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This coach has been fightin the NCAA for some time.
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YES! I logged on to see if anyone had found it, had just read of it's existence on the College Baseball Web. That article is certainly makes one want to read all 9+ pages that Coach Polk wrote & sent!
Ya just gotta love Coach Polk
He is one of my favorite men in college baseball
He is one of my favorite men in college baseball
Suprised he only "requested" 20 scholarships??
As someone posted in the other Found thread, I'll be copying it, pouring a glass of wine (or as he suggests, something with caffeine), then sit and read it (when I get home). Should be very interesting!
Maybe Ron should have provided a link to this site so the NCAA can get a getter understanding of what parents of players discuss regarding all the FITS of recruiting, especially the Financial one.
Reading the Bylaws, reading posts here and elsewhere, knowing most D1 universities have no reason to cry poor, using baseball equipment from multi-billion dollar companies, and everything else that applies, I still can't figure out how difficult it is to allocate a mere $250,000 more to bring baseball funding up to a decent level, at least 20-25 COA equivalencies at each school.
Need I mention the feeder system college baseball is to MLB. Instead, they choose to spend millions of dollars in Central and South America to develop talent.
Just fathom what AROD makes per at bat. About 4 free rides???? Just a guess.
I propose an agreement that for each equivalent that a NCAA D1 program funds, a matching one from MLB and the equipment companies also get issued.
11.7 times 3 is nearly a full ride for each player. Imagine how the recruiting landscape would change.
I am inspired to draft a letter.
Reading the Bylaws, reading posts here and elsewhere, knowing most D1 universities have no reason to cry poor, using baseball equipment from multi-billion dollar companies, and everything else that applies, I still can't figure out how difficult it is to allocate a mere $250,000 more to bring baseball funding up to a decent level, at least 20-25 COA equivalencies at each school.
Need I mention the feeder system college baseball is to MLB. Instead, they choose to spend millions of dollars in Central and South America to develop talent.
Just fathom what AROD makes per at bat. About 4 free rides???? Just a guess.
I propose an agreement that for each equivalent that a NCAA D1 program funds, a matching one from MLB and the equipment companies also get issued.
11.7 times 3 is nearly a full ride for each player. Imagine how the recruiting landscape would change.
I am inspired to draft a letter.
quote:I am inspired to draft a letter.
Do it, Slugger! If the NCAA powers that be would read the HSBW threads, I'd propose those that have local baseball web boards include their many threads discussing their NCAA rule changes, the impact they are having on some families, players.
Write to Coach, ask him to pass on to the NCAA.
aedwards@athletics.msstate.edu
aedwards@athletics.msstate.edu
quote:Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
Write to Coach, ask him to pass on to the NCAA.
aedwards@athletics.msstate.edu
I did
quote:quote:
Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
Write to Coach, ask him to pass on to the NCAA.
aedwards@athletics.msstate.edu
I did
& I, for one, would like to read that email ... maybe the musings of the board will get a glance?
Good job Coach Polk
Based on my experiences with the NCAA "where do I sign up".
If you want to find NCAA in the dictionary lookup Beaurocracy
If you want to find NCAA in the dictionary lookup Beaurocracy
We all know football is a big revenue sport
but doesn't it strike you as overkill 85 scolarships?
The NFL has a 53 man active roster.
but doesn't it strike you as overkill 85 scolarships?
The NFL has a 53 man active roster.
A very passionate critique of the proposed changes. In academic parlance, the NCAA is not focusing on the main "driver" that created the problem (severely limited scholarships for baseball versus other sports) but rather attempting to further punish the athletes and baseball teams for simply
living under such a flawed system without acknowleding the main cause of the problem. The amazing thing is that the changes were brought about not because of any specific academic problems that baseball in general is having (their APR's match very closely those of the the higher scholarship sports of football or basketball) but rather the NCAA looked at the high school test scores of the players and thought they should have been doing even better than they are. Very subjective, capricious and in fact discriminatory.
Compare it to looking at the inhabitants of the shanty towns in South Africa during the apartheid era and asking why don't they have better nutrition, why don't those people take better care of themselves?
Why is the NCAA engaged in such an activity? Me thinks because they can. Imagine the outcry in the some circles if such a plan was implemented in football, basketball or womens sports? Those sports include sacred protected cows (both cash and otherwise) on university and political circles these days. Essentially the NCAA is taking the Nifong approach to dealing with a perceived problem.
living under such a flawed system without acknowleding the main cause of the problem. The amazing thing is that the changes were brought about not because of any specific academic problems that baseball in general is having (their APR's match very closely those of the the higher scholarship sports of football or basketball) but rather the NCAA looked at the high school test scores of the players and thought they should have been doing even better than they are. Very subjective, capricious and in fact discriminatory.
Compare it to looking at the inhabitants of the shanty towns in South Africa during the apartheid era and asking why don't they have better nutrition, why don't those people take better care of themselves?
Why is the NCAA engaged in such an activity? Me thinks because they can. Imagine the outcry in the some circles if such a plan was implemented in football, basketball or womens sports? Those sports include sacred protected cows (both cash and otherwise) on university and political circles these days. Essentially the NCAA is taking the Nifong approach to dealing with a perceived problem.
Just received my hard copy of the Polk letter sent from my son's college coach asking all of his players and parents to respond to our School president and AD in support of Coach Polk's letter.
If your son is a current player or future recruited player you need to read this letter and understand how the recruiting game has changed.
I like to think I have kept up with things but I did not realize that most football and basketball players get there summer school payed for since thet are on 100% scholly. Since there are no summer leagues those kids stay at school in the summer and and have a chance to catch up or get a head in thier studies whereas baseball players do not have that option unless they wish to forgo summer ball and pay for most if not all of thier summer school.
Imagine if Baseball players were on 100% scholly and did not have to play summer ball and had summer school paid for..........you probably could not feild a team of seniors because they would have all graduated well before their senior season.
The APR calculation between baseball and football are apples and oranges and not a fair comparison.
Again all prospects read the letter so you know what you are getting into.
If your son is a current player or future recruited player you need to read this letter and understand how the recruiting game has changed.
I like to think I have kept up with things but I did not realize that most football and basketball players get there summer school payed for since thet are on 100% scholly. Since there are no summer leagues those kids stay at school in the summer and and have a chance to catch up or get a head in thier studies whereas baseball players do not have that option unless they wish to forgo summer ball and pay for most if not all of thier summer school.
Imagine if Baseball players were on 100% scholly and did not have to play summer ball and had summer school paid for..........you probably could not feild a team of seniors because they would have all graduated well before their senior season.
The APR calculation between baseball and football are apples and oranges and not a fair comparison.
Again all prospects read the letter so you know what you are getting into.
I know there is that whole argument about getting an education rather than taking the money from getting drafted, but it seems the imposed rule changes might force some kids hands, and that would be a shame for all parties involved.Not saying my sons are gonna get drafted but if he was to get drafted out of high school and also had interest from college I believe it would affect his decision.
quote:Originally posted by 2Diamonds:
I know there is that whole argument about getting an education rather than taking the money from getting drafted, but it seems the imposed rule changes might force some kids hands, and that would be a shame for all parties involved.Not saying my sons are gonna get drafted but if he was to get drafted out of high school and also had interest from college I believe it would affect his decision.
There is a value for a young man(18) to spending 3-4 years at a university and enjoying the campus lifestyle, getting an education, as well as playing college baseball.
Unless it is life-changing monies, or the player has no academic desires past high school, then the new rules shouldn't make that much difference when deciding, IMO
If you are saying that a 25% minimum will cut into somebodys "full-ride", there are rarely 100% baseball grants handed out.
OS,
Very well said!
Who says one can't learn from the HSBBW!
The bottom line is what do you want to do? If you want to play pro ball you go play, regardless of the bonus money. If you want to go to college and play, you go regardless of the scholarship.
The only difference will be for those that have greater options than most. But they are usually the ones' with the biggest scholarships to begin with. It won't affect them.
I think it is very important for those that have son's entering school or in school to raise a voice if you are not in agreement with the new NCAA ruling. Educate others.
Very well said!
Who says one can't learn from the HSBBW!
The bottom line is what do you want to do? If you want to play pro ball you go play, regardless of the bonus money. If you want to go to college and play, you go regardless of the scholarship.
The only difference will be for those that have greater options than most. But they are usually the ones' with the biggest scholarships to begin with. It won't affect them.
I think it is very important for those that have son's entering school or in school to raise a voice if you are not in agreement with the new NCAA ruling. Educate others.
quote:Originally posted by TripleDad:
We all know football is a big revenue sport
but doesn't it strike you as overkill 85 scolarships?
The NFL has a 53 man active roster.
The reason football has 85 scholarships is so that the university has a bigger pool of scholarshiped graduates from which to fundraise with. This is also the reason that football, even at universities that continually field poor teams, overhype their programs...to make those graduated still feel the importance of their impact and thereby fleece their pockets.
Polk got the required signatures to have his say to the NCAA in December
Good news for College baseball. What a stand up guy. 