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Good answer, it also depends more on the situation, if the game means nothing(nondistrict) i would have no problem being pulled. Close district game i do everything i can to stay in the game.

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...I do everything I can to stay in the game.

Rock, As a pitcher that has to be your mindset for every outing and that's why there are coaches to make that decision to yank. As a HS coach it is his responsibility to make that call because it is his system and he is the coach. Good job coach.

I still get some good natured c r a p from a former pitcher of mine who I pulled while he was throwing a no hitter. There can be risks to any and every decision that a coach makes.

I could only wish that my son's high school coach knew what his pitch count was! First game of the season last year, he threw over 130 pitches. This year in the first two games he is at 200 pitches. THe kid's arm strength is not built up yet for this number of pitches. Each game it seems like he can go 15-20 more pitches. However, we all know there are innings in high school when the pitcher has to get 5 outs. IOM those are extra hard pitches on the pitchers arm.

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I could only wish that my son's high school coach knew what his pitch count was!

I would tell him, if I were you.

Agree with Dad.

After all, he is YOUR SON.

Heard of a kid around here that just threw a complete game 143 pitches and got beat 10-2. Now I'm thinking that is just crazy. It's bad enough to throw that many pitches at any pooint in the season, but doing so while getting blown out is just plain ridiculous.

If there is a pitch count issue, the coach should be notified he is over the line. What's he gunna do? Maybe get his feelings hurt and skip your kid for a start or two. He'll get over it sooner than your son gets over losing a ulnar collateral ligament or two. jmo

Asked a college pitcher a few weeks ago why he thought he ended up with TJ surgery.
190+ game pitch counts in HS quite a number of times.

Asked a former ML player why he thought he ended up with TJS, too many innings in college.

It creeps up on you after awhile.

Dad04,
Sounds like your Bud is having a great year!

Folks some 10 years back or so I had a fall team loaded with college prospects, one pitcher who got drafted by the Mets out of college

All pitcher whop started games knew the rule--80 pitches and out--twice the ace had a no hitter when he hit 80 pitches and out he came--the relief pitcher folowed and he threw as well as the starter--we got both nono's---in both games the UMP questioned me as to why I took the starter out--my answer was simple-- " between me and you who will know about the nono? We do not report to the papers or radio and TV."

Heck it was a fall league prepping the kids for the HS spring and the college career to follow--nothing more--nothing less

Great Job TR. In our little worlds of first place finishes and multiple awards, who really cares or notices what you win until you're on the national stage. Its the kids who will always want more, and we want them that way. But we need to look out for them first.

Is there a web site that lists what pitch counts should be for kids at what age and where they are in the season?

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Is there a web site that lists what pitch counts should be for kids at what age and where they are in the season?

www.asmi.org

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why he ended up with TJ surgery....
190+ game pitch counts in HS quite a number of times.

...former ML player why he ..ended up with TJS, too many innings in college.

TPM, good point. Research by Dr. Joe Chandler (Atlanta Braves) and other experts in the field support this.

(Is your son pitching at Tech this weekend? I'll probably be at the Sunday game - hope he's not to hard on us)

Since I coach much younger players, I have a much lower pitch count. I know that in the course of many years we have lost quite a few games because our starter has reached his pitch count and I took him out and the relief did not hold it together.

This game isn't about wining and losing at this age. It about developing baseball players and character in those players.

This was nice to hear:

Drove down yesterday with a college coach to see one of our pitchers and his HS team-- after the game when we asked when the young man would be throwing again he said he never pitches with less than 4/5 days rest regardless of weather etc

Nice to hear from a HS Coach

I commend that coach....




I witnessed a similar situation last year during a tourney with my son. He went 6 innings but passed the 100 mark. The coach was very careful with him in the 5th and 6th inning and was constantly asking him how he was feeling. He got the no-no and was on cloud 9. Funny thing is I didn't know what was going on. The other team was hitting it to us and he was just throwing strikes.

I am glad to see that this particular coach had a plan and didn't get stuck in the moment of the no hitter. Good for him and even better for the kid!!!