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Well the long journey has ended, actually just begun, but anyway BOF Jr has picked a school. (finally I might add, whew that was a marathon) All I can say is that this took a lot longer than any of us (me in particular) figured, but we are extremely happy with his choice. For those who don’t want to read my diatribe on the process - he will be a Trinity Tiger in San Antonio next year.

For those of you still searching, there is some information that might help you, and for those who have got their kids in school already - you may relate to my ramblings.

First I need to thank many of you for your public posts, as well as the countless private messages. Without this site we could not have found our way through the quagmire of college recruiting. HSBBW rocks in this regard!

Those of you who have placed your sons already know; it is not an easy process, and it is particularly more difficult when you are trying to find an academic and athletic match for high academic achiever. Not that it is any less difficult for any other player, and thinking about it as I type this it is probably more difficult if he has poor grades….but I am digressing. At least for us, it became pretty complex when we had the objective of finding a specific academic program combined with a good baseball program. For those of you trying to do the same thing, I say to you; keep working hard and keep using the resources at this site, as there is a school out there that will match your son. It is very likely you don’t even know the school exists, which was the case with us. In fact, BOF Jr’s final two choices were not even on his first list of 30 candidate schools. Also, when all of his buddies are signing and publicizing their choices, at school, in the dugout, in the papers, etc, be patient and keep working toward your goal. Success will come for those who work hard and are patient.

As far as the process goes, Jr is by no means a blue chipper, but he was fortunate enough to have offers from some D1’s to NAIA schools; some as a recruited walk on, down to (surprisingly) almost a full ride. He was however, not flooded with offers and we had to work hard in finding matching schools. He (with my help) has sent out hundreds of emails to coaches over the past two years. I will say that even when you are fortunate enough to get an offer you need to be realistic about it. When it happens you are so excited, because someone wants your son! (or you if you are a player). In our case it was not even a remote fit academically and we had to decline…darn it! If he is lucky enough to get a really great offer, you also need to carefully weigh the school, baseball program, and the match even more. There sometimes is a reason that things seem better than they should be. In our case we again had to say “thanks, but no thanks”. Trust me, this is very very hard for both you to say no, particularly if he is not inundated with interest. (and you are looking at your checkbook balance).

For those of you who’s son gets a recruited walk on offer, particularly from a D1 school be very very cautious and ask lots of tough questions - there is likely a reason they are not offering your son money. In our case at least, I had to help formulate those questions for him and we had to rehearse them a number of times. It is not easy for an 18 year old to call a coach as ask really tough questions. He made multiple calls over multiple weeks to discover the real story. He was able to do this and it has helped him grow into a man. It would have been much easier for me to pick up the phone and call the coach, but don’t do it, let your son. That said, there are times when you need to talk to a coach, feel free to do so when you think it is really necessary.

It really helps in the process, if your wife is a pessimist; mine at least thinks all of these coaches are a bunch of used car salesmen. I can't tell you how many times my wife, my son and I were arguing at about this coach or that coach in the evenings. Guys, let me set you straight right now – she is right.

Recruiting by nature is personal, but you can’t make it that way. It becomes really personal when Baseball U is making an offer to Billy Baseball, and YOU know that your son is better than Billy. What is the matter with that coach? Is he crazy? No - YOU really are. Also guess what? Your opinion does not matter! The only thing that matters is the opinion of the school’s coaching staff. I found myself several times thinking “I can’t wait for my son to strike out Billy Baseball when they play each other and show THAT coach that I know more than him”. I know it sounds crazy, but those of you who have had your son recruited, did the same thing. Didn’t you? I see you sitting there at that computer smirking. This was the most difficult thing for me to do, but you must not take it personal when Baseball U says they are going in another direction.

For those of you having sons wanting to only play D1 baseball - think about this carefully. Go for it if you want (it helps to be a blue chip stud), but make sure you go to a place that you are really wanted. Be aware however that it is likely that he may sit on the bench for a year or two. There is also the risk that Super Billy Baseball may get recruited next year and take the spot that he thought was his. (you are particularly vulnerable to this if you are a preferred walk on, as the money that was told to you last year was yours, suddenly is not) My son had opportunities to play D1 baseball and chose D3 instead for several reasons. First and foremost it was a great school, and the coaching staff really wanted him; not the other way around. They were able to articulate exactly why, and where they planned on him playing when he got there. He saw them play, he did his homework and he knows who is coming in, who’s leaving, who is on the roster, and he knows he can compete at the school. Do a lot of homework here, read rosters, have multiple meetings with the coaches, ask the same questions on different days and in different ways, and don’t believe everything a recruiting coach tells you, (guys a pessimistic mom really helps you here) see them play many times if you can. If you smell something fishy – trust me there is a dead fish somewhere in the dugout.

Again for the high academic kids, it is possible to play D1 baseball and take a difficult major, but it is not easy. Make sure he really understands the commitment and make sure the coaches will support him in his endeavors. A lot say that they will, but few back it up with actions. You have to REALLY dig into the details to know for sure. Make sure he talks to kids in the program who have done it, don’t take the word of the coach (remember the used car salesmen in coaches clothing). Ideally your son should be able to sit down and talk to these players and get their experiences face to face. It can be done but they are far and few between. The reality is that D1 coaches are paid to win, not get your son through school with a pre-med degree with honors. Don’t let your son go to a school because it is his only offer, and he THINKS he can make it work. He and you have to KNOW it will work.

Something else to think about is how successful the program is. In my son’s case he could have been playing for a good, solid, D1 program, but they are never at the top of their conference. In the case of the school he is going to, they are proven winners year in and year out. I know he is going to be having more fun playing for a winning D3 program vs. a losing D1.

Do not underestimate academic money. In my son’s case he got significantly more money via academic aid vs. athletic aid. He is going to have to perform in school to keep it, but in my view college is about learning first, playing baseball second. My son understands that he is going to have to keep working hard academically, but I am comforted knowing he will keep his priorities straight. (if not HE will have some big loans to pay off) Also, if he breaks his leg and can’t play the money will still be there.

Finally, for those of you with son’s who do not have offers, don’t fret, you can still find a place to play if he really wants to. As I said, Jr is by no means a blue chip stud, and is in fact a bit of a late bloomer, which made the process more difficult and maddening. Because of this we did explore the JC option and he had several places he could have played should things have not worked out for him. It was not his first option, but it was an option if he needed it. Also keep working even if you plan to go this route, my son had several programs tell him that they get kids in up until August.

In the end he found a school that had an excellent academic and baseball program and again I am very thankful for all of you at this site. Like I said at the beginning it would not have been possible without HSBBW!

Cheers!
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BOF - well done! Thanks for taking the time to put all your thoughts in writing.

All the best to your son at Trinity - an outstanding baseball and academic opportunity. They have a fine reputation for luring California ballplayers and also a nice reputation for getting kids to the next level as well.

Maybe your son, with development at Trinity, can see his baseball dreams continue at the next level someday before he enters medical school. First things first however. Continue to enjoy the rest of his high school career
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Texas is a "fur piece", quite a long way walkin' and truly a long and winding road from SoCal. My son learned a lot about the airline industry and made some friends at Charlotte International Airport during his freshman year. Best of Luck. It is a relief to finally know the particulars both financially and academically, isn't it?

My son was neither a first round prospect nor an academic high achiever. At first, I thought that to be quite a handicap which it surely can be. But I found out that a young man can stand out among the masses simply by willing it to be, remembering that each day is made up of a string of simple choices when made one at a time with purpose creates a life with purpose.

If Jr. has not already made it clear how thankful he is for your assistance; I am sure he most certainly will within the coming months. "Breaking trail" is a term used commonly by sled dog teams and trappers to describe running out in front of the sled in a deep fresh cover of snow in order to pack the snow down and keep the dogs and sled from bogging down and traveling slowly. Sometimes in order to travel 10 miles you might have to actually walk 20, breaking trail and coming back to get the sled. You are to be applauded for "breaking trail" for your son. There are far too many young men who have nobody to break trail for them.
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How are you going to watch being so far away?


Trinity has a video feed of nearly every game.
This was put together by the parent of a former player who was a 2 sport All American in baseball and football. The student-athlete was also, if I remember correctly, the recipient of an NCAA post-graduate academic sholarship. Not sure what he did in his free time.
The parent is a wonderful person who years after his son was graduated was still showing up for games in Memphis, Jackson, Mississippi and many other places.
It is really something compared to only a few years back when we wouldn't know the results of a game, especially on their Spring break trip, for sometime 2-3 days.
Patriot,

My wife told my son last night that when he is out of the house we would now free to move anywhere and since there are lots of high tech companies in Austin we were moving there....

You can imagine the look on his face Eek

On Sunday going through his final selection, on our "T chart" for "distance from home", he had Trinity as a "+" and we had it as a "-"

Her friend who has a daughter going to a NorCal school told her "it is 6-7 hour drive for us and you can get there in about the same amount of time by driving to the airport and flying to SA." It is also a heck of a lot cheaper staying in SA than the Bay Area.

Least of my worries right now, I have to come up with a deposit in August....
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On Sunday going through his final selection, on our "T chart" for "distance from home", he had Trinity as a "+" and we had it as a "-".


That is too funny. Smile

I especially liked that you allowed your son to take ownership of the process, until it was your turn to talk to the coach.
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Yes he does.
Zach Fregosi, the battery mate who has befriended Josh Beckett, is a terrific young man.
Since that story came out, Zach has taken over as the assistant coach and recruiting coordinator.
Getting BOF's son to Trinity is solid evidence that Zach is doing his coaching job well, also.

infielddad - Fregosi is a famous baseball name. Can you comment on that further? Everything I have ever heard about Jim Fregosi is that he is a great guy.
BOF,

What a great post! My son was in the exact situation as your son. You articulated the process you went through beautifully. That could have been my son except I was working and traveling with my son instead of dad. I think it was much easier for him turning down the D1 offers once he knew the academic money and grants were going to come in from the D3 schools as well.
This one's almost bittersweet.

BOF Jr. is going to a great town, great school, and a great program. Guys that can play and do it the right way on and off the field. He's coming into a program that is headed to NCAA Regionals and very possibly even further.

However, that team is in our conference! The last thing the Rhodes Lynx hitters want to see is an arm like that on the bump.

In all seriousness, congratulations! We at Rhodes have a saying that exemplifies our priorities (and hopefully any successful division 3 program): Family, Academics, Baseball then everything else. We are paying extra attention to make sure nothing gets between Academics and Baseball here -- Coach used Trinity as an example of a program that seemed to step it up from good to great after disallowing players from fraternities. So be proud that the school you're sending your son to is the model even for programs that are just a tier below. We've played teams that are ranked higher occasionally that we bestow no such praise to, but Trinity certainly seems to do it all right.

Great luck, except in the SCAC tournament of course! Wink
bballdad175,
That older brother just had a terrific SCAC tournament. He had some of the biggest AB's and RBI's to get Trinity to the Regional. Word is "older brother" is a very, very good player.
JPontiac, that is a terrific post.
Coach Cleanthes arrived when our son was just graduating from Trinity. What a great job he has done.
One aspect about the SCAC coaches which is so terrific is how they share information to "up the ante" so to speak for every program and the level of competition.
Coach Cleanthes, Coach Page, Coach Thomas, Coach Scannell and others can coach at any level of college baseball.
JPontiac,

What a great post and you are a great kid. I have been watching you post here for the last couple of years and I am excited for you on where you landed.
I wish you all of the best and I hopefully will get a chance to meet you in the next year, depending on when I am able to get down and see the team play.

IMO it is not an accident that they have a winning program. I can tell you that these guys are doing some great things down there. Pilates, Bikram Yoga, some workout routines similar to what Wolforth uses. Really leading edge stuff, so I am curious what impact this has on my son.

Seriously, I have been in PAC10, BigWest, WAC and some other big time programs the past year and they are as good or better than many of them. My wife found this older article on the web and sent it to me.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sp...e-playing-665971.php

Best of luck to you!
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... But I found out that a young man can stand out among the masses simply by willing it to be, remembering that each day is made up of a string of simple choices when made one at a time with purpose creates a life with purpose...

PA Dino this is one of the best quotes ever!
Congrats. My niece is a junior at Trinity and loves it. Her boyfriend is on the baseball team. It is definitely on MY list for my son (now a HS sophomore).

I'm sure he has heard this but it is hotter than you can imagine in San Antonio. Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning. That being said, as a native Texan San Antonio is one of my two favorite places in Texas (Austin is the other).

Thanks for the terrific post.

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