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Switching delivery from windup to set positions

DL Daniel - LHPMember
I have read that it is a balk for a MLB pitcher to switch from the windup to the set position without throwing a pitch first. You see pitchers at the high school and youth levels make this 'reset' before throwing a pitch, usually after the coach spots it and directs his pitcher to step off and reset in the stretch.

So what's the actual high school rule?

Are they balking all the time and it's being disregarded or is there no such requirement at the high school level? Any idea about college rule regarding this reset???

Best regards,
Daniel
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F 3FingeredGlove1,000+ posts
Now I'm completely confused. There are only two pitching postions: Set and Windup. I wonder what the Hardball Times author means by going from "stretch to set"?

Anyway, in one part of your post, you asked about HS rules. In NFHS, a pitcher in the set position can do the three things that Jimmy listed above. In the windup (NFHS only!), he cannot step and throw to a base. So alert runners, once they see the pitcher in the windup, should start running. I don't know why NFHS handles this differently than OBR/NCAA.
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
Where to start.....

First, I'd suggest you get your information about balks from Rule 8.00 in the Official Baseball Rulebook.

Second, the balk you describe of dropping the ball during delivery is not new.

Third, you are repeating yourself here:

It wasn't when going from the stretch to the set position, fails to pitch. It was when going from the stretch to the set position, fails to pitch

Any way you word that. it's wrong. The rule says that if the pitcher elects to use the stretch, he must come set prior to pitching.

Again, you need to use the rule book not that cockamamie web site. Check out specifically 8.01/8.02 and 8.05
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DL Daniel - LHPMember
Well, regarding what to call a pitch that fails to reach home plate, I had never seen it before. In ~60 years of broadcasting, Vin Scully had never seen it before. The audience was later informed that such a pitch is ruled a dropped ball if it fails to reach a foul line. That made the ruling clear.

I don't disregard the particular web site as cockamamie, but definitely a participating individual author might be. Had me confused, obviously ;-)
Jimmy03Jimmy031,000+ posts
The site is an embarassment. There is no effort made for accuracy. They are, as they claim, "a bunch of guys who like to write about baseball."

Great bathroom reading material, maybe. But if you want accurate information it is a waste of bandwidth.

One problem is that uninformed people read that cr@p and believe it.

If you plan on staying involved in baseball, invest in a rulebook.
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