third out called, end of inning = dead ball???

micmeister500+ posts

I have a situation question. Bottom of 7th inning, runners on first and second 2 outs slow roller to 2nd base, he throws wide pulling 1st baseman off of bag, but base umpire calls runner out. Runner going to second rounds bag and jogs toward third thinking game is over, 1st baseman knows he was pulled off bag and throws to third who tags runner who is called out by home plate umpire. Coach asks for appeal at 1st base from home plate umpire who calls runner safe at 1st. Home plate Umpire sends runner back to second after discussion with other Umpire. Coach goes nuts from defensive team, Umpires read rule book and decide game is over due to runner being tagged out going to third. Wasn't the first decision correct? Can a runner be called out after the third out has already been called???

4/17/0710:01 AM

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LonBlue67100+ posts

1. BU should ask PU for pulled-foot info before making call

2. PU should never honor a judgement 'appeal' - if BU doesnt ask, PU keeps his mouth shut cept to say, "Coach, not my call there."

3. what age group is this?

4/17/0710:18 AM

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micmeister500+ posts

High School in Kentucky.

4/17/0710:27 AM

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micmeister500+ posts

I agree with all of that, but what is the rule?

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Originally posted by LonBlue67:
1. BU should ask PU for pulled-foot info before making call

2. PU should never honor a judgement 'appeal' - if BU doesnt ask, PU keeps his mouth shut cept to say, "Coach, not my call there."

3. what age group is this?

4/17/0710:29 AM

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Michael S. Taylor1,000+ posts

The rule is the umpires can't put the runners in jepardy with a incorrect call. If the BU had asked about a pulled foot and the PU had him off then they should have put the runner back at second. The R1 wasn't trying to not be put out because he thought there was already three outs therefore he goes back. MHO

4/17/0710:37 AM

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LonBlue67100+ posts

The rules are:

NFHS 10-4: "Any umpire's decision which involves judgment, such as...whether a runner is safe or out, is final....the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked by the one making it."

NFHS Casebook 10-2-3 Situation H:"....The umpire-in-chief can rectify any situation in which an umpire's decision that was reversed has placed a base runner in jeopardy."

4/17/0711:09 AM

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micmeister500+ posts

Thanks! That answered it for me!

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Originally posted by LonBlue67:
The rules are:

NFHS 10-4: "Any umpire's decision which involves judgment, such as...whether a runner is safe or out, is final....the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked by the one making it."

NFHS Casebook 10-2-3 Situation H:"....The umpire-in-chief can rectify any situation in which an umpire's decision that was reversed has placed a base runner in jeopardy."

4/17/0711:18 AM

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