle. Life isn't always fair and sometimes you just have to decide.
Gentlemen......
Your 'posts' today were right on target!!! Thanks for putting things in perspective!!!!
Your 'posts' today were right on target!!! Thanks for putting things in perspective!!!!
This has been said on other threads but needs to repeating. The key regarding this issue is COMUNICATION! 
The PLAYER, high school coach, travel coach, and parents have to create a dialogue, especially if it involves a pitcher, the earlier the better. Problems start creating expectation that can not be met.
The PLAYER, high school coach, travel coach, and parents have to create a dialogue, especially if it involves a pitcher, the earlier the better. Problems start creating expectation that can not be met.
Unfortunately, many players are somewhat uncomfortable asking a coach about travel opportunities. Just as unfortunately, there are way too many coaches that have trouble communicating with thier own players, let alone parents.
This is why the [hsbaseballweb] is such a great place. We can only hope that coaches,players and parents read some of these posts and wind up as better communicator's and...in so doing...coaches especially, become better leaders and administrators!
If only 1 coach, parent or player benefits from reading these posts, we have achieved at least a modicum of success.
This is why the [hsbaseballweb] is such a great place. We can only hope that coaches,players and parents read some of these posts and wind up as better communicator's and...in so doing...coaches especially, become better leaders and administrators!
If only 1 coach, parent or player benefits from reading these posts, we have achieved at least a modicum of success.
June 9-11 Southern Illinois Bullets Classic Carterville IL
June 16-18 Gregg Nischwitz Memorial Tournament Dayton Ohio
June 23-25 Austin Peay Classic Clarksville Tenn.
June 28- July 2 Memphis Tigers All-American Classic Memphis Tenn.
July 7-9 Fun In The Sun Exposure Tournament Carterville IL
July 14-16 Evansville Wolfepack Tournament Evansville In.
July 20-23 St. Louis Mustangs Tournament St. Louis MO
A few mid weeks games will be added.
June 16-18 Gregg Nischwitz Memorial Tournament Dayton Ohio
June 23-25 Austin Peay Classic Clarksville Tenn.
June 28- July 2 Memphis Tigers All-American Classic Memphis Tenn.
July 7-9 Fun In The Sun Exposure Tournament Carterville IL
July 14-16 Evansville Wolfepack Tournament Evansville In.
July 20-23 St. Louis Mustangs Tournament St. Louis MO
A few mid weeks games will be added.
SI - you have a PM
Back at ya.
SI,
You have a PM.
You have a PM.
Back at ya.
Orioles
JCA SR Thomas Zurliene INF
JCA JR Mike Kovach RHP inf
JCA SR Thomas Zurliene INF
JCA JR Mike Kovach RHP inf
This is where we will be this Summer.
June 9-10-11 Lombard Wood bat.
June 16-17-18 Chicago showcase Oakton CC
June 22-23-24-25 Norte Dame University
June 29-30-1-2 Indy Bulls/ Purdue Tourny
July 3-9 Perfect Game 17u Nationals
July 7-8-9 18s SIU Fun in Sun
July 10-16 18u Perfect Game Nationals
July 14-15-16 Illinois State 17s
What we do at season end is TBA
June 9-10-11 Lombard Wood bat.
June 16-17-18 Chicago showcase Oakton CC
June 22-23-24-25 Norte Dame University
June 29-30-1-2 Indy Bulls/ Purdue Tourny
July 3-9 Perfect Game 17u Nationals
July 7-8-9 18s SIU Fun in Sun
July 10-16 18u Perfect Game Nationals
July 14-15-16 Illinois State 17s
What we do at season end is TBA
Deuce,
You have a PM
You have a PM
Top Tier 18u Roster
Players transacted thus far:
Joe Benson OF - Joliet Catholic
Wade Kapteyn P - Illiana Christian
Connor Powers 1B/3B - Benet
Nick Kurash P - Hinsdale Central
Zach McAlister P - Chilllicothe Illinois Valley
Brian Lambert MIF - Pontiac
Dillon Roark P - Wilmington
Matt Deidrich P - Carmel
Daniel Molnar IF - Stevenson
Brad Altbach P - Glenbrook North
Cedric Redmond P - Joliet Township
Tyler Ladendorf MIF - Maine West
Chris Pack P - Benet
Pat Grady C - Sandburg
Kyle Corcoran P - Lyons Township
Brandon Meister P - Stevenson
Steve Konsler 1B - Lake Forest
Victor Valdez OF - Benet
Ramie Hamdan P - Shepard
Jake Lowe 1B - Homewood- Flossmoor
Eric Izzo 3B - Lockport
Cole Tyrell MIF - Minooka
3 more players will be announced soon
Players transacted thus far:
Joe Benson OF - Joliet Catholic
Wade Kapteyn P - Illiana Christian
Connor Powers 1B/3B - Benet
Nick Kurash P - Hinsdale Central
Zach McAlister P - Chilllicothe Illinois Valley
Brian Lambert MIF - Pontiac
Dillon Roark P - Wilmington
Matt Deidrich P - Carmel
Daniel Molnar IF - Stevenson
Brad Altbach P - Glenbrook North
Cedric Redmond P - Joliet Township
Tyler Ladendorf MIF - Maine West
Chris Pack P - Benet
Pat Grady C - Sandburg
Kyle Corcoran P - Lyons Township
Brandon Meister P - Stevenson
Steve Konsler 1B - Lake Forest
Victor Valdez OF - Benet
Ramie Hamdan P - Shepard
Jake Lowe 1B - Homewood- Flossmoor
Eric Izzo 3B - Lockport
Cole Tyrell MIF - Minooka
3 more players will be announced soon
Top Tier 18u Tentative Schedule:
6/9/2006 - Bradley University
6/16/2006 - Kenosha Classic
6/23/2006 - Missouri University Invitational
6/30/2006 - Northwestern University 18U
7/7/2006 - Fun in the Sun Tournament
7/10/2006 - Perfect Game WWBA World Series 18u
7/19/2006 - Connie Mack State Tournament
7/27/2006 - Connie Mack Regionals
8/4/2006 - Connie Mack - AABC World Series
Non Tournament Weekday games TBD
6/9/2006 - Bradley University
6/16/2006 - Kenosha Classic
6/23/2006 - Missouri University Invitational
6/30/2006 - Northwestern University 18U
7/7/2006 - Fun in the Sun Tournament
7/10/2006 - Perfect Game WWBA World Series 18u
7/19/2006 - Connie Mack State Tournament
7/27/2006 - Connie Mack Regionals
8/4/2006 - Connie Mack - AABC World Series
Non Tournament Weekday games TBD
I thought Brian Lambert and Pat Grady played for the Illinois Orioles. 
There must have been a signing bonus???? 
There must have been a signing bonus????
Looks like a player agent might be able to make a living at this.
We have Dillon Roark on our roster also and have been in constant contact so his name on their roster is news to me.
quote:Originally posted by Smokey:
I thought Brian Lambert and Pat Grady played for the Illinois Orioles.
I think they had Redmond on their roster also.
Top Tier 17u Tentative Schedule:
6/9/2005 - June Blow Out - Ho Chunk 6/16/2006 - Fathers Day Open - Indiana University
6/23/2006 - The Great Lakes Challenge - Michigan
7/1/2006 - Northwestern University Invitational
7/7/2006 - National Prep Tourney - Indiana University
7/14/2006 - Hoosier Classic - Fort Wayne, IN
7/21/2006 - Gold Glove Tournament - Battle Creek, MI
7/28/2006 - West Coast Summer Series - San Diego, CA
2nd Half of Season
(New roster with additional players):
8/25/2006 - Blue-Gray Battle of the States II - Representing Team Illinois
Osceola Stadium - Kissimmee, FL
9/22/2006 - Perfect Game WWBA World Championship Qualifier - Cedar Rapids, IA
10/13/2006 - Arizona Senior Classic - Peoria AZ
10/27/2006 - Perfect Game - WWBA World Championship Roger Dean Stadium - Jupiter, FL
6/9/2005 - June Blow Out - Ho Chunk 6/16/2006 - Fathers Day Open - Indiana University
6/23/2006 - The Great Lakes Challenge - Michigan
7/1/2006 - Northwestern University Invitational
7/7/2006 - National Prep Tourney - Indiana University
7/14/2006 - Hoosier Classic - Fort Wayne, IN
7/21/2006 - Gold Glove Tournament - Battle Creek, MI
7/28/2006 - West Coast Summer Series - San Diego, CA
2nd Half of Season
(New roster with additional players):
8/25/2006 - Blue-Gray Battle of the States II - Representing Team Illinois
Osceola Stadium - Kissimmee, FL
9/22/2006 - Perfect Game WWBA World Championship Qualifier - Cedar Rapids, IA
10/13/2006 - Arizona Senior Classic - Peoria AZ
10/27/2006 - Perfect Game - WWBA World Championship Roger Dean Stadium - Jupiter, FL
Whew!,
Sorry Smokey for the delay in responding, been on the phone seeing if I had a team left...lol
Still do by the way.
Sorry Smokey for the delay in responding, been on the phone seeing if I had a team left...lol
Still do by the way.
deucedoc.
My apology for not getting back sooner on the player you asked about.
I was traveling and did not have the info you were looking for. Hope to be able to provide more assistance next time.
My apology for not getting back sooner on the player you asked about.
I was traveling and did not have the info you were looking for. Hope to be able to provide more assistance next time.
No problem Sox,
Best wishes for a healthy and successful season to yours.
Best wishes for a healthy and successful season to yours.
Wow...some things on this site never cease to amaze me!
hey whats up? i play for the lakeside cardinals and we're loaded again. ill post our schedule later.
Thanks Rip, looking forward to see it. You were loaded last year as well with the likes of Kurnick and Maloff!
Updated 2-2
Spencer Patton RHP(South Central HS)-Parkland CC
Tyler Choate RHP/3B (Carmi HS)- SIUC
Matt Weeks RHP(West Frankfort HS)- Missouri St.
Bryant George RHP(DuQuoin HS) - SIUC
Daniel Webb RHP/OF(Heath HS KY) 08
Spencer Clifft RHP(Huntingdon HS TN) 07
Lyle Winter RHP(Pinckneyville HS) Undecided
Dillon Roark RHP/IF(Wilmington HS) Undecided
Lucas O'Rear RHP (Nashville HS IL)07
Tyler Bullock C/1B(DuQuoin HS)- Austin Peay
Daniel Palombi C/OF(Lexington Lafayette KY)07
Kory Peppenhorst C/1B(Carlyle HS)-Eastern Ill.
Tyler Isaak 2B (Carlyle HS)Undecided
JC Ducey OF (St. Joseph-Ogden HS)07
Tim Dunn SS/RHP(Carlisle Co. HS KY)Undecided
Kenton Parmley 2B/SS(Goreville HS)08
David Sanders RHP/OF(Anna-Jonesboro HS)07
Spencer Patton RHP(South Central HS)-Parkland CC
Tyler Choate RHP/3B (Carmi HS)- SIUC
Matt Weeks RHP(West Frankfort HS)- Missouri St.
Bryant George RHP(DuQuoin HS) - SIUC
Daniel Webb RHP/OF(Heath HS KY) 08
Spencer Clifft RHP(Huntingdon HS TN) 07
Lyle Winter RHP(Pinckneyville HS) Undecided
Dillon Roark RHP/IF(Wilmington HS) Undecided
Lucas O'Rear RHP (Nashville HS IL)07
Tyler Bullock C/1B(DuQuoin HS)- Austin Peay
Daniel Palombi C/OF(Lexington Lafayette KY)07
Kory Peppenhorst C/1B(Carlyle HS)-Eastern Ill.
Tyler Isaak 2B (Carlyle HS)Undecided
JC Ducey OF (St. Joseph-Ogden HS)07
Tim Dunn SS/RHP(Carlisle Co. HS KY)Undecided
Kenton Parmley 2B/SS(Goreville HS)08
David Sanders RHP/OF(Anna-Jonesboro HS)07
How about I put Dillon on my roster and we all can have him then. lol
one big roster and everyone can share.
Sure Deuce and while were at it send me a lefty and Redmond down here.
Things sure have changed since my son played years ago. With all these high tech traveling teams kids sure learn the mechanics like never before, but I wonder if this replaces getting the time in on the field.
Where as my son didn't have a personal coach for all the little things, I'm thinking playing most of the day, 6-8 hrs almost all year long made him a better player then what any coach could have done for him at half hour intervals.
Of course we lived down south in those days.
My grandson has shown interest in playing a higher level then in house. We are in a NW burb and really don't know where to turn.
Fastball (if you're out there today) I recall you saying you are NW too, could you suggest a team my son check out or his son? What team is your son playing for?
Where as my son didn't have a personal coach for all the little things, I'm thinking playing most of the day, 6-8 hrs almost all year long made him a better player then what any coach could have done for him at half hour intervals.
Of course we lived down south in those days.
My grandson has shown interest in playing a higher level then in house. We are in a NW burb and really don't know where to turn.
Fastball (if you're out there today) I recall you saying you are NW too, could you suggest a team my son check out or his son? What team is your son playing for?
Ozzie...a Sox fan....asking for my help. Hmmm...well....
Depends on the kid, and how old he is. If he is really gung-ho and is ready for it, there are several options in Full-Time Travel at any age. His town probably has such a team. McHenry Hurricanes, Northwest Travelers Top Tier and various others are out there at different age groups. At 13-14 you have Niles Renegades and many others. Check out USA Sports rankings to see who is listed. I guess if he is under 13, I'd start with the local teams. It would be helpful if I knew his age. Any one else care to comment?
My son is older and this year he will play for Barrington American Legion and will possibly hook up with another team looking for pitching when that ends or as time allows later in the summer.
Depends on the kid, and how old he is. If he is really gung-ho and is ready for it, there are several options in Full-Time Travel at any age. His town probably has such a team. McHenry Hurricanes, Northwest Travelers Top Tier and various others are out there at different age groups. At 13-14 you have Niles Renegades and many others. Check out USA Sports rankings to see who is listed. I guess if he is under 13, I'd start with the local teams. It would be helpful if I knew his age. Any one else care to comment?
My son is older and this year he will play for Barrington American Legion and will possibly hook up with another team looking for pitching when that ends or as time allows later in the summer.
Ozzie, would really have to know the age of the player as each program depends on the age and who would be doing the coaching.
I took the rankings from the PBR and cross checked them against the summer traveling teams posted in this thread. This should give you an idea where you can see this talent in one venue during the summer. Please keep us posted if any of these teams get together and play during the week.
PBR rank, position, name, high school, intended college/university
I know what you’re thinking… Smokey’s got way too much time on his hands.
Mrs. Smokey would agree. 
White Sox 18U
PBR-06 # 10 RHP/INF-Colin Bates, Naperville Central, UNC
PBR-06 # 28 LHP/OF-Danny Weston, LT, ISU
PBR-06 # 38 C/INF-Nick Morreale, Vernon Hills, Undecided
PBR-06 # 58 RHP-Jordan Backes, Mt. Zion, Quincy College
PBR-06 # 102 INF-Kenny Hanold, Waubonsie Vally, U of Evansville
PBR-06 OPTW INF/OF-Tim Harvey, Loyola Academy
PBR-06 OPTW C/OF-Matt Abraham, Naperville North
PBR-06 OPTW OF/P Max Hanner, Plainfield
PBR-06 OPTW P-Matt Zicher, Hersey
PBR-06 OPTW P-Drake Chillman, Plainfield Central
PBR-06 OPTW OF-Ryan Hopp, Hinsdale South
Kyle Williams ASU
Giovanni Cantwell UIC
Mike Kubo
Seth Hudelson
Illinois Orioles
PBR-06 # 6 OF/RHP-Billy Boockford, Glenbard West, Notre Dame
PBR-06 # 7 P-Cedric Redmond, Joliet Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 13 INF-Brian Lambert, Pontiac, Indiana*
PBR-06 # 14 INF- Devon Foreman, Hales Franciscan, Undecided
PBR-06 # 24 INF/RHP-Lennell Mcgee, Mt Carmael, Undecided
PBR-06 # 34 INF-Louie Johanns, Naperville Central, SIU
PBR-06 # 37 P-Steve Crnkovich, Downers South, UIC
PBR-06 # 41 OF-Joey Dispensa, St Rita, Undecided
PBR-06 # 46 OF-Andrew Hagins, OPRF, UIC
PBR-06 # 47 C-Tyson Blazer, Rockridge, Iowa
PBR-06 # 48 INF-David Reynolds, Carl Sandburg, NIU
PBR-06 OPTW P-Pat Kirchoffer, Wheaton North, Undecided
PBR-07 # 3 P-Seth Blair, Rock Falls
PBR-07 # 7 OF/LHP- Mike Kazmarek, Andrew
PBR-07 # 9 P-Kyle Kaminska, Naperville Central
PBR-07 # 11 INF- Scott Sexton, Oak Lawn
PBR-07 # 25 RHP/INF-Brad Allen, Geneva
PBR-07 # 58 INF-Rafael Garcia, Clemente
07, P-Nick Rice, Kenosha, Wis.
*Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Top Tier
PBR-06 # 1 OF/C-Joe Benson, Joliet Catholic, Purdue
PBR-06 # 2 RHP-Wade Kapteyn, Illiana Christian, Evansville
PBR-06 # 3 INF-Connor Powers, Benet, Undecided
PBR-06 # 4 RHP-Nick Kurash, Hinsdale Central, Miami of Ohio
PBR-06 # 5 INF/RHP-Zach McAlister, Chilllicothe Illinois Valley, Nebraska
PBR-06 # 7 RHP-Cedric Redmond, Joliet Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 13 INF-Brian Lambert, Pontiac, Indiana*
PBR-06 # 19 RHP-Chris Pack, Benet, Villanova
PBR-06 # 20 RHP-Dillon Roark, Wilmington, Undecided**
PBR-06 # 21 RHP Brad Altbach, Glenbrook North, Bradley
PBR-06 # 23 LHP-Matt Deidrich, Carmel, Northwestern
PBR-06 # 26 INF-Daniel Molnar, Stevenson, Undecided
PBR-06 # 40 LHP-Kyle Corcoran, Lyons Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 49 RHP-Brandon Meister, Stevenson, Miami of Ohio
PBR-06 # 52 INF/RHP-Pat Grady, Sandburg, Undecided
PBR-06 # 53 INF/OF-Jake Lowe, Homewood- Flossmoor, Indiana
PBR-06 # 59 INF-Steve Konsler, Lake Forest, Dayton
PBR-06 # 72 OF-Victor Valdez, Benet, St. Joseph Indiana
PBR-06 # 80 INF-Cole Tyrell, Minooka, Dayton
PBR-06 # 103 RHP-Ramie Hamdan, Shepard, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Eric Izzo, Lockport, Undecided
* Also listed on the Illinois Orioles’ roster
** Also listed on the SI Bullets’ roster
SI Bullets
PBR-06 # 20 RHP/INF-Dillon Roark, Wilmington, Undecided**
PBR-07 # 33 RHP-Lucas O'Rear, Nashville (IL)
PBR-06 # 43 INF/RHP-Tyler Choate, Carmi, SIUC
PBR-06 # 70 C/INF-Tyler Bullock, DuQuoin, Austin Peay
PBR-06 # 100 RHP-Bryant George, DuQuoin, SIUC
PBR-06 OPTW INF/RHP-Matt Weeks, West Frankfort, Missouri St.
06, RHP-Lyle Winter, Pinckneyville, Undecided
06, RHP-Spencer Patton, South Central, Parkland CC
06, C/INF-Kory Peppenhorst, Carlyle, Eastern Ill
06, INF/RHP-Tim Dunn, Carlisle Co. (KY), Undecided
06, INF-Tyler Isaak, Carlyle Co., Undecided (Ky)
07, OF-JC Ducey, St. Joseph-Ogden
07, RHP/OF-David Sanders, Anna-Jonesboro
07, RHP-Spencer Clifft, Huntingdon (TN)
07, C/OF-Daniel Palombi, Lexington Lafayette (KY)
08, RHP/OF Daniel Webb, Heath (KY)
08, INF-Kenton Parmley, Goreville
** Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Sparks
PBR-07 # 6 RHP-Brain Stroud, Providence
PBR-07 # 10 RHP-Chris Chojnowski, St Rita
PBR-07 # 19 LHP/OF-Tyler Newsome, Marist
PBR-07 # 30 LHP-T.J. McFarland, Stagg
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Nick Rossi from Stagg
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Louie Soto, St Rita
PBR-07 OPTW P-Tim Norman, Minooka
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Kyle Fraser, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Trevor Willis, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW INF/RHP-Matt Shilney, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW C-Carter Kopach, Mount Carmel
07, Mark Ahern, H/F
07, Mike Vucsko, Marist
07, Nick Pappas from Marist
07, Diego Martinez, St Rita
07, Dan Jilek, St Rita
07, Pete Balsam, St Rita
07, Dan McConlogue, Lockport
07, Rich Forkin, Lockport
07, John Pastwa, Lockport
07, Brian Bajer, Oak Forest
07, Robert Scumaci, De La Salle
07, Jon Merrick, Chicago Christian
07, Philip Wunderlich, Downers Grove South
07, Miguel Amesquita, Brother Rice
Lakeside Cardinals
PBR-06 # 55 RHP-Mike Kloss, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 # 60 INF/RHP-Tim Barry, Loyola, Undecided
PBR-06 # 104 RHP-Kyle Manson, Maine South, Illinois
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Nick Robinson, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Matt Shimonavsky, Niles West
PBR-06 OPTW P-Mort Hart, Notre Dame
06, Jake Ehrenberg- Niles West
06, Matt Wietlispach, Notre Dame
06, Mike Pagano, Notre Dame
06, Brian Cusack, Notre Dame
06, Nate Pierce, Notre Dame
06, John Creely, Notre Dame
PBR-07 #44 C-Andy Parsill, Niles West
PBR-07 # 45 OF-Charlie Capozzoli, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW P-Mike Bradley, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Joe Crespo, Notre Dame
07, Nick Pagano, Notre Dame
Bloomington/Normal Gold
PBR-06 # 22 INF-Luke Stewart, Normal West, Georgia
PBR-06 # 75 C-Zach Zwaga, Normal West, UIC
PBR-06 # 85 OF-Craig Lutes, Normal, Illinois
Scott Evans, Normal
Louie Joseph, Central Catholic
Tyler McNeely, U-High
Brett Moore, Bloomington
Jonathan Moore, Normal
Michael Reu, Bloomington
Jason Solberg, Bloomington
Zach Williams, Normal West
PBR rank, position, name, high school, intended college/university
I know what you’re thinking… Smokey’s got way too much time on his hands.
White Sox 18U
PBR-06 # 10 RHP/INF-Colin Bates, Naperville Central, UNC
PBR-06 # 28 LHP/OF-Danny Weston, LT, ISU
PBR-06 # 38 C/INF-Nick Morreale, Vernon Hills, Undecided
PBR-06 # 58 RHP-Jordan Backes, Mt. Zion, Quincy College
PBR-06 # 102 INF-Kenny Hanold, Waubonsie Vally, U of Evansville
PBR-06 OPTW INF/OF-Tim Harvey, Loyola Academy
PBR-06 OPTW C/OF-Matt Abraham, Naperville North
PBR-06 OPTW OF/P Max Hanner, Plainfield
PBR-06 OPTW P-Matt Zicher, Hersey
PBR-06 OPTW P-Drake Chillman, Plainfield Central
PBR-06 OPTW OF-Ryan Hopp, Hinsdale South
Kyle Williams ASU
Giovanni Cantwell UIC
Mike Kubo
Seth Hudelson
Illinois Orioles
PBR-06 # 6 OF/RHP-Billy Boockford, Glenbard West, Notre Dame
PBR-06 # 7 P-Cedric Redmond, Joliet Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 13 INF-Brian Lambert, Pontiac, Indiana*
PBR-06 # 14 INF- Devon Foreman, Hales Franciscan, Undecided
PBR-06 # 24 INF/RHP-Lennell Mcgee, Mt Carmael, Undecided
PBR-06 # 34 INF-Louie Johanns, Naperville Central, SIU
PBR-06 # 37 P-Steve Crnkovich, Downers South, UIC
PBR-06 # 41 OF-Joey Dispensa, St Rita, Undecided
PBR-06 # 46 OF-Andrew Hagins, OPRF, UIC
PBR-06 # 47 C-Tyson Blazer, Rockridge, Iowa
PBR-06 # 48 INF-David Reynolds, Carl Sandburg, NIU
PBR-06 OPTW P-Pat Kirchoffer, Wheaton North, Undecided
PBR-07 # 3 P-Seth Blair, Rock Falls
PBR-07 # 7 OF/LHP- Mike Kazmarek, Andrew
PBR-07 # 9 P-Kyle Kaminska, Naperville Central
PBR-07 # 11 INF- Scott Sexton, Oak Lawn
PBR-07 # 25 RHP/INF-Brad Allen, Geneva
PBR-07 # 58 INF-Rafael Garcia, Clemente
07, P-Nick Rice, Kenosha, Wis.
*Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Top Tier
PBR-06 # 1 OF/C-Joe Benson, Joliet Catholic, Purdue
PBR-06 # 2 RHP-Wade Kapteyn, Illiana Christian, Evansville
PBR-06 # 3 INF-Connor Powers, Benet, Undecided
PBR-06 # 4 RHP-Nick Kurash, Hinsdale Central, Miami of Ohio
PBR-06 # 5 INF/RHP-Zach McAlister, Chilllicothe Illinois Valley, Nebraska
PBR-06 # 7 RHP-Cedric Redmond, Joliet Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 13 INF-Brian Lambert, Pontiac, Indiana*
PBR-06 # 19 RHP-Chris Pack, Benet, Villanova
PBR-06 # 20 RHP-Dillon Roark, Wilmington, Undecided**
PBR-06 # 21 RHP Brad Altbach, Glenbrook North, Bradley
PBR-06 # 23 LHP-Matt Deidrich, Carmel, Northwestern
PBR-06 # 26 INF-Daniel Molnar, Stevenson, Undecided
PBR-06 # 40 LHP-Kyle Corcoran, Lyons Township, Undecided
PBR-06 # 49 RHP-Brandon Meister, Stevenson, Miami of Ohio
PBR-06 # 52 INF/RHP-Pat Grady, Sandburg, Undecided
PBR-06 # 53 INF/OF-Jake Lowe, Homewood- Flossmoor, Indiana
PBR-06 # 59 INF-Steve Konsler, Lake Forest, Dayton
PBR-06 # 72 OF-Victor Valdez, Benet, St. Joseph Indiana
PBR-06 # 80 INF-Cole Tyrell, Minooka, Dayton
PBR-06 # 103 RHP-Ramie Hamdan, Shepard, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Eric Izzo, Lockport, Undecided
* Also listed on the Illinois Orioles’ roster
** Also listed on the SI Bullets’ roster
SI Bullets
PBR-06 # 20 RHP/INF-Dillon Roark, Wilmington, Undecided**
PBR-07 # 33 RHP-Lucas O'Rear, Nashville (IL)
PBR-06 # 43 INF/RHP-Tyler Choate, Carmi, SIUC
PBR-06 # 70 C/INF-Tyler Bullock, DuQuoin, Austin Peay
PBR-06 # 100 RHP-Bryant George, DuQuoin, SIUC
PBR-06 OPTW INF/RHP-Matt Weeks, West Frankfort, Missouri St.
06, RHP-Lyle Winter, Pinckneyville, Undecided
06, RHP-Spencer Patton, South Central, Parkland CC
06, C/INF-Kory Peppenhorst, Carlyle, Eastern Ill
06, INF/RHP-Tim Dunn, Carlisle Co. (KY), Undecided
06, INF-Tyler Isaak, Carlyle Co., Undecided (Ky)
07, OF-JC Ducey, St. Joseph-Ogden
07, RHP/OF-David Sanders, Anna-Jonesboro
07, RHP-Spencer Clifft, Huntingdon (TN)
07, C/OF-Daniel Palombi, Lexington Lafayette (KY)
08, RHP/OF Daniel Webb, Heath (KY)
08, INF-Kenton Parmley, Goreville
** Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Sparks
PBR-07 # 6 RHP-Brain Stroud, Providence
PBR-07 # 10 RHP-Chris Chojnowski, St Rita
PBR-07 # 19 LHP/OF-Tyler Newsome, Marist
PBR-07 # 30 LHP-T.J. McFarland, Stagg
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Nick Rossi from Stagg
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Louie Soto, St Rita
PBR-07 OPTW P-Tim Norman, Minooka
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Kyle Fraser, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW OF-Trevor Willis, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW INF/RHP-Matt Shilney, Lockport
PBR-07 OPTW C-Carter Kopach, Mount Carmel
07, Mark Ahern, H/F
07, Mike Vucsko, Marist
07, Nick Pappas from Marist
07, Diego Martinez, St Rita
07, Dan Jilek, St Rita
07, Pete Balsam, St Rita
07, Dan McConlogue, Lockport
07, Rich Forkin, Lockport
07, John Pastwa, Lockport
07, Brian Bajer, Oak Forest
07, Robert Scumaci, De La Salle
07, Jon Merrick, Chicago Christian
07, Philip Wunderlich, Downers Grove South
07, Miguel Amesquita, Brother Rice
Lakeside Cardinals
PBR-06 # 55 RHP-Mike Kloss, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 # 60 INF/RHP-Tim Barry, Loyola, Undecided
PBR-06 # 104 RHP-Kyle Manson, Maine South, Illinois
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Nick Robinson, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Matt Shimonavsky, Niles West
PBR-06 OPTW P-Mort Hart, Notre Dame
06, Jake Ehrenberg- Niles West
06, Matt Wietlispach, Notre Dame
06, Mike Pagano, Notre Dame
06, Brian Cusack, Notre Dame
06, Nate Pierce, Notre Dame
06, John Creely, Notre Dame
PBR-07 #44 C-Andy Parsill, Niles West
PBR-07 # 45 OF-Charlie Capozzoli, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW P-Mike Bradley, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Joe Crespo, Notre Dame
07, Nick Pagano, Notre Dame
Bloomington/Normal Gold
PBR-06 # 22 INF-Luke Stewart, Normal West, Georgia
PBR-06 # 75 C-Zach Zwaga, Normal West, UIC
PBR-06 # 85 OF-Craig Lutes, Normal, Illinois
Scott Evans, Normal
Louie Joseph, Central Catholic
Tyler McNeely, U-High
Brett Moore, Bloomington
Jonathan Moore, Normal
Michael Reu, Bloomington
Jason Solberg, Bloomington
Zach Williams, Normal West
Nice work Smokey!
Smokey, to add to that....
Top Tier 17U
07
#2 Nick Chmielewski
#4 Kevin Crane
#5 Grant Monroe
#8 Casey McMurray
#15 Gerry Martinez
#17 Brett Van Asdlen
#20 Pete Capetta
#24 John Williams
#28 Michael Bradarich
#34 Andrew Trepel
#38 Derek Graham
#43 Jordan Rosenberg
#47 Josh Tolan
#48 Steve Godawa
#50 Ryan Kennedy
#52 Jared Levi
OPTW Ian Goldberg
OPTW Matt Burch
OPTW Cameron McConnell
07- Albert McCormick from De La Salle is an absolute stud. Runs a 6.7 60 and has a 90+ arm from the infield/outfield. Great athlete. Look for him to open up some eyes.
Top Tier 17U
07
#2 Nick Chmielewski
#4 Kevin Crane
#5 Grant Monroe
#8 Casey McMurray
#15 Gerry Martinez
#17 Brett Van Asdlen
#20 Pete Capetta
#24 John Williams
#28 Michael Bradarich
#34 Andrew Trepel
#38 Derek Graham
#43 Jordan Rosenberg
#47 Josh Tolan
#48 Steve Godawa
#50 Ryan Kennedy
#52 Jared Levi
OPTW Ian Goldberg
OPTW Matt Burch
OPTW Cameron McConnell
07- Albert McCormick from De La Salle is an absolute stud. Runs a 6.7 60 and has a 90+ arm from the infield/outfield. Great athlete. Look for him to open up some eyes.
Smokey,
you da man!! Not to confuse your "system" , the top 4 Sparks(that you listed) and Wunderlick from that team will be hanging around the Orioles at our National events.
So you can put them on our "sometimes".
you da man!! Not to confuse your "system" , the top 4 Sparks(that you listed) and Wunderlick from that team will be hanging around the Orioles at our National events.
So you can put them on our "sometimes".
I'd say Top Tier looks strong to quite strong.
Lakeside Cardinals
PBR-06 # 17 INF-Tyler Ladendorf, Maine West, Undecided***
PBR-06 # 55 RHP-Mike Kloss, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 # 60 INF/RHP-Tim Barry, Loyola, Undecided
PBR-06 # 104 RHP-Kevin Manson, Maine South, Illinois
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Nick Robinson, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Matt Shimonavsky, Niles West
PBR-06 OPTW P-Mort Hart, Notre Dame
06, Jake Ehrenberg- Niles West
06, Matt Wietlispach, Notre Dame
06, Mike Pagano, Notre Dame
06, Brian Cusack, Notre Dame
06, Nate Pierce, Notre Dame
06, John Creely, Notre Dame
PBR-07 #44 C-Andy Parsill, Niles West
PBR-07 # 45 OF-Charlie Capozzoli, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW P-Mike Bradley, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Joe Crespo, Notre Dame
07, Nick Pagano, Notre Dame
*** Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Id say everything looks good except you're missing a couple of 07s and one 08.
07-Matt Hamann, Glenbrook North
07-Tommy Deschamps, Glenbrook South
07-Jeff Grodecki, Glenbrook South
07-John Hirka, Maine West
07-Adam Buttler, Niles West
07-Ian Tomkins, Loyola Academy
07-Todd Whited, Glenbrook South
07-Elliot Greenhill, Whitney Young
08-Nikko Tountas, Niles West
08-Chris Kontos, Niles West
PBR-06 # 17 INF-Tyler Ladendorf, Maine West, Undecided***
PBR-06 # 55 RHP-Mike Kloss, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 # 60 INF/RHP-Tim Barry, Loyola, Undecided
PBR-06 # 104 RHP-Kevin Manson, Maine South, Illinois
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Nick Robinson, Notre Dame, Undecided
PBR-06 OPTW INF-Matt Shimonavsky, Niles West
PBR-06 OPTW P-Mort Hart, Notre Dame
06, Jake Ehrenberg- Niles West
06, Matt Wietlispach, Notre Dame
06, Mike Pagano, Notre Dame
06, Brian Cusack, Notre Dame
06, Nate Pierce, Notre Dame
06, John Creely, Notre Dame
PBR-07 #44 C-Andy Parsill, Niles West
PBR-07 # 45 OF-Charlie Capozzoli, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW P-Mike Bradley, Maine South
PBR-07 OPTW INF-Joe Crespo, Notre Dame
07, Nick Pagano, Notre Dame
*** Also listed on Top Tier’s roster
Id say everything looks good except you're missing a couple of 07s and one 08.
07-Matt Hamann, Glenbrook North
07-Tommy Deschamps, Glenbrook South
07-Jeff Grodecki, Glenbrook South
07-John Hirka, Maine West
07-Adam Buttler, Niles West
07-Ian Tomkins, Loyola Academy
07-Todd Whited, Glenbrook South
07-Elliot Greenhill, Whitney Young
08-Nikko Tountas, Niles West
08-Chris Kontos, Niles West
Gio Cantwell (Sox 18U) is #44.
Top Tier just added the hard throwing lefty John Flanagan ranked # 1 in PBR class of 2007 to its roster.
Just an observation from the outside and maybe I'm the one who is crazy here. A couple of these rosters here are absolutely huge. Last time I checked there were only 9 positions out on a field, how can all these players possibly be kept happy with enough playing time for weekend tournaments? You could actually take the rosters from a couple of these teams and make a third team that would be very good.
What exactly does this purpose serve by carrying so many players? Can somebody say quality, not quantity?
What exactly does this purpose serve by carrying so many players? Can somebody say quality, not quantity?
18u roster - Rosters need to be large for the following reason: Vacations, college visits for uncommitted players, Showcases (PG, AFLAC, Area Code, etc...) personal time off, June draft - Last year we had 7 players drafted. And the # 1 reason is, PITCHING. You can never have enough pitchers. Especially, going into big time events (that sometimes last 1 week).
25 player roster
17u roster - Every thing is the same except the draft. 21 player roster
jmo
25 player roster
17u roster - Every thing is the same except the draft. 21 player roster
jmo
Also if you hoard prospects...no one else can have them... 
Good point Blazer .... As you know, every travel team has a different philosophy -- some are in it to maximize exposure for the kids and to play some good baseball --- others are it for "maximum exposure." 
Not judging ... HOWEVER, we sometimes hype players beyond their actual capabilities --- We definitely need to get more input from pro scouts (Blazer's team does this well)
Not judging ... HOWEVER, we sometimes hype players beyond their actual capabilities --- We definitely need to get more input from pro scouts (Blazer's team does this well)
Just a few points I'd like to bring up about roster sizes. I don't live in Chicago or even Illinois, but I also didn't just fall off the turnip truck this morning either.
Vacation and personal time off? We have roughly 5 mos of winter or non-baseball condusive weather in our parts. Isn't that enough time off? If I was a scout or college coach and found out someone wanted to take a "vacation" during baseball season, that tells me something.
AFLAC and area code? Don't those events happen in August? Most summer seasons have been wrapped up by then.
The draft I can buy, but only for an 18 year old team.
Week long tournaments? Do you mean tournament? The PG one right?
Most of these pitchers I would assume are their hs ace's, I'm sure every one of them thinks they are one of the best, if not the best on the team. Are starters going to be left in to complete games or given their 2-3 innings so others can pitch to be seen as well? Of course everyone wants to win, but is that really what it is all about? Most of these kids will forget about the tournaments they won in a couple years but could have their lives changed by getting into games and performing in front of the right people. I think a lot of that is forgotten in the name of making the program look good. Are you doing this to make the kids look good or yourself?
One last thing, is anyone's word good anymore? If you commit to a team what are you doing even talking to another team? What is that team doing talking to you? Pretty arrogant if you ask me. Especially if your going to accuse other teams of doing the same thing you are.
I don't mean any disrespect here, I just think sometimes promises might be made to people that will never be able to be kept with rosters that size. The team will not miss out or suffer, but the player might miss out on an opportunity while he sits watching others.
Good call Blazer!
JMO
Vacation and personal time off? We have roughly 5 mos of winter or non-baseball condusive weather in our parts. Isn't that enough time off? If I was a scout or college coach and found out someone wanted to take a "vacation" during baseball season, that tells me something.
AFLAC and area code? Don't those events happen in August? Most summer seasons have been wrapped up by then.
The draft I can buy, but only for an 18 year old team.
Week long tournaments? Do you mean tournament? The PG one right?
Most of these pitchers I would assume are their hs ace's, I'm sure every one of them thinks they are one of the best, if not the best on the team. Are starters going to be left in to complete games or given their 2-3 innings so others can pitch to be seen as well? Of course everyone wants to win, but is that really what it is all about? Most of these kids will forget about the tournaments they won in a couple years but could have their lives changed by getting into games and performing in front of the right people. I think a lot of that is forgotten in the name of making the program look good. Are you doing this to make the kids look good or yourself?
One last thing, is anyone's word good anymore? If you commit to a team what are you doing even talking to another team? What is that team doing talking to you? Pretty arrogant if you ask me. Especially if your going to accuse other teams of doing the same thing you are.
I don't mean any disrespect here, I just think sometimes promises might be made to people that will never be able to be kept with rosters that size. The team will not miss out or suffer, but the player might miss out on an opportunity while he sits watching others.
Good call Blazer!
JMO
Seed,
Seems like you've got a long list of things to say regarding the post of 34/33. Perhaps you should have PM'd him. Oh well, I'll never let an opportunity to respond to more backhanded accusations go unanswered. The heck with my New Year's resolutions.
PG is not the ONLY week long tournament held in the country, hardly. For example,an 18U team is probably looking forward at least as much to the Connie Mack series. I'm sure your son must be playing in this tournament. If you figure in the state tournament, the regional tournament and then the week long finale in New Mexico (if you're fortunate enough to get there) you're probably talking about almost 3 weeks of playing Connie Mack baseball. When you add these events to the WWBA in Georgia you'd better have plenty of arms.
My son's 17U team is playing in the West Coast Summer Series in San Diego and we'll be out there for a week. As far as a 17U team having players that miss some time to attend a college camp (as mine is doing at Stanford) or a showcase event,a team must have a roster large enough to allow players to make these important visits. Now, I see that your son is being recruited by "the biggest and best schools in the land", so attending a college camp or showcase wouldn't be on his list of things to do. Most boys, including my own, are not in that position. I didn't fall off the turnip truck either.
Seems like you've got a long list of things to say regarding the post of 34/33. Perhaps you should have PM'd him. Oh well, I'll never let an opportunity to respond to more backhanded accusations go unanswered. The heck with my New Year's resolutions.
PG is not the ONLY week long tournament held in the country, hardly. For example,an 18U team is probably looking forward at least as much to the Connie Mack series. I'm sure your son must be playing in this tournament. If you figure in the state tournament, the regional tournament and then the week long finale in New Mexico (if you're fortunate enough to get there) you're probably talking about almost 3 weeks of playing Connie Mack baseball. When you add these events to the WWBA in Georgia you'd better have plenty of arms.
My son's 17U team is playing in the West Coast Summer Series in San Diego and we'll be out there for a week. As far as a 17U team having players that miss some time to attend a college camp (as mine is doing at Stanford) or a showcase event,a team must have a roster large enough to allow players to make these important visits. Now, I see that your son is being recruited by "the biggest and best schools in the land", so attending a college camp or showcase wouldn't be on his list of things to do. Most boys, including my own, are not in that position. I didn't fall off the turnip truck either.
The tournament in East Cobb is long, too. TT was down there last year and the rain probably lengthened it considerably.
Seed's comments are more applicable to an 18U team but everyone needs to load up on pitching and have some extra players available for emergencies. Didn't TT get beat by Burr Ridge last year because most of their players were unavailable?
PS: My son is a fetus, isn't being recruited by anyone of note, and will attend any events that he is invited to and wants to attend.
Seed's comments are more applicable to an 18U team but everyone needs to load up on pitching and have some extra players available for emergencies. Didn't TT get beat by Burr Ridge last year because most of their players were unavailable?
PS: My son is a fetus, isn't being recruited by anyone of note, and will attend any events that he is invited to and wants to attend.
My Roster is split between two teams, one will have some 07s' mixed in with some D1 kids. The other will be my eighteens with a couple 07's, and when we go to GA for the PG National at the 17u we will put together a mixed group from all over. Not all Orioles. For the most part both teams will play with each other the whole season though.
As far as Pitching goes, I am comfortable in a 5 game tourny with 9 Pitchers. We will take 10-11 to Ga when we go at the 17u and the 18u.
Seed,
What I try to do is get my front line guys or starters an early show, like 2-3 innings(like a bull pen day) then bring them back on the following 3rd day and let them go. Like a Thurs -Sunday. It gives them two showings and I get to use my best twice. It varies though. Pitch counts, who we are playing and the score of the games , and all that good stuff.
As far as Pitching goes, I am comfortable in a 5 game tourny with 9 Pitchers. We will take 10-11 to Ga when we go at the 17u and the 18u.
Seed,
What I try to do is get my front line guys or starters an early show, like 2-3 innings(like a bull pen day) then bring them back on the following 3rd day and let them go. Like a Thurs -Sunday. It gives them two showings and I get to use my best twice. It varies though. Pitch counts, who we are playing and the score of the games , and all that good stuff.
A man with a plan. I like it!
Don't mean to sound like I'm giving backhanded accusations. But, taking a vacation in the middle of the baseball season? YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
I guess, if he played on a Legion team. Take that vacation in December or January when the weather is less than nice here. I can understand college camps or showcases for U17 players. But for graduated seniors that are at that point less than 3 mos from starting college? What kind of a college will they end up at?
Hey, I could be all wrong here, it wouldn't be the first time. Just ask my wife. But I'm still scratching my head on this one.
Don't mean to sound like I'm giving backhanded accusations. But, taking a vacation in the middle of the baseball season? YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
I guess, if he played on a Legion team. Take that vacation in December or January when the weather is less than nice here. I can understand college camps or showcases for U17 players. But for graduated seniors that are at that point less than 3 mos from starting college? What kind of a college will they end up at?Hey, I could be all wrong here, it wouldn't be the first time. Just ask my wife. But I'm still scratching my head on this one.
Any tournament, college camp or showcase that my son is part of is the greatest vacation I could ever take. I even love watching him practice.
Last summer my son attended the PG Academic Showcase which ran concurrently with the PG Unsigned Seniors Showcase. I certainly don't have the numbers, but for those seniors who attended, and ended up playing college ball as a result, I'm sure they are glad that their summer coach let them take a long weekend off.
Last summer my son attended the PG Academic Showcase which ran concurrently with the PG Unsigned Seniors Showcase. I certainly don't have the numbers, but for those seniors who attended, and ended up playing college ball as a result, I'm sure they are glad that their summer coach let them take a long weekend off.
Carrying a lot of players is an apparent necessity for Travel Teams. If you are a good, but not great player you may not get the playing time you need to improve unless kids take off....and a lot of them do. Not for vacations very often, but for camps, showcases, etc.
A better question may be is if it is better to be a very good player on a great team (limited playing time) or a very good player on a good team and getting a lot of playing time.
A better question may be is if it is better to be a very good player on a great team (limited playing time) or a very good player on a good team and getting a lot of playing time.
Blazer & Seedthrower, There is no crying in Baseball!! Blazer How do you Horde players? I've heard of hording money, food, material possessions,maybe? Hording players, is it not up to the player and parents to ultimately decide what team is best for their situation? Is sports not about you getting your best players and challenging my best? Got to love ompetition, if you can't stand the heat get out. Seedthrower, What's your angle? You complain about your son throwing 137 pitches in a game, then comment about teams roster sizes, that can prevent your sons situation. Your Quality vs quantity commment was comical. I was in Kenosha to see Top Tier dismantle a Wisconsin team, they had no problem with quality or quantity. Maybe you son was on the losing end of one of those games or did not make the team? My son played for TT two years ago, is now playing in college, both great experiences. Todd, Shaun and Marty while not always agreeing with their coaching methods, has done as much as anyone to promote their program, players and Baseball to the benefit of all players. I wish your son the best, sounds like a nice player. Do not let ego get in the way, my college coach did not like interfering parents, they get paid to make decisions. Duece Doc, some common sense, sounds like a well thought out plan, if you carry 10-11 pitchers. How many players are you taking total? Carefully you will may be crucified for Hording...
We will go with 11-12 positions, keep in mind that a couple are two way plyers. We will be somewhere around 21 guys when we go South.
Spare catcher, and a young one in the bullpen. Spare OF, Spare corner guy/DH, I do not problems with playing time, and yet keep them fresh. My bench for the most part understands their roles.
Spare catcher, and a young one in the bullpen. Spare OF, Spare corner guy/DH, I do not problems with playing time, and yet keep them fresh. My bench for the most part understands their roles.
Blazer & SeedThrower – you must be neighbors.
It’s pretty funny… We are going to have 21 players on our 17u roster and 25 on our 18’s.
Blazer and SeedThrower think we are hording players. Hmmmm
I went to the websites of a few teams in Illinois and they had the following on their rosters:
McHenry Hurricanes (17u) – 20 players
Orland Sparks (17) – 26 players
SI Bullets (18u) – 22 players
SeedThrower you think deucedoc is the only team with a plan (or is there some type of connection)
If deucedoc states that he is having 10-11 pitchers on his roster for a PG event. Wouldn’t that make him carry 20+ players? However, SeedThrower makes a comment that he is a man with a plan.
Maybe, you boys have something else up your crawl. You certainly can PM me with what is really on your minds.
SeedThrower,
You think it is unbelievable that a player would go on a short vacation during the summer?
What about the kid that has been told that he is going to visit his grandfather for his 90th birthday?
What about the kid that has to leave to go to his sister's wedding?
What about the kid that is going to visit his brother at overnight camp, who he has not seen in 4 weeks?
What about the kid that has to go on a cruise with the rest of his family and grandparents for a family reunion?
These are a few reasons why some Top Tier players missed some tournaments last year.
Don’t worry about where our kids go to college they all seem to be doing fine.
It seems that you have missed the boat and maybe your kid has his hands full living up to your expectations.
Blazer and SeedThrower, your statements are offensive. Stop whining and put it out on the field.
We have built a fine organization – DEAL WITH IT!!!
It’s pretty funny… We are going to have 21 players on our 17u roster and 25 on our 18’s.
Blazer and SeedThrower think we are hording players. Hmmmm
I went to the websites of a few teams in Illinois and they had the following on their rosters:
McHenry Hurricanes (17u) – 20 players
Orland Sparks (17) – 26 players
SI Bullets (18u) – 22 players
SeedThrower you think deucedoc is the only team with a plan (or is there some type of connection)
If deucedoc states that he is having 10-11 pitchers on his roster for a PG event. Wouldn’t that make him carry 20+ players? However, SeedThrower makes a comment that he is a man with a plan.
Maybe, you boys have something else up your crawl. You certainly can PM me with what is really on your minds.
SeedThrower,
You think it is unbelievable that a player would go on a short vacation during the summer?
What about the kid that has been told that he is going to visit his grandfather for his 90th birthday?
What about the kid that has to leave to go to his sister's wedding?
What about the kid that is going to visit his brother at overnight camp, who he has not seen in 4 weeks?
What about the kid that has to go on a cruise with the rest of his family and grandparents for a family reunion?
These are a few reasons why some Top Tier players missed some tournaments last year.
Don’t worry about where our kids go to college they all seem to be doing fine.
It seems that you have missed the boat and maybe your kid has his hands full living up to your expectations.
Blazer and SeedThrower, your statements are offensive. Stop whining and put it out on the field.
We have built a fine organization – DEAL WITH IT!!!
I don't know where the connection thing is coming from, but I think you can find him and his son at the web meetings. I was asked a simple question. So I answered, and that is what we do , I don't care what others do..
I was actually going to PM you but since you brought me into this I figured I would post public as well. I would like to get this straight, I have absolutley no idea who seedthrower is, it sounds as if 33/34 does though. Of course I know Blazer from having paths cross on the field. But I have no ties with his club either.
I think its time that a few people involved with the kids from our area really get a grip on what it is we are supossed to be doing. Developing and exoposing. Some just developing and others just exposing. The only plan I have is that we , John Cangelosi myself and a few others are going to provide a place where good players can come and learn the game. And that includes our behavior away from the field. Called a program.
Told my wife I am the man with the plan and she had different plans for me, dishes..
I plan on this, getting my club ready to play every day we take the field. We will play hard from start to finish and we will be as professional as HS players can act. Not play but act.. Win or lose the other team will walk away knowing they just played a class organazation. That is the plan, pretty simple.
Seedthrower whoever the heck you are, High expectations are a good thing, set the goals high and set them where they are realistic. Keep encouraging with as much positive as you can, if your forcing the issue on the kid then its time to re evaluate your methods, but I highly doubt that.
Why is everything on this site when it comes to the HS or the Travel teams so confrontational??? Its just a game, one we love, but lets keep in mind that these are kids still, kids who need to be taught and led in the right direction. They for the most part have not even started the journey yet.
Now I know where Smokey gets "Keep it Teal"
The sad thing about this is they have to read this stuff.. I can understand when kids act like kids, where I get lost is when the adults have to act like kids.
See you guys when we put it on the field...
I think its time that a few people involved with the kids from our area really get a grip on what it is we are supossed to be doing. Developing and exoposing. Some just developing and others just exposing. The only plan I have is that we , John Cangelosi myself and a few others are going to provide a place where good players can come and learn the game. And that includes our behavior away from the field. Called a program.
Told my wife I am the man with the plan and she had different plans for me, dishes..
I plan on this, getting my club ready to play every day we take the field. We will play hard from start to finish and we will be as professional as HS players can act. Not play but act.. Win or lose the other team will walk away knowing they just played a class organazation. That is the plan, pretty simple.
Seedthrower whoever the heck you are, High expectations are a good thing, set the goals high and set them where they are realistic. Keep encouraging with as much positive as you can, if your forcing the issue on the kid then its time to re evaluate your methods, but I highly doubt that.
Why is everything on this site when it comes to the HS or the Travel teams so confrontational??? Its just a game, one we love, but lets keep in mind that these are kids still, kids who need to be taught and led in the right direction. They for the most part have not even started the journey yet.
Now I know where Smokey gets "Keep it Teal"
The sad thing about this is they have to read this stuff.. I can understand when kids act like kids, where I get lost is when the adults have to act like kids.
See you guys when we put it on the field...
FYI, any conclusions drawn from these lists and who's "best in the state" is skewed at best. LOL! I seem to remember some type of reference to that in this thread. I just wanted to remind posters that several of the "best" in our area don't play ball in Illinois during the summer. Some like my SS last year played their summer ball for teams out of St. Louis. I'm sure that the same can be said for those players along the Indiana, Iowa, or Kentucky borders. Also, don't discount that in the Southern portion of the state, Legion ball is still big. JMHO!
ducedoc - the "dishes" line is a CLASSIC!
ducedoc - the "dishes" line is a CLASSIC!
Bill, so "eloquent" gotta love the HS baseball web. It has turned you completely. And married, who would have ever thought. I know Rambo would never have thought it. LOL
Sweaty,
Its the blood pressure medicine.
Its the blood pressure medicine.
quote:Blazer and SeedThrower, your statements are offensive. Stop whining and put it out on the field.
We have built a fine organization – DEAL WITH IT!!!
I've had about all I can stand...
It is interesting to see who got agitated when I made a simple comment about hoarding players...
I didn't single anyone out but you TT guys got all hot under the collar...wonder why that is?
As for building a great program...good for you...how come you constantly have to remind people of how good you are...methinks it's a case of small man's syndrome.
Your "program" is only as good as other people think it is...not how good you tell everyone it is.
I learned early in this process that the ones who constantly crow about how good their own team is are likely in this game for the wrong reasons. You'll very rarely hear me talk about our program, it's accomplishments or what we've done...That's because the accomplishments of our program have nothing to do with me...they are completely attributed to the hard work and talent of our kids...some of us on here forget that it's about the kids and not the "program", name recognition, or the adults running the show.
If and when I do post something about our players' accomplishments I'm usually embarrassed to do it.
That doesn't seem to be the case with certain groups...
As for anyone having a "great" program...that is not for me to say. All I know is our program strives to:
1. Prepares kids for playing at the next level
2. Finds or attempts to find each kid a home at the next level
3. Handles itself with class on and off the field (in the hotels, with umpires, in the community, respects other teams, respects property)
4. Allows the kids to have fun.
5. Teaches kids about the game at the higher levels
6. Teach kids how to play and succeed in a team setting at a high level
7. Get our kids in front baseball's "decision makers" (Scouting directors, cross-checker, D1 head coaches, etc)
8. Play every game hard.
Nothing makes me happier than coming off the field after a game (win or lose) and having a scout or college coach say, "I love the way your team plays the game..." It's happened a bunch and every time I still take it as the ultimate compliment.
No amount of message board crowing will replace the true respect of people in the baseball community.
That's what OUR program is about...
Blazer,
When you write you remind me of Popeye. Remember his famous quote, "that's all I can stand, I can't stands no more". Haha.
When you write you remind me of Popeye. Remember his famous quote, "that's all I can stand, I can't stands no more". Haha.
Somewhere playhard must be smiling.
Sweaty,
Are you coming to the pizza party on Saturday? It should be lots of fun and you'd look good in a referees shirt. LOL.
Are you coming to the pizza party on Saturday? It should be lots of fun and you'd look good in a referees shirt. LOL.
"small man's syndrome" I now know how Cangy stuck in the show for 13 years...lol
where is playhard?
never never land
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Who is playhard ?
Blazer,
I am sure you have a fine organization like all the other teams that have been mentioned in this forum.
No one is doubting that. I am sure you are proud of your teams accomplishments and what your team stands for. I am also sure that you are the first person to stand up for your team as am I.
I made a comment about the size of our roster and your post came after mine about hording players.
I apologize if you were not directing that to our program.
Deucedoc while your doing the dishes, I am taking out the garbage…LOL
Let’s get this season started…
I am sure you have a fine organization like all the other teams that have been mentioned in this forum.
No one is doubting that. I am sure you are proud of your teams accomplishments and what your team stands for. I am also sure that you are the first person to stand up for your team as am I.
I made a comment about the size of our roster and your post came after mine about hording players.
I apologize if you were not directing that to our program.
Deucedoc while your doing the dishes, I am taking out the garbage…LOL
Let’s get this season started…
sulltiger24.....
"Playhard" is a ghost from the past, unless he uses a different screen name now. 
Playhard is a nutty 
, funny, controversial, knowledgeable, great orator of the game of baseball. 
A great guy!!!! He has a gorgeous lady friend (can you say HOT), 
unless he finally married her, or she dumped him (maybe she likes older guys) 
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I met 'playhard' once and I'll never forget him. He has a definite passion for the game. I hope to hear from him again some day. We had some goodtimes on these boards a few years ago!!!
Boomer
"Playhard" is a ghost from the past,
unless he uses a different screen name now. Playhard is a nutty , funny, controversial, knowledgeable, great orator of the game of baseball. A great guy!!!! He has a gorgeous lady friend (can you say HOT), unless he finally married her, or she dumped him (maybe she likes older guys) .I met 'playhard' once and I'll never forget him. He has a definite passion for the game. I hope to hear from him again some day. We had some goodtimes on these boards a few years ago!!!
Boomer
When reading over some of the comments about "hoarding players" I began to think what difference is there between these travel teams and a college team? Answer-- ?????????
What size of rosters do the colleges have? How many pitchers do they carry? Looks like Deuce Doc has a plan?and as long as these coaches make it clear to the kids prior to their decisions on how they plan to use the roster....IT IS THE PARENTS DECISION AND KIDS DECISION....if they are unhappy during the season in Travel Ball what are they going to be like when they go to college as a FROSH on a 25 man roster?
Your competitive juices are FLOWING and the season is just around the corner...cant wait to see some of these teams discussed on this website play......
What size of rosters do the colleges have? How many pitchers do they carry? Looks like Deuce Doc has a plan?and as long as these coaches make it clear to the kids prior to their decisions on how they plan to use the roster....IT IS THE PARENTS DECISION AND KIDS DECISION....if they are unhappy during the season in Travel Ball what are they going to be like when they go to college as a FROSH on a 25 man roster?
Your competitive juices are FLOWING and the season is just around the corner...cant wait to see some of these teams discussed on this website play......
quote:How do you Horde players? I've heard of hording money, food, material possessions,maybe? Hording players, is it not up to the player and parents to ultimately decide what team is best for their situation?
FYI - A team does not "horde" players, but it can "hoard" players. Now, if it "hoards" enough players, it would have a "horde" of "hoarded" players. I'm available to correct any other word use or grammar for you all...
PS - see below. Main Entry: horde
Pronunciation: 'hOrd, 'hord
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, G, & Polish; Middle French & German, from Polish horda, from Ukrainian dialect gorda, alteration of Ukrainian orda, from Old Russian, from Turkic orda, ordu khan's residence
1 a : a political subdivision of central Asian nomads b : a people or tribe of nomadic life
2 : a teeming crowd or throng : SWARM
synonym see CROWD
Main Entry: 2hoard
Function: verb
transitive senses
1 : to lay up a hoard of
2 : to keep (as one's thoughts) to oneself
intransitive senses : to lay up a hoard
- hoard·er noun
deucedoc,
"Why is everything on this site when it comes to the HS or the Travel teams so confrontational??? Its just a game, one we love, but lets keep in mind that these are kids still, kids who need to be taught and led in the right direction. They for the most part have not even started the journey yet.
Now I know where Smokey gets "Keep it Teal"
The sad thing about this is they have to read this stuff.. I can understand when kids act like kids, where I get lost is when the adults have to act like kids."
Outstanding observation and it is the main reason why I very seldom post or even read what is going on in the Illinois forum any more. It is a true shame that this forum has gone from be informative and helping, to being about who is better at this or who is better at that.
I have always been one to believe that "talk is cheap", "good player and teams don't need to tell anybody how good they are, because their opponents know" and "if you have to say it, you probably can't do it"...
deucedoc, also your plan, hopes and goals for your team are all the same things I did and used with my teams for the 8 years I coached them...1 in the minors and 13 still in college...it seemed to work.
I never had the most talent but we never shyied away from playing anyone and all knew who we were after the game...win or lose
"Why is everything on this site when it comes to the HS or the Travel teams so confrontational??? Its just a game, one we love, but lets keep in mind that these are kids still, kids who need to be taught and led in the right direction. They for the most part have not even started the journey yet.
Now I know where Smokey gets "Keep it Teal"
The sad thing about this is they have to read this stuff.. I can understand when kids act like kids, where I get lost is when the adults have to act like kids."
Outstanding observation and it is the main reason why I very seldom post or even read what is going on in the Illinois forum any more. It is a true shame that this forum has gone from be informative and helping, to being about who is better at this or who is better at that.
I have always been one to believe that "talk is cheap", "good player and teams don't need to tell anybody how good they are, because their opponents know" and "if you have to say it, you probably can't do it"...
deucedoc, also your plan, hopes and goals for your team are all the same things I did and used with my teams for the 8 years I coached them...1 in the minors and 13 still in college...it seemed to work.
I never had the most talent but we never shyied away from playing anyone and all knew who we were after the game...win or lose
TAR,
Great post. I've been reading so much about "hording" that I thought there must have been an official spelling change in Websters Collegiate Dictionary.
Great post. I've been reading so much about "hording" that I thought there must have been an official spelling change in Websters Collegiate Dictionary.
What does the 2006 summer roster fot the Norwood blues look like?
Mde5,
I am in agreement with your philosophy 1oo%.
You have obviously coached teams that had the right mind set. Transplanted to AZ sounds pretty good to me right now, Its 0 degrees out side my door without the wind chill.
I called one of my 07 players , at the end of last years season, he played against us at SIU and threw against us. I shocked the kid and his parents because when I saw him throw, it was most likley his worst outing ever. Hammered would have been an understatement. But, I was more interested in the way he handled himself and the way he composed himself in the beating. Just watching him throw you knew he was good, but I saw a kid who kept coming at us in his worst moment. I then knew he was my kind of guy.
To me the words of a coach that has been in the business as long as you have are the words that are important. The fact that I am even thinking on the same lines , I will take as a compliment. The only thing you can do as a player and a coach is keep trying to get better. All the other garbage is exactly that, garbage.
I am in agreement with your philosophy 1oo%.
You have obviously coached teams that had the right mind set. Transplanted to AZ sounds pretty good to me right now, Its 0 degrees out side my door without the wind chill.
I called one of my 07 players , at the end of last years season, he played against us at SIU and threw against us. I shocked the kid and his parents because when I saw him throw, it was most likley his worst outing ever. Hammered would have been an understatement. But, I was more interested in the way he handled himself and the way he composed himself in the beating. Just watching him throw you knew he was good, but I saw a kid who kept coming at us in his worst moment. I then knew he was my kind of guy.
To me the words of a coach that has been in the business as long as you have are the words that are important. The fact that I am even thinking on the same lines , I will take as a compliment. The only thing you can do as a player and a coach is keep trying to get better. All the other garbage is exactly that, garbage.
Who is playin for the Blues?
Bueller...Bueller... anybody out there. Bueller.
Bueller...Bueller... anybody out there. Bueller.
Got a couple calls from playhard this afternoon. He is alive and doing well.
tuzigoot,
are you a player????
are you a player????
No, a dad. I went to college with playhard. My son worked with playhard 1-2 times per week at the Top Tier facility in Lynnwood last fall and winter. He called me to see how he is doing.
Goose,
Have you found Bueller yet??? Where are those Blues??
Have you found Bueller yet??? Where are those Blues??
No one has mentioned the Berwyn Bulldog 18s who again will have a team this year. I'm just surprised no one has mentioned this team!!
here's your chance, tell us more Padre1.
Just a question here, are all teams pretty well set? or are some players still being contacted to play on the various teams?
still no bueller????
smokeyboy,
most teams should be set, but things happen up until the first pitch. have a few friends that play and even though they have committed to specific teams, they are being contacted by other programs trying to acquire their services. don't know if that happens everywhere. i believe once someone has committed they should not be contacted. just my opinion and nothing else.
most teams should be set, but things happen up until the first pitch. have a few friends that play and even though they have committed to specific teams, they are being contacted by other programs trying to acquire their services. don't know if that happens everywhere. i believe once someone has committed they should not be contacted. just my opinion and nothing else.
Maybe we can start a traveling team NLI? Other traveling teams could not talk/recruit after signing. 
We could post the NLIs on the HSBBWeb. Still can’t get the picture of Duce doin’ the dishes….. 
Other traveling teams could not talk/recruit after signing. We could post the NLIs on the HSBBWeb. Still can’t get the picture of Duce doin’ the dishes…..
I think some coaches are used to having their players poached and make the necessary adjustments early in the process.
Switching summer teams is a lot like giving a verbal commit to a school (to hold your spot), then reneging when a "better" choice comes along .... and so on and so on until you are playing for the team that you wanted to play for in the beginning.
Switching summer teams is a lot like giving a verbal commit to a school (to hold your spot), then reneging when a "better" choice comes along .... and so on and so on until you are playing for the team that you wanted to play for in the beginning.
Ratboy,
What do you consider early in the process?
I feel when you make a call to a kid, the first thing you ask is if he is committed. At that point he says he is, it should be a dead issue. There is nothing more to say. I think this is happeninig , just not with everyone.
As far as the advise with the verbals, that is the last comparison I would make. Comparing a college coach who is working with a budget and trying to fill needs for next years team and a Summer coach are pretty far apart. IMO
There is something to be said about someones word. What, my word is different then my signature? Not to me..
Smokey, if this is how it is I won't be doing dishes long, something better will come along. But I know there isnt..
What do you consider early in the process?
I feel when you make a call to a kid, the first thing you ask is if he is committed. At that point he says he is, it should be a dead issue. There is nothing more to say. I think this is happeninig , just not with everyone.
As far as the advise with the verbals, that is the last comparison I would make. Comparing a college coach who is working with a budget and trying to fill needs for next years team and a Summer coach are pretty far apart. IMO
There is something to be said about someones word. What, my word is different then my signature? Not to me..
Smokey, if this is how it is I won't be doing dishes long, something better will come along. But I know there isnt..
Dueucedoc,
I would hope that the coaches, for the few teams
that exist at your age level, would not be trying to convince a player(s)that they should
go back on their commitment to one coach and join another team. My son(s) would never be allowed to play for a coach that expected him to act in such a manner.
I would hope that the coaches, for the few teams
that exist at your age level, would not be trying to convince a player(s)that they should
go back on their commitment to one coach and join another team. My son(s) would never be allowed to play for a coach that expected him to act in such a manner.
Padre asks about the 18 year old Berwyn Bulldogs and why nobody has mentioned them? Unfortunately none of the players on this team are promoted by some of the "hype machines" out there. It's just a solid team that has over a .750 winning percentage since it's inception back in 2000 as 12 year olds, and has played against the best during these years.
There still is a core of players from the original group including the Scott & Brian Householder, Jordan Higgins (St. Joes), Zach Clements, Luke Manno & Izzy Martinez (Morton HS). A few years back, with the dismantling of the Orland Magic they picked up Brett Buckley (Mt Carmel), Sean Boyle (Provy) Mike Buchler & Mark Andersen (Sandburg). This group has now been together for about 3 or 4 years.
Couple of other player added over the last year or two such as Steve Ferguson (TF South) Chris Kubinski & Nick Gorski (Provy) have added to this team. Not a huge roster, just enough to make sure to field a competitive team for any tournament. I understand there might be one or two other original Bulldogs coming back for this year to add to the mix of talent.
Over the last several years the Bulldogs have played many of the teams listed earlier in this post (IN Yankees, Springfield Riflemen, Kenosa Indians, Lombard Lightning etc) and if they didn't beat them they definately gave them a game!
Looking forward to another great year before the boys head off to college
There still is a core of players from the original group including the Scott & Brian Householder, Jordan Higgins (St. Joes), Zach Clements, Luke Manno & Izzy Martinez (Morton HS). A few years back, with the dismantling of the Orland Magic they picked up Brett Buckley (Mt Carmel), Sean Boyle (Provy) Mike Buchler & Mark Andersen (Sandburg). This group has now been together for about 3 or 4 years.
Couple of other player added over the last year or two such as Steve Ferguson (TF South) Chris Kubinski & Nick Gorski (Provy) have added to this team. Not a huge roster, just enough to make sure to field a competitive team for any tournament. I understand there might be one or two other original Bulldogs coming back for this year to add to the mix of talent.
Over the last several years the Bulldogs have played many of the teams listed earlier in this post (IN Yankees, Springfield Riflemen, Kenosa Indians, Lombard Lightning etc) and if they didn't beat them they definately gave them a game!
Looking forward to another great year before the boys head off to college
Thanks for the info karlsdad
"EARLY IN THE PROCESS"
Your team likes to carry 15 players for the summer (hypothetically) but you know that somehow you will lose 2-3 kids during the school year, so you invite 18-20 kids to be part of the team. You might also experience "superstars" quitting midseason because they don't like their standing.
As far as switching teams goes:
Brian Lambert is listed on the Orioles' roster, and Top Tier's. Dillon Roark - listed on two rosters, and the same applies to Tyler Ladendorf.
I don't advocate the practice, but for the sake of dialogue ...
suppose Lambert goes with TT -- the Orioles will want to replace him, so do they take a 17U player (who is still switching teams) or contact another player?
My example would work like this (and it happens a lot):
Player is talking to coaches at a solid D3, says "I'm in". Time passes and he is approached by a D2 or NAIA school and realizes that he can play at a higher level and get scholarship money, so he tells them that he wants to play there. The coach wants him to re-take the ACT to see if he can get more academic $$, so he puts off signing anything.
A D1 school realizes that they are losing a player to the draft, so they ask the kid to come take a look -- he does and decides that is where he wants to play.
To make the example more absurd - the player gets drafted late (or thinks he is likely to be drafted soon); so he ultimately opts for a JC.
Your team likes to carry 15 players for the summer (hypothetically) but you know that somehow you will lose 2-3 kids during the school year, so you invite 18-20 kids to be part of the team. You might also experience "superstars" quitting midseason because they don't like their standing.
As far as switching teams goes:
Brian Lambert is listed on the Orioles' roster, and Top Tier's. Dillon Roark - listed on two rosters, and the same applies to Tyler Ladendorf.
I don't advocate the practice, but for the sake of dialogue ...
suppose Lambert goes with TT -- the Orioles will want to replace him, so do they take a 17U player (who is still switching teams) or contact another player?
My example would work like this (and it happens a lot):
Player is talking to coaches at a solid D3, says "I'm in". Time passes and he is approached by a D2 or NAIA school and realizes that he can play at a higher level and get scholarship money, so he tells them that he wants to play there. The coach wants him to re-take the ACT to see if he can get more academic $$, so he puts off signing anything.
A D1 school realizes that they are losing a player to the draft, so they ask the kid to come take a look -- he does and decides that is where he wants to play.
To make the example more absurd - the player gets drafted late (or thinks he is likely to be drafted soon); so he ultimately opts for a JC.
Rat,
The problem is why is a kid "on" two rosters to begin with?
To me it says something about the kid or the person posting the roster…
I would never release a roster that I thought wasn't 99.9% solid (usually backed by a deposit for the season) and I really don't like to post rosters in public other than for scouts and coaches access (it becomes a shopping list for some people).
I'm sure others are the same way (about being 99.9% sure) but still there are others who will continue to call and "recruit" kids who are on another team's roster…very classless…IMO.
The problem is why is a kid "on" two rosters to begin with?
To me it says something about the kid or the person posting the roster…
I would never release a roster that I thought wasn't 99.9% solid (usually backed by a deposit for the season) and I really don't like to post rosters in public other than for scouts and coaches access (it becomes a shopping list for some people).
I'm sure others are the same way (about being 99.9% sure) but still there are others who will continue to call and "recruit" kids who are on another team's roster…very classless…IMO.
quote:My example would work like this (and it happens a lot):
Player is talking to coaches at a solid D3, says "I'm in".
Once you tell a coach I'm in, there should be no more too it...period!
If you are unsure of your decision...don't commit!
If you think something better might come along.... don’t commit!
Too many parents and players have lost sight of normal decency and the value of your word...not to mention loyalty.
I agree blazer. Every kid I have on our roster has said to me personally that he is playing for us. When a kid says he is going to make that commitment I expect him to uphold it. We had a kid get called by East Cobb and he said no thanks. That was surprising. The lack of integrity that has been displayed by coaches and parents has been ridiculous.
Thanks Ratboy for clearing that up for me. In regards to Brian Lambert I want to clarify that in no why shape or form did Brian leave the Orioles on short notice. He gave me pleanty of time to make the adjustment. Brian is a class person and I enjoyed having him for the season we did. Much luck to Brian!
I know nothing was intended but I just do not want people to get the wrong impression of a very very hard working kid who was caught in the middle of ****.
I know nothing was intended but I just do not want people to get the wrong impression of a very very hard working kid who was caught in the middle of ****.
From another post (from another thread by Goose, just trying to keep the subject congruent)
2006 Norwood Blues
Noth Hinsdale Central C-OF
Daker Loyola Academy P-SS
Livermore St Charle East P
Heasley Crystal Lake Central P-OF
Barbier Wheaton Warrenville South 3B-SS
Pericht Providence Catholic C
Ruffalo Wheaton Warrenville South 3B
Goebbert Hampshire P-1B
Lurhring Jacobs P-OF
simotes Providence Catholic SS-3B
Noth can mash, if not mistaken works out at Strikes. Lurhring’s a great pitcher. We played with him several years ago and got a chance to see him up close. Livermore ain’t to shabby either. The Blues are gonna surprise some people…
Duce - Sorry to hear Brian Lambert will not be playing with you. Great ball player and one of the finest young men I’ve met on the Orioles (your kids are all gentlemen). I wish Brian nothing but success and all the best. It will be interesting to see where he lands for college.
50 degree weather and starting to smell like baseball…. Uhaaa spring… is this great or what. Here we go here we go!!!!!!!!!
2006 Norwood Blues
Noth Hinsdale Central C-OF
Daker Loyola Academy P-SS
Livermore St Charle East P
Heasley Crystal Lake Central P-OF
Barbier Wheaton Warrenville South 3B-SS
Pericht Providence Catholic C
Ruffalo Wheaton Warrenville South 3B
Goebbert Hampshire P-1B
Lurhring Jacobs P-OF
simotes Providence Catholic SS-3B
Noth can mash, if not mistaken works out at Strikes. Lurhring’s a great pitcher. We played with him several years ago and got a chance to see him up close. Livermore ain’t to shabby either. The Blues are gonna surprise some people…
Duce - Sorry to hear Brian Lambert will not be playing with you. Great ball player and one of the finest young men I’ve met on the Orioles (your kids are all gentlemen). I wish Brian nothing but success and all the best. It will be interesting to see where he lands for college.
50 degree weather and starting to smell like baseball…. Uhaaa spring… is this great or what. Here we go here we go!!!!!!!!!
Smokey,
He is going to IU (Indiana)..
He is going to IU (Indiana)..
It has just dawned on me, after reading the last several pages of this thread, that in reality, there are, putting it mildly, some aggressive practices when it comes to recruiting HS summer travel teams. I’ve been having trouble with this competitive recruiting of players for travel teams once a player has an affiliation or made a commitment. I realize that not all travel teams are created equal. They differ in the level of local / regional / national travel, what events are attended, level and quality of instruction, the level of exposure, real or implied, and cost. Every player and parent must evaluate for themselves. It can be a daunting task. I truly and honestly believe that all involved want the best for these kids but on the other hand each and every organization wants to field a competitive winning program. This is a competitive level of ball and the name of the game is to win. A player may be torn between the promises of a high profile team vs. his current team. Remember this baseball journey is not a 100 yard dash (or 60). It is more like a marathon. IMHO the true value of these experiences are the “life’s lessons” learned along the way. That’s what I love about baseball. This travel experience is a small, but important, part of this journey. Funny thing, I remember a time when you could count these programs on one hand with fingers to spare and getting a “cup of coffee” with one of them was a big deal. As they say it was a buyers market. The other side of the coin, there are a greater number of programs available, giving a larger number of young men greater opportunity for development and exposure. Where is the concept of team? I mean these are traveling TEAMS. I grew up in an era remembering speeches by the likes of Vince Lombardi echoing “THE TEAM, THE TEAM, THE TEAM!” I realize it is the reality of the times and that there is give & take / good & bad with these opportunities but at what cost? Please don’t take this as an attack on anyone’s team or program. These are just Sunday morning, caffeine induced, musing of a parent that is taking this journey, love it and the people I’m meeting along the way.
“You’ve got to dance with the one that brung ya, swing with the one that swung ya, life ain’t no 40 yard dash…” ~ Asleep at the Wheel
The views expressed in this diatribe do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Smokey’s staff or anyone remotely affiliated with Smokey. In fact I would like to take the opportunity to deny everything. Your honor, Smokey was never even near the place and what’s more, those are not my pants and those are most assuredly not my friends. They are merely a drunken and surly gang of hitchhikers I made the terrible, terrible mistake of giving a lift. I promise to be good, really, I swear!
“You’ve got to dance with the one that brung ya, swing with the one that swung ya, life ain’t no 40 yard dash…” ~ Asleep at the Wheel
The views expressed in this diatribe do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Smokey’s staff or anyone remotely affiliated with Smokey. In fact I would like to take the opportunity to deny everything. Your honor, Smokey was never even near the place and what’s more, those are not my pants and those are most assuredly not my friends. They are merely a drunken and surly gang of hitchhikers I made the terrible, terrible mistake of giving a lift. I promise to be good, really, I swear!
blazer and sibullet,
I could not agree with you more...you hit it right on the button!!!!
I could not agree with you more...you hit it right on the button!!!!
Orioles 17u team for Perfect Game Nationals and a couple others...
Seth Blair RHP Rock Falls
Nick Rice LHP Tremper HS WS
Brian Stroud RHP Providence Catholic HS
Chris Chojnowski RHP St Rita
Tyler Newsome LHP Marist HS
Mike Kazmarek LHP-OF Andrew HS
Kyle Kaminska RHP Naperville Central HS
Matthew Conrath LHP St Rita HS
Brad Allen RHP-INF Genva
Sean Estand RHP-INF St Rita HS
James Coleman RHP-OF Whitney Young HS
Scott Sexton INF Oak Lawn HS
Phillip Wunderlich INF Downer South
Rafeal Garcia INF Clemente HS
Devon Melecio OF Clemente HS
Shane Blair C Rock Falls HS
Lou Vecelli C Glenbard East HS
1 catcher, 1 Middle guy,
Any Non rostered Non committed persons of interest, feel free to pm me with info.
Seth Blair RHP Rock Falls
Nick Rice LHP Tremper HS WS
Brian Stroud RHP Providence Catholic HS
Chris Chojnowski RHP St Rita
Tyler Newsome LHP Marist HS
Mike Kazmarek LHP-OF Andrew HS
Kyle Kaminska RHP Naperville Central HS
Matthew Conrath LHP St Rita HS
Brad Allen RHP-INF Genva
Sean Estand RHP-INF St Rita HS
James Coleman RHP-OF Whitney Young HS
Scott Sexton INF Oak Lawn HS
Phillip Wunderlich INF Downer South
Rafeal Garcia INF Clemente HS
Devon Melecio OF Clemente HS
Shane Blair C Rock Falls HS
Lou Vecelli C Glenbard East HS
1 catcher, 1 Middle guy,
Any Non rostered Non committed persons of interest, feel free to pm me with info.
All of these guys have committed to play for us this summer so far. We have made a few changes since the last time I posted.
Tyler Bullock C DuQuoin (Austin Peay)
Tyler Choate RHP-IF Carmi (SIUC)
Spencer Clifft RHP Huntingdon TN 07
Bryant George RHP DuQuoin (SIUC)
Spencer Patton RHP South Central (Parkland CC)
Matt Weeks RHP West Frankfort (Missouri St.)
Lyle Winter RHP Pinckneyville 06 (Undecided)
Daniel Palombi C Lexington KY 07
Keegan Dennis RHP Carmi 06 (John A. Logan)
Mike Maziarz SS/3B Pana 07
Tyler Wiesemeyer OF Troy Triad 07
Kory Peppenhorst C/1B Carlyle 06(Eastern Ill)
Tyler Isaak 2B Carlyle 06(Undecided)
Kenton Parmley 2B/SS Goreville 08
Corey Slayton OF Johnston City 07
Daniel Webb RHP/OF Heath KY 08
Seth McCabe LHP Madisonville KY 07
Eric Storie OF Madisonville KY 07
Tyler Bullock C DuQuoin (Austin Peay)
Tyler Choate RHP-IF Carmi (SIUC)
Spencer Clifft RHP Huntingdon TN 07
Bryant George RHP DuQuoin (SIUC)
Spencer Patton RHP South Central (Parkland CC)
Matt Weeks RHP West Frankfort (Missouri St.)
Lyle Winter RHP Pinckneyville 06 (Undecided)
Daniel Palombi C Lexington KY 07
Keegan Dennis RHP Carmi 06 (John A. Logan)
Mike Maziarz SS/3B Pana 07
Tyler Wiesemeyer OF Troy Triad 07
Kory Peppenhorst C/1B Carlyle 06(Eastern Ill)
Tyler Isaak 2B Carlyle 06(Undecided)
Kenton Parmley 2B/SS Goreville 08
Corey Slayton OF Johnston City 07
Daniel Webb RHP/OF Heath KY 08
Seth McCabe LHP Madisonville KY 07
Eric Storie OF Madisonville KY 07
We have got to play you guys this summer. Do you have your tournaments all set already. Somebody email our summer coach at fallbaseball@hotmail.com and let him kow where you'll be so we (white sox 18's) can meet you in a tourney. It would be fun to see such great talent on one team. And young....c'mon see what we can do to get us all playing in the same tourney. Bill you can work on this too....call austin or email him at above email address and see what you can do....we need to play a few games....maybe midweek games anywhere you can get a field.....i know he is looking to get some midweek games going.
Sweaty,
Midweek with this crew wont happen due to their HS Summer Teams. They will play the weekend schedule. Our 18's may want to mix it up during the week a time or two.
It was good to see you the other day, Danny looks great and I know them guys in Bloomington can't wait to get him in the mix.
I will email him and we will work something out. I have seen your 18's in a tourny or two we are in. SIU is going to be a good one.
Midweek with this crew wont happen due to their HS Summer Teams. They will play the weekend schedule. Our 18's may want to mix it up during the week a time or two.
It was good to see you the other day, Danny looks great and I know them guys in Bloomington can't wait to get him in the mix.
I will email him and we will work something out. I have seen your 18's in a tourny or two we are in. SIU is going to be a good one.
Deuce
I got the SIU tournament schedule. Have you seen it yet? I think he paired it up pretty good.
I got the SIU tournament schedule. Have you seen it yet? I think he paired it up pretty good.
SI,
I did see it and it looks to be a good one. I will be in Ga with the group above, Waiting for the 18's to get down on Monday to play.
It is going to kill me not being at this one.
I did see it and it looks to be a good one. I will be in Ga with the group above, Waiting for the 18's to get down on Monday to play.
It is going to kill me not being at this one.
Deuce, Is this tournament in Georgia? Pitching depth wins tournaments. You guys are definitely stacked in that category. Go down there and show those southerners that us northerners can compete with anyone on the national level. Good Luck and Best wishes...
SI
Anyway you can post the brackets for siu or have a link for the game pairings.
Anyway you can post the brackets for siu or have a link for the game pairings.
Here are the teams. I dont have the paings in front of me or link. I will try to get it up later tonight. I only have the form sent. Woodly might have a link somewhere or might be able to post the pairings.
Team Guide Index
1. Southern Illinois Bullets
2. Orland Park Sparks 17u
3. Lake in the Hills Legion
4. Naperville Renegades
5. Jefferson Co. Barnstormers
6. Indiana Bulls White
7. Lake Michigan Indiana Breakers
8. Chicago Heights Jayhawks
9. Illinois Magic
10. Rockford Hitmen
11. St. Louis Recruits
12. Evansville Razorbacks
13. Illinois Orioles
14. Charleston Mo. Squirrels
15. Lombard Lightning Red
16. Lisle Wolves
17. Illinois Sports Academy Titans
18. Columbus Ohio Braves
19. Bloomington-Normal Gold
20. Wheatland Ducks
21. Lombard Lightning Blue
22. Hamlin Park Top Tier
23. Illinois sports Academy Athletics
24. Indiana Bulls Red
25. Kickapoo Miss.
26. McHenry Co. Hurricanes
27. Hammond Indiana
28. White Sox 18u
29. Top Tier 18u
30. JC Saints
31. St. Louis Mustangs
32. Clarendon Hills Thunder
Team Guide Index
1. Southern Illinois Bullets
2. Orland Park Sparks 17u
3. Lake in the Hills Legion
4. Naperville Renegades
5. Jefferson Co. Barnstormers
6. Indiana Bulls White
7. Lake Michigan Indiana Breakers
8. Chicago Heights Jayhawks
9. Illinois Magic
10. Rockford Hitmen
11. St. Louis Recruits
12. Evansville Razorbacks
13. Illinois Orioles
14. Charleston Mo. Squirrels
15. Lombard Lightning Red
16. Lisle Wolves
17. Illinois Sports Academy Titans
18. Columbus Ohio Braves
19. Bloomington-Normal Gold
20. Wheatland Ducks
21. Lombard Lightning Blue
22. Hamlin Park Top Tier
23. Illinois sports Academy Athletics
24. Indiana Bulls Red
25. Kickapoo Miss.
26. McHenry Co. Hurricanes
27. Hammond Indiana
28. White Sox 18u
29. Top Tier 18u
30. JC Saints
31. St. Louis Mustangs
32. Clarendon Hills Thunder
High Heat,
Lets hope for Sunny weather in GA. I am feeling good about who we are taking down there. Your good wishes is much appreciated.
Lets hope for Sunny weather in GA. I am feeling good about who we are taking down there. Your good wishes is much appreciated.
Seth Blair And lenell MCgee are studs they played with mattingly baseball last year.
Looks like the shin dig is going to be at the SIU tournament! 
Be there or be square! 
Well done SIBullets!!!!!
Be there or be square! Well done SIBullets!!!!!
The Bloomington-Normal Baseball Association has announced the rosters for the 2006 summer teams. This year was a record turn-out at tryouts, resulting in a record number of teams. This year there will be 3 Varsity(18u), two 16u and three 15u teams.
The roster for the 18u Gold is as follows:
Seth Astroth - Normal West HS
Brad Jahnke - Normal Community HS
Ryan Juris - Bloomington HS
Craig Lutes - Normal Community HS, Illinois
Tyler McNeely - Normal University HS
Brett Moore - Bloomington HS
Johnny Moore - Normal Community HS
Chris Newsome - Pontiac HS, Illinois State
Matt Phillips - Lincoln HS
Mike Reu - Bloomington HS
Luke Stewart - Normal West HS, Georgia
Zach Watkins - Bloomington HS
Brian Weekes - Normal Community HS
Zach Williams - Mormal West HS, Olivet Nazarene
Zach Zwaga - Normal West HS, Illinois-Chicago
I've included the college commits that I am aware of at this time.
You can go to the BNBA website for the rosters and schedules of all the teams.
The roster for the 18u Gold is as follows:
Seth Astroth - Normal West HS
Brad Jahnke - Normal Community HS
Ryan Juris - Bloomington HS
Craig Lutes - Normal Community HS, Illinois
Tyler McNeely - Normal University HS
Brett Moore - Bloomington HS
Johnny Moore - Normal Community HS
Chris Newsome - Pontiac HS, Illinois State
Matt Phillips - Lincoln HS
Mike Reu - Bloomington HS
Luke Stewart - Normal West HS, Georgia
Zach Watkins - Bloomington HS
Brian Weekes - Normal Community HS
Zach Williams - Mormal West HS, Olivet Nazarene
Zach Zwaga - Normal West HS, Illinois-Chicago
I've included the college commits that I am aware of at this time.
You can go to the BNBA website for the rosters and schedules of all the teams.
Are any 08' Teams looking for a mid-infielder? Mike McQuillan is seaching for a team he's hanging up the football cleats to concentrate on baseball hes a 2nd year starter on varsity as a freshman he batted 380 4 hrs 40 some odd rbis All Catholic League First team all area Second team his cell is 708-646-9428
quote:Originally posted by Smokey:
Looks like the shin dig is going to be at the SIU tournament!
Well done SIBullets!!!!!
This tourney is put on by Diamond Sports Promotions- The Bullets have nothing to do with it other then playing in it...if you need or would like pairings; email mvanhorn@sbcglobal.net
woodly,
Sorry for the oversight. I was under the impression that SIBullets had a hand in organizing and running this venue, at least as the host team. My son has played in this tourney in the past (has moved on) and for some reason I got this impression. Maybe it’s a different venue all together? It does look like a lot more teams are participating this year. It has been a great tournament in the past, well run with great competition. By the looks of it, is getting better and better.
Give credit where credit id due…
Well done Diamond Sports Promotions and all that are involved!!!! Good luck, may it rain just enough to keep the dust down. Please keep us posted on scores and results. Thanks.
Sorry for the oversight. I was under the impression that SIBullets had a hand in organizing and running this venue, at least as the host team. My son has played in this tourney in the past (has moved on) and for some reason I got this impression. Maybe it’s a different venue all together? It does look like a lot more teams are participating this year. It has been a great tournament in the past, well run with great competition. By the looks of it, is getting better and better.
Give credit where credit id due…
Well done Diamond Sports Promotions and all that are involved!!!!
Good luck, may it rain just enough to keep the dust down. Please keep us posted on scores and results. Thanks.
He's right we had no hand in it. I just put up the teams and pairings in another post. Should be a heck of a tourney though.
quote:Originally posted by Smokey:
woodly,
Sorry for the oversight. I was under the impression that SIBullets had a hand in organizing and running this venue, at least as the host team. My son has played in this tourney in the past (has moved on) and for some reason I got this impression. Maybe it’s a different venue all together? It does look like a lot more teams are participating this year. It has been a great tournament in the past, well run with great competition. By the looks of it, is getting better and better.
Give credit where credit id due…
Well done Diamond Sports Promotions and all that are involved!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Smokey:
woodly,
Sorry for the oversight. I was under the impression that SIBullets had a hand in organizing and running this venue, at least as the host team. My son has played in this tourney in the past (has moved on) and for some reason I got this impression. Maybe it’s a
different venue all together? It does look like a lot more teams are participating this year. It has been a great tournament in the past, well run with great competition. By the looks of it, is getting better and better.
Give credit where credit id due…
Well done Diamond Sports Promotions and all that are involved!!!!
Not that i am trying to "knock the Bullets" but I am attempting to get the Illinois Colleges all of the Illinois players on their campus.
Diamond Sports is ran and operated by Mike Vanhorn who is an associate scout with Atlanta under Stu Cann
The scouts asked me to get something going for them to get the good teams in one location..The college coaches are tired of hitting the road...therefore i came up with Diamond Sports Promotions..
We run 2 exposure events and 4 tourneys...32 teams at siu-Logan College, 34 teams at Ill State-Ill Wesleyan , 14 teams at Siu =Carbondale in June and 22 teams at Kankakee Comm College...Every kid that particpates has a player profile in a book which is available to all colleges and scouts.....all of his contact information....
We have over 115 kids at Kankakee Comm College in our exposure event and 65 kids at Logan..
Not to knock the Bullets, but I have put in alot of work to help the kids,colleges and scouts...
I am now associated with Cangelosi Fall Baseball
Tyler Ladendorf advised Top Tier in December 2004 that he'd play and at the same time contacted the Lakeside Cardinals that he would NOT. WHY he is listed on both rosters is unknown. Therefore, Tyler Ladendorf proceeded with his decision using proper 'ethics' and contacted all parties involved.In regards to comments about 'recruiting', it's agreed that teams should not be allowed to do that.
Smokey, Kindly remove the *** from Tyler Ladendorf's name and remove him from Lakeside Cardinals' roster. He should not have been listed on both rosters as of November/December 2005. Also, letter of intent was signed in April 2006 with Howard College in Big Spring, Texas. Thank you
quote:Originally posted by blazer25:
Rat,
The problem is why is a kid "on" two rosters to begin with?
To me it says something about the kid or the person posting the roster…
I would never release a roster that I thought wasn't 99.9% solid (usually backed by a deposit for the season) and I really don't like to post rosters in public other than for scouts and coaches access (it becomes a shopping list for some people).
I'm sure others are the same way (about being 99.9% sure) but still there are others who will continue to call and "recruit" kids who are on another team's roster…very classless…IMO.
Blazer 25: Good point !! Roster should NOT be public until they are FINAL! However, it should be the person posting the roster that should be held accountable and not to judge the character of a player.
After 17 pages I think it is probably about time to start a new thread anyway with totally updated rosters.
bump
We arent even close yet. We have around 9 committed to playing right now and a bunch of maybe's.
Oh no, not this thread again!
This has been a fun thread and even though there have been a few dicey spots, I think this kind of discusion helps players/families get to know the landscape a bit better.
PBR,
This thread is a living, breathing animal!
When I see it starting to reappear, it let's me know that winter cannot be too far away. Neither will be the accusations, sniping, jealousies and all the rest of last winter's dialogue in a newer version.
What we shouldn't forget is just what a wonderful group of players the class of 2007 is. There have been several commits already from players who've played on different teams with many more to follow. All are to be congratulated and to the extent they were helped by their summer travel teams to get to this point, those involved with running those teams should also be congratulated and feel a sense of accomplishment.
This thread is a living, breathing animal!
When I see it starting to reappear, it let's me know that winter cannot be too far away. Neither will be the accusations, sniping, jealousies and all the rest of last winter's dialogue in a newer version.
What we shouldn't forget is just what a wonderful group of players the class of 2007 is. There have been several commits already from players who've played on different teams with many more to follow. All are to be congratulated and to the extent they were helped by their summer travel teams to get to this point, those involved with running those teams should also be congratulated and feel a sense of accomplishment.
BUMP
This thread got started before I joined, but I'll play...
Kirk Porter, RHP, Lake Zurich HS, with Bill Copps 18U whatever he names the team
Kirk Porter, RHP, Lake Zurich HS, with Bill Copps 18U whatever he names the team
any word on summer teams for 2007
Melrose Indians www.melroseindians.com
These are the college kids on our roster
Ryan Schievers Triton CC (Mount Carmel HS)
Alex Zerman- Bradley (Stevenson HS)
Travis Tolsma Western (Belvidere HS)
Scott Householder Harper (St Joes HS)
Brian Householder Harper (St Joes HS)
Ryan Hopp UW-Parkside (Hinsdale South HS)
Andy Weeks Wabash (Laporte HS)
Mike Schultz Wabash (Crown Point HS)
Anythony Even Wabash CC (Fall 2007)(West Leyden HS)
Eric Espisito Triton CC (Lemont HS)
Kyle Slechta Triton CC (Walther Lutheran HS)
Jamie Friel Deleware State (Maine South HS)
Eric Eul Triton CC (OPRF HS)
LaFringe Hayes Cincinatti (Walther Lutheran HS)
Neal Gorka Purdue (St Joes HS)
Steve Pollard St Francis (West Leyden HS)
These are the college kids on our roster
Ryan Schievers Triton CC (Mount Carmel HS)
Alex Zerman- Bradley (Stevenson HS)
Travis Tolsma Western (Belvidere HS)
Scott Householder Harper (St Joes HS)
Brian Householder Harper (St Joes HS)
Ryan Hopp UW-Parkside (Hinsdale South HS)
Andy Weeks Wabash (Laporte HS)
Mike Schultz Wabash (Crown Point HS)
Anythony Even Wabash CC (Fall 2007)(West Leyden HS)
Eric Espisito Triton CC (Lemont HS)
Kyle Slechta Triton CC (Walther Lutheran HS)
Jamie Friel Deleware State (Maine South HS)
Eric Eul Triton CC (OPRF HS)
LaFringe Hayes Cincinatti (Walther Lutheran HS)
Neal Gorka Purdue (St Joes HS)
Steve Pollard St Francis (West Leyden HS)
I thought Gorka graduated from Purdue is he still playing? Good hitter
He and LaFringe Hayes both graduated I listed them because I figured most people know the names.
Neal has been such an asset over the past 5 summers it was a lot of fun watching him grow as a ball player and a person. He will be back on the field this summer which is always fun to watch
Neal has been such an asset over the past 5 summers it was a lot of fun watching him grow as a ball player and a person. He will be back on the field this summer which is always fun to watch
What a great old thread, lets fire it back up
18U Illinois Sparks
Jared Hippen - Iowa
Joe Debarnardis - Penn State Univ.
John Ruettiger - Arizona State
Jordan Sivertson - Southern Illnois
Kyle Stroup - Northern Illinois
Tony Zych - Louisville
ZJ Vanderwal - Wallace St. CC
Jake Hermsen - Northern Illinois
Mike Heesch - Nebraska
Mike McQuillan - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Brown - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Egan - Ohio Univ.
Brett Frantini - Northern Illinois
Brian Roberts - Univ. of Illinois
Chett Zeise - Univ. of Iowa
Chris Burgess - Central Mich.
Chris Wakefield - Northern Illinois
Corey Kimes - Univ. of Illinois
Andres Rodriquez - EKU
Brian Padove - Uncommitted
Bobby Lynes - Uncommitted
Steve Kaffel - Uncommitted
Matt Huck - Uncommitted
Should be ok for the ol' summer team im coaching this summer
18U Illinois Sparks
Jared Hippen - Iowa
Joe Debarnardis - Penn State Univ.
John Ruettiger - Arizona State
Jordan Sivertson - Southern Illnois
Kyle Stroup - Northern Illinois
Tony Zych - Louisville
ZJ Vanderwal - Wallace St. CC
Jake Hermsen - Northern Illinois
Mike Heesch - Nebraska
Mike McQuillan - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Brown - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Egan - Ohio Univ.
Brett Frantini - Northern Illinois
Brian Roberts - Univ. of Illinois
Chett Zeise - Univ. of Iowa
Chris Burgess - Central Mich.
Chris Wakefield - Northern Illinois
Corey Kimes - Univ. of Illinois
Andres Rodriquez - EKU
Brian Padove - Uncommitted
Bobby Lynes - Uncommitted
Steve Kaffel - Uncommitted
Matt Huck - Uncommitted
Should be ok for the ol' summer team im coaching this summer
Coach, did all of these players receive baseball scholarships from the schools that they will be attending?
I dont know the details of their scholarships, but yes all are committed to those schools
Coach Steele
Coach Steele
Committed does not mean a baseball scholarship. Be careful before making statements without checking out the facts.
Johnny,
not to butt in but if you re read his post it states he knows nothing of their scholarships, which he does not, and that they all have committed to play at the schools stated. Which they have.
not to butt in but if you re read his post it states he knows nothing of their scholarships, which he does not, and that they all have committed to play at the schools stated. Which they have.
I use to know a young enthusiastic coach just like Steeley.. Just wait, you take some shots and you'll end up like me....
Hey GOTWOOD4SALE
Can you repost that recent picture of me and my lovely bride by the team bus. You know the one, you posted it in another thread after I took some shots...(the Gaunlet), show Mr Steeley what he has to look forward to if he doesnt watch it.
Hey GOTWOOD4SALE
Can you repost that recent picture of me and my lovely bride by the team bus. You know the one, you posted it in another thread after I took some shots...(the Gaunlet), show Mr Steeley what he has to look forward to if he doesnt watch it.
kyle stroup is one large human being with a cannon arm i must say...and he's prob. also one of the nicest kids i know.
Rock out,,, good call..
Illinois Sparks 17u
here is how I'll be going out.. Always looking for a top shelf arm though..
Angelo Burrage OF-inf St Rita HS
Mike Birkner C Downers Grove South HS
Jon Carlson LHP-INF Rolling Meadoes HS
Jordan Coffey RHP OF Batavia HS
Pat Gannon LHP Brother Rice HS
Niko Gomez C St Ignatius HS
Pat Kaminska RHP Naperville Central HS
Brian Krolikowski RHP-OF Batavia HS
Jo Jo Maldonado MIF Oak Park River Forest
Zach McMahon RHP Inf Glenbrook North HS
Jake Nauman RHP Inf Naperville North HS
Justin Ringo INF-OF Stagg HS
Bobby Schuch OF-INF-RHP Brother Rice HS
Chris Savas Inf OF Willowbrook HS
Nick Ratajczak MIF Joliet Catholic HS
Nick Maentanis MIF-OF Glenbard North HS
Tim Drish OF INF Batavia HS
Chris Richter RHP Inf West Aurora HS
David Stachura OF Downers Grove North HS
Eric Zwintscher MIF OF Glenbard East HS
Illinois Sparks 17u
here is how I'll be going out.. Always looking for a top shelf arm though..
Angelo Burrage OF-inf St Rita HS
Mike Birkner C Downers Grove South HS
Jon Carlson LHP-INF Rolling Meadoes HS
Jordan Coffey RHP OF Batavia HS
Pat Gannon LHP Brother Rice HS
Niko Gomez C St Ignatius HS
Pat Kaminska RHP Naperville Central HS
Brian Krolikowski RHP-OF Batavia HS
Jo Jo Maldonado MIF Oak Park River Forest
Zach McMahon RHP Inf Glenbrook North HS
Jake Nauman RHP Inf Naperville North HS
Justin Ringo INF-OF Stagg HS
Bobby Schuch OF-INF-RHP Brother Rice HS
Chris Savas Inf OF Willowbrook HS
Nick Ratajczak MIF Joliet Catholic HS
Nick Maentanis MIF-OF Glenbard North HS
Tim Drish OF INF Batavia HS
Chris Richter RHP Inf West Aurora HS
David Stachura OF Downers Grove North HS
Eric Zwintscher MIF OF Glenbard East HS
another 17u Illinois Sparks Summer Team
Kevin Johnson RHP Mt Carmel HS
Justin Kopale MIF St Rita HS
Brandon Duplesis RHP Lockport HS
Tyler Willis OF-LHP Lockport HS
Alex Vitkauskas LHP St Rita HS
Mark Payton LHP OF St Rita HS
Sam Picchiotti MIF OF Oak Park River Forest HS
Trey Martin INF RHP Wheaton North HS
Jason McClain C Hinsdale Central HS
Dietrich Enns LHP Lincoln Way East
John Cisna LHP OF Lockport HS
Jack Murphy C RHP St Rita HS
Brandon Hohl MIF Lincolnway East HS
Kevin Jachim LHP 1b St Rita HS
Matt Highland MIF OF Herscher HS
Scott Mariner INF OF RHP St Rita HS
Kevin Johnson RHP Mt Carmel HS
Justin Kopale MIF St Rita HS
Brandon Duplesis RHP Lockport HS
Tyler Willis OF-LHP Lockport HS
Alex Vitkauskas LHP St Rita HS
Mark Payton LHP OF St Rita HS
Sam Picchiotti MIF OF Oak Park River Forest HS
Trey Martin INF RHP Wheaton North HS
Jason McClain C Hinsdale Central HS
Dietrich Enns LHP Lincoln Way East
John Cisna LHP OF Lockport HS
Jack Murphy C RHP St Rita HS
Brandon Hohl MIF Lincolnway East HS
Kevin Jachim LHP 1b St Rita HS
Matt Highland MIF OF Herscher HS
Scott Mariner INF OF RHP St Rita HS
How does that compare against the Hurricanes 17U team?
Not sure how it compares rrf8, the Canes are always a good team. I will put it to you this way though, if you ran the best of these two groups out through college, you would win a few games...
Agreed. It will definitely be fun to watch all of their progress.
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyWalker:
Committed does not mean a baseball scholarship. Be careful before making statements without checking out the facts.
All young men that I stated have signed National letters of intent for participation in Intercollegiate baseball at the respective institutions listed.
Thanks
Coach,
The following is theText of the National Letter of Intent. Pay close attention to the second paragraph and as I said in my earlier post, be careful and check your sources before making a blanket statement.
Initial Enrollment in Four-Year Institution. This NLI is applicable only to prospective student-athletes who will be entering four-year institutions for the first time as full-time students. It is also permissible for 4-2-4 transfers who are graduating from a junior college as outlined in Provision 8b to sign the NLI. With the exception of midyear junior college transfer students in football (who must graduate at midyear for this NLI to be valid), no prospective student-athlete enrolling at midyear shall sign an NLI.
Financial Aid Requirement. At the time I sign this NLI, I must receive a written offer of athletics financial aid applicable for the entire 2008-2009 academic year from the institution named in this document. The offer shall list the terms and conditions of the award, including the amount and duration of the financial aid. (A midyear football junior college transfer must receive a written offer of athletics financial aid applicable for the remainder of the 2007-2008 academic year.) In order for this NLI to be valid, my parent/legal guardian and I must sign the NLI and the offer of athletics aid prior to submission to the institution named in this document, and any other stated conditions must also be met. If the conditions stated on the financial aid offer are not met, this NLI shall be declared null and void. An institution submitting an improper offer of athletics aid may be in violation of the NLI program and subject to sanctions.
Professional Sports Contract. If I sign a professional sports contract in the sport in which I signed the NLI, I remain bound by the provisions of the NLI in all other sports, even if NCAA rules prohibit the institution named in this document from providing me with athletics financial aid.
Provisions of Letter Satisfied.
One-year Attendance Requirement Met. The terms of this NLI shall be satisfied if I attend the institution named in this document for at least one academic year as a full-time student.
Junior College Graduation. The terms of this NLI shall be satisfied if I graduate from junior college after signing this NLI either while in high school or during my first year of full-time enrollment in junior college, provided it is not the year I am scheduled to graduate from junior college.
Basic Penalty. I understand that if I do not attend the institution named in this document for one full academic year, and I enroll in another institution participating in the NLI program, I may not represent the latter institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until I have completed one full academic year in residence at the latter institution. Further, I understand I shall be charged with the loss of one season of intercollegiate athletics eligibility in all sports, except as otherwise provided in this NLI. This is in addition to any eligibility expended at any institution.
Prospective student-athletes who will participate in football are prohibited from signing an NLI during the early signing period. A student who signs an NLI during the early period in a sport other than football will be ineligible for practice and competition in the sport of football during the student’s first year of enrollment at an NLI member institution, and shall forfeit one season of eligibility in the sport of football. In circumstances where a student’s primary sport is not football, but the student anticipates participating in football, the student should delay signing an NLI until either the football signing period or during the regular signing period for all other sports.
Release Request Form. An NLI Release Request Form may be obtained and completed in the event I wish to be released from my NLI obligation. I must sign the form, along with my parent/legal guardian, and the Director of Athletics of the institution named in this document. A Release Request Form may be obtained from the NLI website at www.national-letter.org/documents/.
Authority to Release. A coach is not authorized to void, cancel or provide any form of release to this NLI.
Extent of the Release Request Form. The provisions of the Release Request Form shall apply to all NLI participating institutions and shall not be conditional or selective by institution.
Appeal Process. I understand the NLI Policy & Review Committee has been authorized to issue interpretations, settle disputes and consider petitions for a complete release from the provisions of this NLI when extenuating circumstances are determined to exist and the signing institution denies my request for complete release. I further understand the Policy & Review Committee’s decision may be appealed to the NLI Appeals Committee, whose decision shall be final and binding.
Letter Becomes Null and Void. This NLI shall be declared null and void if any of the following occur:
Admissions Requirement. This NLI shall be declared null and void if the institution named in this document notifies me in writing that I have been denied admission or, by the opening day of classes in the fall 2008 has failed to provide me with written notice of admission, provided I have submitted a complete admission application.
It is presumed that I am eligible for admission and financial aid until information is submitted to the contrary. Thus, it is mandatory for me, upon request, to provide a transcript of my previous academic record and an application for admission to the institution named in this document.
If I am eligible for admission, but the institution named in this document defers admission to a subsequent term, the NLI shall be rendered null and void. However, if I defer my admission, this NLI remains binding.
Eligibility Requirements. This NLI shall be declared null and void if, by the opening day of classes in the fall of 2008, I have not met (a) the institution’s requirements for admissions, (b) its academic requirements for financial aid to athletes, or (c) the NCAA requirements for freshman financial aid (NCAA Bylaw 14.3) or the junior college transfer requirements.
If I become a nonqualifier (per NCAA Bylaw 14.3), this NLI shall be rendered null and void.
If I am a midyear football junior college transfer, the NLI becomes null and void if I fail to graduate from junior college at midyear. The NLI remains binding for the following fall term if I graduated, was eligible for admission and financial aid and met the junior college transfer requirements for competition for the winter or spring term, but chose to delay my admission.
One-Year Absence. This NLI shall be declared null and void if I have not attended any institution for at least one academic year (or attended an institution such as a preparatory school or junior college that does not participate in the NLI program), provided my request for athletics financial aid for a subsequent fall term is denied by the signing institution. I may still apply this provision if I initially enrolled in an NLI member institution but have been absent for at least one academic year. To apply this provision, I must file with the appropriate conference office a statement from the Director of Athletics at the institution named in this document that such financial aid will not be available for the requested fall term.
Service in the U.S. Armed Forces. Church Mission. This NLI shall be declared null and void if I serve on active duty with the armed forces of the United States or on an official church mission for at least twelve (12) months.
Discontinued Sport. This NLI shall be null and void if the institution named in the document discontinues my sport.
Recruiting Rules Violation. If the institution (or a representative of its athletics interests) named in this document violated NCAA or conference rules while recruiting me (as found through the NCAA or conference enforcement process or acknowledged by the institution), this NLI shall be declared null and void if the violation results in my need for eligibility reinstatement by the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff.
Only One Valid NLI Permitted. I understand that I may sign only one valid NLI, except as listed below.
Subsequent Signing Year. If this NLI is rendered null and void under Provision 7, I remain free to enroll in any institution of my choice where I am admissible and shall be permitted to sign another NLI in a subsequent signing year.
Junior College Exception. If I signed a NLI while in high school or during my first year of full-time enrollment in junior college, I may sign another NLI in the signing year in which I am scheduled to graduate from junior college. If I graduate, the second NLI shall be binding on me; otherwise, the original NLI, if not already satisfied, shall remain valid.
Recruiting Ban After Signing. I understand all participating conferences and institutions are obligated to respect my signing and shall cease to recruit me upon my signing this NLI. I shall notify any recruiter who contacts me that I have signed an NLI. Once I enroll in the institution named in this document, the NLI Recruiting Ban is no longer in effect, and I shall be governed by applicable NCAA recruiting bylaws.
Institutional Signatures Required Prior to Submission. This NLI must be signed and dated by the Director of Athletics (or his/her authorized representative) before submission in duplicate to me and my parent/legal guardian for our signatures. This NLI may be mailed prior to the initial signing date. When an NLI is issued prior to the initial signing date, the “date issued” shall be the initial NLI signing date and not the date that the NLI was signed or mailed by the institution.
Parent/Guardian Signature Required. My parent or legal guardian is required to sign this NLI if I am less than 21 years of age at the time of my signing, regardless of my marital status. If I do not have a living parent or a legal guardian, the person who is acting in the capacity of a guardian may seek permission from the NLI Policy & Review Committee to sign this NLI.
Falsification of NLI. If I falsify any part of this NLI, or if I have knowledge that my parent or guardian falsified any part of this NLI, I understand I shall forfeit the first year of my athletics eligibility at any NLI participating institution as outlined in Provision 4.
14-Day Signing Deadline. If my parent/legal guardian and I fail to sign this NLI and the accompanying offer of athletics financial aid within 14 days after the date of issuance, it will be invalid. In that event, another NLI may be issued within the appropriate signing period. (NOTE: During the early signing period, all NLIs must be signed between the dates of November 14-21, 2007.)
Institutional Filing Deadline. This NLI must be filed with the appropriate conference by the institution named in this document within 21 days after the date of final signature or it will be invalid. In that event, another NLI may be issued within the appropriate signing period. (NOTE: An early signing period NLI may not be reissued outside the early signing dates of November 14-21, 2007.)
No Additions or Deletions Allowed to NLI. No additions or deletions may be made to this NLI or the Release Request Form.
Official Time for Validity. This NLI shall be considered officially signed on the final date of signature by myself or my parent/legal guardian. If no time of day is listed, the time of 11:59 p.m. will be presumed.
Statute of Limitations. This NLI is in full force and effect for a period of four (4) years, commencing with the date I sign this NLI.
Nullification of Other Agreements. My signature on this NLI nullifies any agreements, **** or otherwise, which would release me from the conditions stated within this NLI.
Coaching Changes. I understand I have signed this NLI with the institution and not for a particular sport or individual. If the coach leaves the institution or the sports program (or is not retained), I remain bound by the provisions of this NLI. I understand it is not uncommon for a coach to leave his or her coaching position.
Coaching Contact Prohibited at Time of Signing. In accordance with NCAA Bylaws 13.1.6.7 and 13.1.6.7.1, a coach or institutional representative may not hand deliver this NLI off campus or be present off campus at the time I sign it. This NLI may be delivered by express mail, courier service, regular mail, e-mail or facsimile machine. An NLI transmitted to an institution by facsimile machine or electronically shall be considered valid.
The following is theText of the National Letter of Intent. Pay close attention to the second paragraph and as I said in my earlier post, be careful and check your sources before making a blanket statement.
Initial Enrollment in Four-Year Institution. This NLI is applicable only to prospective student-athletes who will be entering four-year institutions for the first time as full-time students. It is also permissible for 4-2-4 transfers who are graduating from a junior college as outlined in Provision 8b to sign the NLI. With the exception of midyear junior college transfer students in football (who must graduate at midyear for this NLI to be valid), no prospective student-athlete enrolling at midyear shall sign an NLI.
Financial Aid Requirement. At the time I sign this NLI, I must receive a written offer of athletics financial aid applicable for the entire 2008-2009 academic year from the institution named in this document. The offer shall list the terms and conditions of the award, including the amount and duration of the financial aid. (A midyear football junior college transfer must receive a written offer of athletics financial aid applicable for the remainder of the 2007-2008 academic year.) In order for this NLI to be valid, my parent/legal guardian and I must sign the NLI and the offer of athletics aid prior to submission to the institution named in this document, and any other stated conditions must also be met. If the conditions stated on the financial aid offer are not met, this NLI shall be declared null and void. An institution submitting an improper offer of athletics aid may be in violation of the NLI program and subject to sanctions.
Professional Sports Contract. If I sign a professional sports contract in the sport in which I signed the NLI, I remain bound by the provisions of the NLI in all other sports, even if NCAA rules prohibit the institution named in this document from providing me with athletics financial aid.
Provisions of Letter Satisfied.
One-year Attendance Requirement Met. The terms of this NLI shall be satisfied if I attend the institution named in this document for at least one academic year as a full-time student.
Junior College Graduation. The terms of this NLI shall be satisfied if I graduate from junior college after signing this NLI either while in high school or during my first year of full-time enrollment in junior college, provided it is not the year I am scheduled to graduate from junior college.
Basic Penalty. I understand that if I do not attend the institution named in this document for one full academic year, and I enroll in another institution participating in the NLI program, I may not represent the latter institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until I have completed one full academic year in residence at the latter institution. Further, I understand I shall be charged with the loss of one season of intercollegiate athletics eligibility in all sports, except as otherwise provided in this NLI. This is in addition to any eligibility expended at any institution.
Prospective student-athletes who will participate in football are prohibited from signing an NLI during the early signing period. A student who signs an NLI during the early period in a sport other than football will be ineligible for practice and competition in the sport of football during the student’s first year of enrollment at an NLI member institution, and shall forfeit one season of eligibility in the sport of football. In circumstances where a student’s primary sport is not football, but the student anticipates participating in football, the student should delay signing an NLI until either the football signing period or during the regular signing period for all other sports.
Release Request Form. An NLI Release Request Form may be obtained and completed in the event I wish to be released from my NLI obligation. I must sign the form, along with my parent/legal guardian, and the Director of Athletics of the institution named in this document. A Release Request Form may be obtained from the NLI website at www.national-letter.org/documents/.
Authority to Release. A coach is not authorized to void, cancel or provide any form of release to this NLI.
Extent of the Release Request Form. The provisions of the Release Request Form shall apply to all NLI participating institutions and shall not be conditional or selective by institution.
Appeal Process. I understand the NLI Policy & Review Committee has been authorized to issue interpretations, settle disputes and consider petitions for a complete release from the provisions of this NLI when extenuating circumstances are determined to exist and the signing institution denies my request for complete release. I further understand the Policy & Review Committee’s decision may be appealed to the NLI Appeals Committee, whose decision shall be final and binding.
Letter Becomes Null and Void. This NLI shall be declared null and void if any of the following occur:
Admissions Requirement. This NLI shall be declared null and void if the institution named in this document notifies me in writing that I have been denied admission or, by the opening day of classes in the fall 2008 has failed to provide me with written notice of admission, provided I have submitted a complete admission application.
It is presumed that I am eligible for admission and financial aid until information is submitted to the contrary. Thus, it is mandatory for me, upon request, to provide a transcript of my previous academic record and an application for admission to the institution named in this document.
If I am eligible for admission, but the institution named in this document defers admission to a subsequent term, the NLI shall be rendered null and void. However, if I defer my admission, this NLI remains binding.
Eligibility Requirements. This NLI shall be declared null and void if, by the opening day of classes in the fall of 2008, I have not met (a) the institution’s requirements for admissions, (b) its academic requirements for financial aid to athletes, or (c) the NCAA requirements for freshman financial aid (NCAA Bylaw 14.3) or the junior college transfer requirements.
If I become a nonqualifier (per NCAA Bylaw 14.3), this NLI shall be rendered null and void.
If I am a midyear football junior college transfer, the NLI becomes null and void if I fail to graduate from junior college at midyear. The NLI remains binding for the following fall term if I graduated, was eligible for admission and financial aid and met the junior college transfer requirements for competition for the winter or spring term, but chose to delay my admission.
One-Year Absence. This NLI shall be declared null and void if I have not attended any institution for at least one academic year (or attended an institution such as a preparatory school or junior college that does not participate in the NLI program), provided my request for athletics financial aid for a subsequent fall term is denied by the signing institution. I may still apply this provision if I initially enrolled in an NLI member institution but have been absent for at least one academic year. To apply this provision, I must file with the appropriate conference office a statement from the Director of Athletics at the institution named in this document that such financial aid will not be available for the requested fall term.
Service in the U.S. Armed Forces. Church Mission. This NLI shall be declared null and void if I serve on active duty with the armed forces of the United States or on an official church mission for at least twelve (12) months.
Discontinued Sport. This NLI shall be null and void if the institution named in the document discontinues my sport.
Recruiting Rules Violation. If the institution (or a representative of its athletics interests) named in this document violated NCAA or conference rules while recruiting me (as found through the NCAA or conference enforcement process or acknowledged by the institution), this NLI shall be declared null and void if the violation results in my need for eligibility reinstatement by the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff.
Only One Valid NLI Permitted. I understand that I may sign only one valid NLI, except as listed below.
Subsequent Signing Year. If this NLI is rendered null and void under Provision 7, I remain free to enroll in any institution of my choice where I am admissible and shall be permitted to sign another NLI in a subsequent signing year.
Junior College Exception. If I signed a NLI while in high school or during my first year of full-time enrollment in junior college, I may sign another NLI in the signing year in which I am scheduled to graduate from junior college. If I graduate, the second NLI shall be binding on me; otherwise, the original NLI, if not already satisfied, shall remain valid.
Recruiting Ban After Signing. I understand all participating conferences and institutions are obligated to respect my signing and shall cease to recruit me upon my signing this NLI. I shall notify any recruiter who contacts me that I have signed an NLI. Once I enroll in the institution named in this document, the NLI Recruiting Ban is no longer in effect, and I shall be governed by applicable NCAA recruiting bylaws.
Institutional Signatures Required Prior to Submission. This NLI must be signed and dated by the Director of Athletics (or his/her authorized representative) before submission in duplicate to me and my parent/legal guardian for our signatures. This NLI may be mailed prior to the initial signing date. When an NLI is issued prior to the initial signing date, the “date issued” shall be the initial NLI signing date and not the date that the NLI was signed or mailed by the institution.
Parent/Guardian Signature Required. My parent or legal guardian is required to sign this NLI if I am less than 21 years of age at the time of my signing, regardless of my marital status. If I do not have a living parent or a legal guardian, the person who is acting in the capacity of a guardian may seek permission from the NLI Policy & Review Committee to sign this NLI.
Falsification of NLI. If I falsify any part of this NLI, or if I have knowledge that my parent or guardian falsified any part of this NLI, I understand I shall forfeit the first year of my athletics eligibility at any NLI participating institution as outlined in Provision 4.
14-Day Signing Deadline. If my parent/legal guardian and I fail to sign this NLI and the accompanying offer of athletics financial aid within 14 days after the date of issuance, it will be invalid. In that event, another NLI may be issued within the appropriate signing period. (NOTE: During the early signing period, all NLIs must be signed between the dates of November 14-21, 2007.)
Institutional Filing Deadline. This NLI must be filed with the appropriate conference by the institution named in this document within 21 days after the date of final signature or it will be invalid. In that event, another NLI may be issued within the appropriate signing period. (NOTE: An early signing period NLI may not be reissued outside the early signing dates of November 14-21, 2007.)
No Additions or Deletions Allowed to NLI. No additions or deletions may be made to this NLI or the Release Request Form.
Official Time for Validity. This NLI shall be considered officially signed on the final date of signature by myself or my parent/legal guardian. If no time of day is listed, the time of 11:59 p.m. will be presumed.
Statute of Limitations. This NLI is in full force and effect for a period of four (4) years, commencing with the date I sign this NLI.
Nullification of Other Agreements. My signature on this NLI nullifies any agreements, **** or otherwise, which would release me from the conditions stated within this NLI.
Coaching Changes. I understand I have signed this NLI with the institution and not for a particular sport or individual. If the coach leaves the institution or the sports program (or is not retained), I remain bound by the provisions of this NLI. I understand it is not uncommon for a coach to leave his or her coaching position.
Coaching Contact Prohibited at Time of Signing. In accordance with NCAA Bylaws 13.1.6.7 and 13.1.6.7.1, a coach or institutional representative may not hand deliver this NLI off campus or be present off campus at the time I sign it. This NLI may be delivered by express mail, courier service, regular mail, e-mail or facsimile machine. An NLI transmitted to an institution by facsimile machine or electronically shall be considered valid.
Blah, blah, blah
Why does it always happen?, Coach Steely was letting everyone know where is players are going, and everyone should be proud except ONE person who has to have a problem.
Springfield Statesmen 17U
www.springfieldstatesmen.com
Wes Neece - SS -Lincoln
Chaser Todd - SS/RHP - Jacksonville
Derek Crouch - OF - Lockport
Buddy Sexton - C - Jacksonville
Nino Mattera - OF/LHP - Chatham Glenwood
Josh Glick - OF/LHP - Lincolnwood
Nick Jachino -LHP - Mahomet
Mike Fitzgerald -C -Rochester
Tyler Ely - RHP - Sacred Heart Griffin
Brandon Donnelly - INF/RHP - Williamsville
Brett Jackson - RHP/INF - Rochester
Tristen Molumby -RHP - Chatham Glenwood
Bob Schroeder -OF - Mahomet
Springfield Statesmen 17U
www.springfieldstatesmen.com
Wes Neece - SS -Lincoln
Chaser Todd - SS/RHP - Jacksonville
Derek Crouch - OF - Lockport
Buddy Sexton - C - Jacksonville
Nino Mattera - OF/LHP - Chatham Glenwood
Josh Glick - OF/LHP - Lincolnwood
Nick Jachino -LHP - Mahomet
Mike Fitzgerald -C -Rochester
Tyler Ely - RHP - Sacred Heart Griffin
Brandon Donnelly - INF/RHP - Williamsville
Brett Jackson - RHP/INF - Rochester
Tristen Molumby -RHP - Chatham Glenwood
Bob Schroeder -OF - Mahomet
Just trying to be accurate. If you post, you should be accurate with your information. That's my only point. Others see this information and take it for gospel. That's why it needs to be facts not fiction.
Brutal just brutal. This thread has been cursed with BS like that for a while now.
JW - He never said anything other than they are committed to the schools listed. I am sure Coach knows all the details but I am sure he feels it is not his place to tell everyone how much a particlar player received etc...
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyWalker:
Just trying to be accurate. If you post, you should be accurate with your information. That's my only point. Others see this information and take it for gospel. That's why it needs to be facts not fiction.
Um ok, make sure everyone prints that off so they have their copies of an NLI. Johnny, thank you for helping us.
Now what I was saying was all of those kids, signed their NLIs or are committed to playing at that school. As far as I know, everyone of them signed an NLI. They are all listed on incoming lists of the schools, and schools cant publish that information unless they have signed and NLI and are receiving scholarship.
But, one or two of the kids might be a recruited walk-on. But that is where they are going. Regardless it is a pretty good team
Good talk, see you out there
NO absolutely not, Sorry about that
They are in. The Oak Forest guys are tough nuts.
Let me list all of the 18Us
Jared Hippen - Iowa
Joe Debarnardis - Penn State Univ.
John Ruettiger - Arizona State
Jordan Sivertson - Southern Illnois
Kyle Stroup - Northern Illinois
Tony Zych - Louisville
ZJ Vanderwal - Wallace St. CC
Jake Hermsen - Northern Illinois
Mike Heesch - Nebraska
Mike McQuillan - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Brown - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Egan - Ohio Univ.
Brett Frantini - Northern Illinois
Brian Roberts - Univ. of Illinois
Chett Zeise - Univ. of Iowa
Chris Burgess - Central Mich.
Chris Wakefield - Northern Illinois
Corey Kimes - Univ. of Illinois
Andres Rodriquez - EKU
Ron Czarnecki - Uncommitted
Joe Longawa - Uncommitted
Brian Padove - Uncommitted
Bobby Lynes - Uncommitted
Steve Kaffel - Uncommitted
Matt Huck - Uncommitted
Joe Cesario - Uncommitted
Matt Toomey - Uncommitted
Mike Frigo - Western Michigan
James Dawson - Uncommitted
Billy Zein - Uncommitted
Deigo Martinez - Uncommitted
Marty Dzik - Uncommitted
I am shocked that some of these guys are not committed yet but would not be at all suprised if they are after this weekend. Especially the Oak Forest guys
They are in. The Oak Forest guys are tough nuts.
Let me list all of the 18Us
Jared Hippen - Iowa
Joe Debarnardis - Penn State Univ.
John Ruettiger - Arizona State
Jordan Sivertson - Southern Illnois
Kyle Stroup - Northern Illinois
Tony Zych - Louisville
ZJ Vanderwal - Wallace St. CC
Jake Hermsen - Northern Illinois
Mike Heesch - Nebraska
Mike McQuillan - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Brown - Univ. of Iowa
Nick Egan - Ohio Univ.
Brett Frantini - Northern Illinois
Brian Roberts - Univ. of Illinois
Chett Zeise - Univ. of Iowa
Chris Burgess - Central Mich.
Chris Wakefield - Northern Illinois
Corey Kimes - Univ. of Illinois
Andres Rodriquez - EKU
Ron Czarnecki - Uncommitted
Joe Longawa - Uncommitted
Brian Padove - Uncommitted
Bobby Lynes - Uncommitted
Steve Kaffel - Uncommitted
Matt Huck - Uncommitted
Joe Cesario - Uncommitted
Matt Toomey - Uncommitted
Mike Frigo - Western Michigan
James Dawson - Uncommitted
Billy Zein - Uncommitted
Deigo Martinez - Uncommitted
Marty Dzik - Uncommitted
I am shocked that some of these guys are not committed yet but would not be at all suprised if they are after this weekend. Especially the Oak Forest guys
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Here ya' go SPARKY...
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They've got a Preseason Special going on these now...you may want to pick up a few!
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You know SPARKY...you gotta' be real careful about who you pick up hitchin' a ride on this board!
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Here ya' go SPARKY...
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They've got a Preseason Special going on these now...you may want to pick up a few!
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You know SPARKY...you gotta' be real careful about who you pick up hitchin' a ride on this board!
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you have a pm ofbengals08
Sparky
How was it decided how those two 17u teams would be split up ? Thats a load of talent
How was it decided how those two 17u teams would be split up ? Thats a load of talent
For the most part both groups played out in the Fall with us. I simply put a good guy on this team and a good guy on that one. No use having two D1 third baseman on the same team taking innings from each other. At seasons end we will run one team out together. I just need a little more pitching.. 
BC,
Glad to see you got a number of our guys on board for the summer. You should push Schreiber a little, he's every bit as good as Wakefield and Stroup.
Glad to see none of them ended up with other teams.
Glad to see you got a number of our guys on board for the summer. You should push Schreiber a little, he's every bit as good as Wakefield and Stroup.
Glad to see none of them ended up with other teams.
Andy,
Thank You,
and to clarify my last post was concerning our 17under. Those kids played out with us in the Fall. I will make it real clear that we for the last couple yrs have combined a little in the Summer.. As the Blazers only go out in the Fall as of now. As of Fall Ball, its always a good battle and we look forward to more this Fall. We will be posting our Fall schedule very soon....
Thank You,
and to clarify my last post was concerning our 17under. Those kids played out with us in the Fall. I will make it real clear that we for the last couple yrs have combined a little in the Summer.. As the Blazers only go out in the Fall as of now. As of Fall Ball, its always a good battle and we look forward to more this Fall. We will be posting our Fall schedule very soon....
As of right now this is what we have not including Luke and Eric Bainer who have both signed with Army. They will only be with us for a few weeks due to having leave for basic training. We are in the talks to pick up a D1 SS from KY as well as 1 or 2 very high level pitchers from Lexington Ky. Webb and Cox will most likely go high in the draft so we might not see them.
Daniel Webb RHP Heath KY - Kentucky
Sean Bouthilette RHP Elizabethtown KY - Kentucky
Travis Isaak IF Carlyle - Lincoln Trail
Jordan Williams C Christian Co. KY - 09
Zack Cox 3B/P PRP - Arkansas
Alex Wood RHP Crittenden Co. KY - 09
Lucas Hileman OF Anna-Jonesboro - Baylor
Brad Drust LHP Cartervile - 09
Zach Ellliott C Vienna - Rend Lake CC
Austin Montgomery C/OF Marion - 09
Luke Partridge 3B Anna-Jonesboro - 09
Christian Cummins IF Harrisburg - 09
Tanner Bushue RHP South Central - 09
Dominic Patterozzi RHP Edwardsville - John A. Logan
Tyler Wiesemeyer OF Triad - Heartland
Bryn Edwards RHP Carterville - Unsigned
Cale Wine RHP Marissa - Unsigned
Nathan Dorris LHP Marion - 2009
Caine Cloe RHP/C Shelbyville - 2010
Reid Roper If/RHP Harrisburg - 2010
Daniel Webb RHP Heath KY - Kentucky
Sean Bouthilette RHP Elizabethtown KY - Kentucky
Travis Isaak IF Carlyle - Lincoln Trail
Jordan Williams C Christian Co. KY - 09
Zack Cox 3B/P PRP - Arkansas
Alex Wood RHP Crittenden Co. KY - 09
Lucas Hileman OF Anna-Jonesboro - Baylor
Brad Drust LHP Cartervile - 09
Zach Ellliott C Vienna - Rend Lake CC
Austin Montgomery C/OF Marion - 09
Luke Partridge 3B Anna-Jonesboro - 09
Christian Cummins IF Harrisburg - 09
Tanner Bushue RHP South Central - 09
Dominic Patterozzi RHP Edwardsville - John A. Logan
Tyler Wiesemeyer OF Triad - Heartland
Bryn Edwards RHP Carterville - Unsigned
Cale Wine RHP Marissa - Unsigned
Nathan Dorris LHP Marion - 2009
Caine Cloe RHP/C Shelbyville - 2010
Reid Roper If/RHP Harrisburg - 2010
SI - Love the Montgomery kid any way you would consider a trade, LOL
Austin is going to open some eyes. He is a physical specimen and #1 in his class. Ivy leaguers will be all over him unless a biggie gets him. Give me a Santana like pitcher and we have a deal.
Okay paperwork on the way, will see you guys soon.
April Fools...
MN MOM, I'll help you with the split too...lol..
Anyway, heres how our 18u team shaped up for the Summer.
Mike Heesch LHP - Prairie Ridge/UIC
Bryan Roberts RHP - Benet/U of Illinois
Kyle Stroup RHP - Grant/NIU
Tony Zych RHP/MIF - St Rita/U of Louisville
Corey Kimes LHP - Ottawa H/U of Illinois
Nick Brown RHP/1b- Wheaton WS/U of Iowa
Jordan Sivertson RHP/OF -Carmel/Southern Illinois
John Ruettiger OF/LHP - JCA/Arizona State
Chris Wakefield RHP/Utility - GA HS/NIU
Jared Hippen LHP - Rock Falls/U of Iowa
Joey Debarnardis 3B/RHP- Lake Zurich/Penn State
Will Strack RHP - Sycamore HS/U of Illinois
Geoff Rowan C/RHP - Nequa Valley/Northwestern
Jake Hermson LHP/OF- Ws HS/NIU
Bobby Lyne RHP - Carmel/undecided
Brandon House OF - Marion Catholic/NIU
Chett Zeise MIF - WS HS/U of Iowa
Sam Munson MIF - WS HS/Florida International
Mike McQuillan MIF/Utility Brother Rice/U of Iowa
Brett Frantini C - Monooka /NIU
Nick Egan RHP - Wheaton WS/Ohio University
Matthew Huck - RHP St Francis
Chris Burgess - RHP St Charles East/Central Mich
Stick the 17s up later along with our other 18u team.
Hope everyone has a safe Summer!
Anyway, heres how our 18u team shaped up for the Summer.
Mike Heesch LHP - Prairie Ridge/UIC
Bryan Roberts RHP - Benet/U of Illinois
Kyle Stroup RHP - Grant/NIU
Tony Zych RHP/MIF - St Rita/U of Louisville
Corey Kimes LHP - Ottawa H/U of Illinois
Nick Brown RHP/1b- Wheaton WS/U of Iowa
Jordan Sivertson RHP/OF -Carmel/Southern Illinois
John Ruettiger OF/LHP - JCA/Arizona State
Chris Wakefield RHP/Utility - GA HS/NIU
Jared Hippen LHP - Rock Falls/U of Iowa
Joey Debarnardis 3B/RHP- Lake Zurich/Penn State
Will Strack RHP - Sycamore HS/U of Illinois
Geoff Rowan C/RHP - Nequa Valley/Northwestern
Jake Hermson LHP/OF- Ws HS/NIU
Bobby Lyne RHP - Carmel/undecided
Brandon House OF - Marion Catholic/NIU
Chett Zeise MIF - WS HS/U of Iowa
Sam Munson MIF - WS HS/Florida International
Mike McQuillan MIF/Utility Brother Rice/U of Iowa
Brett Frantini C - Monooka /NIU
Nick Egan RHP - Wheaton WS/Ohio University
Matthew Huck - RHP St Francis
Chris Burgess - RHP St Charles East/Central Mich
Stick the 17s up later along with our other 18u team.
Hope everyone has a safe Summer!
Illinois Sparks 17U beat Top Tier 17U 10-4 in championship game of best of the Midwest Tourney in Bloomington Indiana today . Great way to start off the summer travel season .
Surprised any games got off today, thought there were flash floods and tornado's in Indiana area last night...........who pitched for either team?
WOW – sounds like BIG BILL and the Sparks are off to a great start! Good-stuff!
OPRF did well this year. Where did their boys end-up? What teams, if any, are the OPRF boys playing on this summer (besides the high school summer-ball)?
Oh, BTW, Congrats to Leddy and the Huskies for a great 2008 season, I don’t think anyone had them picked to finish in the top 10. Well Done Boys!
OPRF did well this year. Where did their boys end-up? What teams, if any, are the OPRF boys playing on this summer (besides the high school summer-ball)?
Oh, BTW, Congrats to Leddy and the Huskies for a great 2008 season, I don’t think anyone had them picked to finish in the top 10. Well Done Boys!
who pitched for Top Tier vs Sparks???
Any standouts on T.T or Sparks??
Just got an update from the Metrodome in Minn
ILL Sparks 17 --3
Midwest Blazers 0
in second inning
Maldonado staying red hot --homers into left field stands .
Naumman on the mound
this is wood bat tourney
ILL Sparks 17 --3
Midwest Blazers 0
in second inning
Maldonado staying red hot --homers into left field stands .
Naumman on the mound
this is wood bat tourney
Final Score from the Metrodome
Ill Sparks 17U--9
Midwest Blzrs-- 2
Ill Sparks 17U--9
Midwest Blzrs-- 2
Jason Ormond, Whitney Young High School (Class of 2009) is playing for USA Athletes International representing the United States as a player and ambassador in the 2008 Torneo Citta di Rimini Baseball Tournament in Rimini, Italy. The coaches are David Vince of Clearwater High School and Tracy Paulton of Pinnellas Park High School. Both high schools are in Florida.
Coach Vince has 421 career wins with coaching experience on the international, college, high school level and has been a ten time coach of the year recipient. His record includes 10 district champion teams, 8 district runner-up teams, two state final four teams, 1 state runner-up team, and 1 college conference championship. He has coached baseball in Holland, Spain, Czech Republic, Australia, Sweden, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii. The roster includes players from Florida, Illinois, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Coach Paulton is the Pitching Coach at Pinellas Park High School. His experience includes being the assistant coach at nationally ranked Seminole High School, 6 years as the assistant coach at Countryside High School, where he worked under former major leaguer, Darnell Coles. He also has 10 years of playing experience above the high school level (college, semi-pro), and has worked baseball camps for Florida State, and All-Star Baseball. He is also the owner operator of Super Skill Baseball Academy in Florida.
The team will meet and travel from New York Kennedy International Airport to Rome, Italy on July 8 and then travels north to Rimini which is the tournament venue, located on the Adriatic coast 200 miles south of Venice. The tournament is hosted by the Rimini Pirates Baseball Club, Serie A1 of the Italian Professional Baseball League. The USA Athletes organization was established in 1991 and provides athletes the opportunity to experience international competition as well as the history and culture of another country. The 16 man roster team is scheduled to play the 18-U Italian National Team. USA Team Athletes must sign a release as the sponsoring organization retains all television and video rights.
After playing baseball Italian style, the team will visit Milan and Florence before returning to the United States on July 17, 2008.
Visit www.usaai.org
Coach Vince has 421 career wins with coaching experience on the international, college, high school level and has been a ten time coach of the year recipient. His record includes 10 district champion teams, 8 district runner-up teams, two state final four teams, 1 state runner-up team, and 1 college conference championship. He has coached baseball in Holland, Spain, Czech Republic, Australia, Sweden, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii. The roster includes players from Florida, Illinois, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Coach Paulton is the Pitching Coach at Pinellas Park High School. His experience includes being the assistant coach at nationally ranked Seminole High School, 6 years as the assistant coach at Countryside High School, where he worked under former major leaguer, Darnell Coles. He also has 10 years of playing experience above the high school level (college, semi-pro), and has worked baseball camps for Florida State, and All-Star Baseball. He is also the owner operator of Super Skill Baseball Academy in Florida.
The team will meet and travel from New York Kennedy International Airport to Rome, Italy on July 8 and then travels north to Rimini which is the tournament venue, located on the Adriatic coast 200 miles south of Venice. The tournament is hosted by the Rimini Pirates Baseball Club, Serie A1 of the Italian Professional Baseball League. The USA Athletes organization was established in 1991 and provides athletes the opportunity to experience international competition as well as the history and culture of another country. The 16 man roster team is scheduled to play the 18-U Italian National Team. USA Team Athletes must sign a release as the sponsoring organization retains all television and video rights.
After playing baseball Italian style, the team will visit Milan and Florence before returning to the United States on July 17, 2008.
Visit www.usaai.org
Illinois Sparks 5
Orlando Scorpions 5
called a tie after 7
at Perfect Game invitational in the Metrodome in MN
Don't have many details -- Jordan Coffey started and went 4 innings, 1 ER, 2 hits, 5 K; Mike Kane went 3-3 with 2 doubles; Nikko Gomez had a triple and a double
Orlando Scorpions 5
called a tie after 7
at Perfect Game invitational in the Metrodome in MN
Don't have many details -- Jordan Coffey started and went 4 innings, 1 ER, 2 hits, 5 K; Mike Kane went 3-3 with 2 doubles; Nikko Gomez had a triple and a double
Anyone know how the Sparks (Murphy) fared vs. a talented East Cobb Braves team in MN?
I see that Coach Paulton was assistant coach at Seminole High School. Was the head coach named Gangler? (just kidding).
Norwood showed some excellent arms yesterday while defeating Glenview's new legion team. Josh West, Mike Fiala, and Robert Kennedy threw smoke from the right side. Kevin Edwards was outstanding from the left side. Ryan Lessner was tenacious as always.
Smokey...
Miss ya man!
Hope things are well for you and yours..
We just got back from the Metredome in Mn and played 4 games. It looks as if a couple were posted. We only post wins I notice..lol..
We lost yesterday to a very good East Cobb Braves team 5-2
Came back today with nice win over the MN Starz 4-2
Great competition and all I saw were smiles for three days. Thanks to the coaches that allowed your guys to come along. It will be a memory they wont soon forget. Thanks you PG for having us. Good stuff for me too!
Smokey, we have a couple dandys from OPRF, Picci and Jo JO.
Miss ya man!
Hope things are well for you and yours..
We just got back from the Metredome in Mn and played 4 games. It looks as if a couple were posted. We only post wins I notice..lol..
We lost yesterday to a very good East Cobb Braves team 5-2
Came back today with nice win over the MN Starz 4-2
Great competition and all I saw were smiles for three days. Thanks to the coaches that allowed your guys to come along. It will be a memory they wont soon forget. Thanks you PG for having us. Good stuff for me too!
Smokey, we have a couple dandys from OPRF, Picci and Jo JO.
Sparky1 - Great stuff. Man do I miss those days.
Where can I find a schedule. Joe and I would love to catch a game.
Where can I find a schedule. Joe and I would love to catch a game.
Smokey,
I"ll email you our schedule. We will be at ISU and NIU here real soon.
Right now, we are in East Cobb Ga at the PG WWBA 18u tournament.
Sparks are sitting 4-0 and playing good baseball.
Weather has been great and competition, is as always , very very good.
Keep your fingers crossed. All the boys from Illinois are making us proud. Saw a Mchenry Hurricane guy hit a walk of grand slam to come from behind in the last inning. Good Stuff!
I"ll email you our schedule. We will be at ISU and NIU here real soon.
Right now, we are in East Cobb Ga at the PG WWBA 18u tournament.
Sparks are sitting 4-0 and playing good baseball.
Weather has been great and competition, is as always , very very good.
Keep your fingers crossed. All the boys from Illinois are making us proud. Saw a Mchenry Hurricane guy hit a walk of grand slam to come from behind in the last inning. Good Stuff!
Sam Dickstein threw a beautiful game for the norwood blues on Thursday afternoon. He needed very few pitches in the 4 innings he pitched. Kevin Edwards came in for the 5th (and last) inning, norwood won in five.
The Augustana bound pitcher is looking good and throwing the ball hard!
The Augustana bound pitcher is looking good and throwing the ball hard!
Congrats to a great kid and a strong baseball player, Ryan McMillan. He was under recruited and was just recently recruited to play at Western Michigan. This kid is a strong third baseman/ shortstop, can hit the ball and is a genuinely nice young man as well as a great teammate! This kid works hard and sprints on and off the field, all the time! It is great that he connected with a good D1 program. He and the school are both winners! The schools that overlooked him, their lose! Another Norwood player helped by Rich Pildes!
saw that kid play and he was one of the top shortstops I seen all year. Kid plays hard all the time, has some speed, good bat, and very good in the field. Good player all around, surprised Western Michigan had room this late for another guy, maybe he was a preferred walk-on. But either way the kid is good and I am glad someone finally made him an offer.
Midwest Bruins - A new team composed of Lockport Porters 1 Providence JR, 1 HF Senior and 15 2009 Varsity Porter players + 1 2010.