Curious what the rule is for tape hanging off the bat handle? I looked through the FED rule book for that and could not find the rule that states that it would have to be taped up or cut off.
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There is no rule about loose tape....
The only rules are:
1. The bat must have a safety grip extending 10 inches minimum to 18 inches maximum from the knob end.
2. The wrapping must not make the bat handle flush with the knob end
3. The grip must not be slippery "electrical type tape is not legal"
The only rules are:
1. The bat must have a safety grip extending 10 inches minimum to 18 inches maximum from the knob end.
2. The wrapping must not make the bat handle flush with the knob end
3. The grip must not be slippery "electrical type tape is not legal"
quote:Originally posted by piaa_ump:
There is no rule about loose tape....
The only rules are:
1. The bat must have a safety grip extending 10 inches minimum to 18 inches maximum from the knob end.
2. The wrapping must not make the bat handle flush with the knob end
3. The grip must not be slippery "electrical type tape is not legal"
So then do you let them use the bat with the tape hanging off of it?
To me, much of successful umpiring is having faith in your own personal judgment....
In my opinion, if I noticed a loose tape grip that I felt would hinder his ability to safely hold onto the bat, I'd ask that the tape be repaired/modified or that he use another bat....
If there is no rule, I trust myself to make an informed reasonable judgment....
In my opinion, if I noticed a loose tape grip that I felt would hinder his ability to safely hold onto the bat, I'd ask that the tape be repaired/modified or that he use another bat....
If there is no rule, I trust myself to make an informed reasonable judgment....
quote:Originally posted by scocar:quote:Originally posted by piaa_ump:
There is no rule about loose tape....
The only rules are:
1. The bat must have a safety grip extending 10 inches minimum to 18 inches maximum from the knob end.
2. The wrapping must not make the bat handle flush with the knob end
3. The grip must not be slippery "electrical type tape is not legal"
So then do you let them use the bat with the tape hanging off of it?
By how much? Half an inch? An inch? An inch and a half? Two inches? Ten inches?
Judgment.
NFHS: 10.2.3g. "The umpire-in chief...duties include...the following: Make final decisions on points not covered by the rules."
MLB: 9.01c "Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules."
Judgment. Common sense. You've got them, don't be afraid to use them.
NFHS: 10.2.3g. "The umpire-in chief...duties include...the following: Make final decisions on points not covered by the rules."
MLB: 9.01c "Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules."
Judgment. Common sense. You've got them, don't be afraid to use them.
My obvious question then is why would you ask them to cut off three inches of tape hanging down, but not ask them to secure a three inch flap on the batting glove?
Clearly three inches of tape is not going to present any type of a safety issue. But it's probably distracting and annoying to see it hanging down. Three inches is about how far this undone flap on the batting glove was hanging down.
My whole point about this is that I get umpires that say they would not have addressed this, and I'm fine with that. I also get those that think an umpire that makes a habit out of numerous things of this nature being an OOO. But I don't think it's fair to label me as an OOO or act like what I did was so outlandish.
Most of my defending myself on the other thread was not based on me thinking I made the BEST decision, but thinking I made an ACCEPTABLE decision.
Clearly three inches of tape is not going to present any type of a safety issue. But it's probably distracting and annoying to see it hanging down. Three inches is about how far this undone flap on the batting glove was hanging down.
My whole point about this is that I get umpires that say they would not have addressed this, and I'm fine with that. I also get those that think an umpire that makes a habit out of numerous things of this nature being an OOO. But I don't think it's fair to label me as an OOO or act like what I did was so outlandish.
Most of my defending myself on the other thread was not based on me thinking I made the BEST decision, but thinking I made an ACCEPTABLE decision.
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy03:quote:Originally posted by scocar:quote:Originally posted by piaa_ump:
There is no rule about loose tape....
The only rules are:
1. The bat must have a safety grip extending 10 inches minimum to 18 inches maximum from the knob end.
2. The wrapping must not make the bat handle flush with the knob end
3. The grip must not be slippery "electrical type tape is not legal"
So then do you let them use the bat with the tape hanging off of it?
By how much? Half an inch? An inch? An inch and a half? Two inches? Ten inches?
3 inches.
Three inches? I'd ignore it.
BTW, I worked 18U select teams tonight and, since it was fresh in my mind, saw and counted no fewer than eight players who chose not to fasten their batting gloves.
No attention was paid to them by me in the first half of the DH or by parnter in the second game of the DH.
BTW, I worked 18U select teams tonight and, since it was fresh in my mind, saw and counted no fewer than eight players who chose not to fasten their batting gloves.
No attention was paid to them by me in the first half of the DH or by parnter in the second game of the DH.
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy03:
Three inches? I'd ignore it.
BTW, I worked 18U select teams tonight and, since it was fresh in my mind, saw and counted no fewer than eight players who chose not to fasten their batting gloves.
No attention was paid to them by me in the first half of the DH or by parnter in the second game of the DH.
Wow that must either be a regional thing or recent thing. I don't ever recall noticing it before while doing games. And even the one case that I did notice it was only because the velcro was bad.
Obviously if it's that prevalent I'm not going to touch it.
huh
amazing couple of threads tbh
as an infrequent poster (often have to re register because of the cant remember my password thing) but a long time lurker who has actually been involved in a few "bashed" threads I just wanna say thank you to the regular posting crew for putting up with this
lotta slack being cut here
OOO
No kidding just hope I never run into him/her on the field
amazing couple of threads tbh
as an infrequent poster (often have to re register because of the cant remember my password thing) but a long time lurker who has actually been involved in a few "bashed" threads I just wanna say thank you to the regular posting crew for putting up with this
lotta slack being cut here
OOO
No kidding just hope I never run into him/her on the field
I would get them to get it fixed because by being loose it will cause it to continue to loosen, then it will become unsafe. The hanging down is not illegal, an unsafe grip is.