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The Corrected List

Y YHF100+ posts
Obviously the list I found on the internet earlier was way off. ESPN just reported that 77 or 78 players are named in the report. I just compiled the list from the report itself, separated into 3 categories....1) BALCO investigation, (2) got steroids/HGH from Mets employee Greg Radomski, and (3) internet purchases (Albany, NY investigation). These guys are "listed" in the report. I'm not making any judgment on the sufficiency of the evidence used to put them there. Here you go...

BALCO (8 names)
Barry Bonds
Jeremy Giambi
Jason Giambi
Armando Rios
Gary Sheffield
Benito Santiago
Marvin Bernard
Bobby Estalella


From Greg Radomski (54 names)
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Greg Zaun
David Justice
FP Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Nook Logan


From Internet purchases (16 names)
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Darren Holmes
Gary Matthews Jr.
John Rocker
Scott Schoeneweis
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Scott Woodard
------------------------------------------ I'm a schizophrenic...and so am I.
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Y YHF100+ posts
I got the numbers from ESPN, then read through the actual Mitchell Report on MLB's web site. The names are highlighted in there, it wasn't that hard. So I compiled it from the actual report.

The original list was posted on several web sites but obviously was way off. Intentional or not, I don't know.
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Y YHF100+ posts
I suspect Bud will fall back on the "we're testing and we have a good system". Whatever happened in the past was beyond our control......Blah, Blah, Blah. Yeah, right.

The players union will cry about the sufficiency of the evidence for naming some or all of these guys. But to me, if the players' union refuses to participate in the process, and won't make current players available for interviews, they don't have much right to complain about how it turned out. According the report even Gene Orza refused to be interviewed by Mitchell. If you don't help in the kitchen, don't complain about the food.

A lot of the guys on the list are no longer in the game. Imagine if they could have got cooperation from more guys currently working in ML clubhouses.
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T TripleDad500+ posts
I don't think anything will happen. From a quick review, prob 90% of the information is public knowledge. So in essence, MLB paid millions to interview some peaple and produce a few check stubs.
Oh , and of course, Mr. Mitchells opinions on how to correct the problem...dime a dozen

Actually, the report could be interpreted as showing that Steroid use is NOT very widespread.
Considering there have probably been at least 2000 (a guess) players on an active roster since 2002. 4% is not widespread. Spend that kind of money on a report, Millions and Millions, where is the beef?
Mr. Mitchells Many years of public service (wasting
money) has served him well.
Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
quote:
Actually, the report could be interpreted as showing that Steroid use is NOT very widespread.


I see it differently. 5-7% positive test rate in spring 2003 after ample notice of testing, indicates a likely positive rate in the multiples of the actual positives to me. Probably 15-25% positive averages around that time period, plus the HGH users. The abuse rate indicated is probably not 50%, but likely much higher than 5-7%. Probably triple. They had six months notice. Only the morons got caught. Tip o' the iceberg, imo.
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Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
Tripledad. I think we agree. The report barely scratches the surface because it is outside the court system. One team strength guy/clubhouse guy caught dealing to 54 players. There are 30 clubhouse managers and literally hundreds of clubhouse attendants, at anyone time. I'm in the business of adjusting data to interpret trends.

If you put all the clubbies under oath, you might get the rest of the story. I think it was really bad, but a little better now, with home runs down the last two years. At $90 for a box seat, I want to know what I'm buying.

Hopefully the right people will interpret the data accordingly and act appropriately.
06catcherdad06catcherdad1,000+ posts
The report surprised me in two areas in particular. First, I was surprised at some of the players not mentioned, but who are widely suspected. Guys like Brett Boone, Brady Anderson and players of thier ilk who bulked up mightily and had a few big years then quietly faded away. There are probably a lot of those guys we don't see on the list. The second was the small list of sources that they relied on to include names in this report. What would the report have looked like if he'd have just doubled the number of sources?

It's far from a comprehensive or complete list.

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