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This is not meant to be a post about which is the best route to go out of high school (pro vs. college) but to compare the differences in the recruiting techniques. There are many similarities but there are many differences too. I think the college recruitment is much more complex having literally hundreds of variables and just as many unknowns. Successful college recruitment usually happens because the parent and player have been proactive and have taken the necessary steps to be seen. It is important to be at the right place at the right time doing the right things. Preparation both athletically and academically is very important. Once you get noticed and colleges show interest you realize no two college programs are alike. They go from horrible to great--- tiny to huge --- all the work you’ve done to get here and suddenly you realize the work is just beginning..

Making the decision to go pro instead of going to college is pretty black and white. Either a player will sign professionally for X number of dollars or he won’t. It seems as if professional baseball has an uncanny ability to find players no matter where they are or what they are doing. All these years and dollars spent trying to get noticed by college coaches and unbeknownst to you every pro scout in the country had already seen your son --- somewhere. A player contemplating going pro has basically two unknowns --- how much money will they give him to sign and what round will he be drafted in. One thing I find strange is an advisor and parental involvement seems to be OK and even encouraged when contemplating the simple pro angle but whereas it seems to be “unacceptable” when it involves what can be an overwhelming task of selecting a college. (of course that is fodder for another post)

My son had already been through the college recruitment and had signed his NLI and we were just coasting along waiting on spring practice and hoping for some scout activity once the season got rolling. The first day of spring practice caught me totally off guard. “Who are all the people at practice?” was the first words I asked of the HS coach ---- He smiled and said “Scouts!” It all makes sense if you think about it ---- Scouts do as their name implies ---they spend their lives scouting! College coaches spend most of their lives “coaching”. They both have something to offer and they both want baseball players but their approach is quite different.
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Ineresting perspectives - thanks.

I am sure that if my son had the opportunity to turn pro out of high school he would have. Nonetheless, he has loved his college experience. Players can make going either route a success.

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One thing I find strange is an advisor and parental involvement seems to be OK and even encouraged when contemplating the simple pro angle but whereas it seems to be “unacceptable” when it involves what can be an overwhelming task of selecting a college. (of course that is fodder for another post)


Don't know if I have ever seen that topic discussed on the hsbbweb. It would be nice to start a topic on that in the future.
Oh, we got tons of advice from "advisors" (not in the pro sense of the word) in the college process. Lots of people 'in-the-know' giving their advice.

However, looking back, I'm not too sure much of it was very accurate. (I had barely found this site and had not yet figured out the value of it).

I sometimes wonder if my son had signed out of HS, how different would his life be? Would he have developed more as a baseball player? Would he have matured as a person as much as he has in college? Would he have really ever gone back to school? Would he be happier or less happy? Would he be married? Eek

And I wonder if the advice he got from "advisors" regarding the pro game would have been accurate or not? No way for me to judge.

I sometimes ask myself if he (and we) made the right choice about college/pro out of HS. And I find I have no way at all to arrive at an answer to that question that I am satisfied is the right one. We did the best we could and overall...considering everything...both he and we are pretty happy. But could it have been better? Don't think we'll ever know.
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Fungo,
I had a former coworker call me last year to tell me that some guy offered to help her family in the recruiting process, for 2500 dollars, up front, no guarantees.
An advisor who is an professional's agent will spent many hours helping and gaining the players trust and not ask for anything until the player decides to sign a professional contract. Both parties cannot make an agreement regarding professional services until any result occurs or the player signs. I think that is rather black and white. Asking for someone to invest up front in the unknown is rather speculative and risky, I think that is why using an advisor for a college scholarship is not something most of us would recommend. I do know some people that have used college advisor services just for getting into certain high academic schools (no athletics involved). The advice given was how to take tests properly, help in essays and how to answer questions on applications, etc. As we all know, getting into any college these days is VERY TOUGH and can be political. I think basically, our kids are very lucky that they participate in something that someone wants and needs for their program.

I have often said and will say again, I am not sure if my son, as an out of state student, would have been accepted to Clemson if he didn't play baseball.

Did I often wonder if my son needed advice for the draft. Yes, I did often wonder if it was necessary for this draft. I asked lots of questions myself in the end and realized that there is absolutely no way I could have figured it out and very grateful for the help he got and will tell you that the fee is definetly worth the advice and assistance. That is also a personal decision based on different situations.
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I do know some people that have used college advisor services just for getting into certain high academic schools (no athletics involved). The advice given was how to take tests properly, help in essays and how to answer questions on applications, etc.


Thanks for the info TPM. I didn't know about these types of services but it does make sense.

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We did the best we could and overall...considering everything...both he and we are pretty happy. But could it have been better? Don't think we'll ever know.

justbaseball, Good points. I think that is a very good example of how a successful baseball/college experience plays out. It is obvious your son (and the family) have done a lot of things right --- It would be tough to make it much better ---- other than eliminate his injury.

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