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George Will wrote a column about the NCAA, college football, and the tax exempt status that the colleges & NCAA are privileged to have. Worth reading. I would replace the word football with athletics in this article. With the exception of the money generated, I think these thoughts apply to college baseball programs also.
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Time to rethink the place of high-stakes football in higher education?


By George Will

Before Miami police quelled the recent riot involving more than 100 University of Miami and Florida International University football players in the Orange Bowl, fighting erupted among fans in the stands. In two masterpieces of misdirected anxiety, the commissioner of Miami's Atlantic Coast Conference said the rioting "has no place in college football'' and the commissioner of FIU's Sun Belt Conference said "there is no place in higher education for the type of conduct exhibited.''


But the question really raised by the barbaric behavior, and by nonviolent but nonetheless lurid behavior by some universities, is: What is the place of high-stakes football in higher education?


Twelve days before the Orange Bowl brawl, Republican Rep. Bill Thomas wrote, as chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, an eight-page letter to the president of the National Collegiate Athletic Association, asking awkward questions. Thomas wonders how, or whether, big-time college sports programs, which generate billions of tax-exempt dollars - CBS pays the NCAA an annual average of $545 million mainly for rights to televise the March Madness basketball tournament - further the purposes for which educational institutions are granted tax-exempt status. Other questions include:


How does the NCAA fulfill its proclaimed purpose of maintaining "the athlete as an integral part of the student body"? Only 55 percent of football players and 38 percent of basketball players at Division I-A schools graduate. The New York Times has reported that at Auburn, a perennial football power, many athletes have received "high grades from the same professor for sociology and criminology courses that required no attendance and little work.'' Eighteen members of the undefeated 2004 team took a combined 97 hours of those courses while at Auburn. Who believes such behavior is confined to Auburn?

In recent decades the NCAA has increased the number of games that football and men's basketball teams are allowed to play. Thomas wonders how these changes help athletes improve their academic performances? Perhaps these changes have pecuniary purposes?


The NCAA aims to "retain a clear line of demarcation between intercollegiate athletics and professional sports.'' But aside from not compensating the athletes in a way commensurate with the money they generate for the universities, how is that line clear?


Some say the tax-exempt status of college sports is justified by the fact, and it is a fact, that successful sports teams often trigger increased applications for admission, and largess from alumni and legislatures. But, Thomas notes, "federal taxpayers have no interest in increasing applicant pools at one school opposed to another.'' Furthermore, athletic success that causes a surge of giving to universities may decrease giving to worthy charities.


Also, tax exemption is financing an escalation of coaches' salaries. More than 35 college football coaches are paid more than $1 million annually. The University of Colorado athletic department has borrowed $8 million, much of which will be used to buy out the contract of a fired football coach. Noting that several universities pay their men's basketball coaches four to five times more than their women's basketball coaches, Thomas wonders: "What additional educational benefit do men's basketball coaches provide beyond that which is provided by women's basketball coaches?'' If the disparity has a commercial rather than an educational rationale, why should the commerce be tax-free?


Tax exemption also is a federal subsidy for ever-more lavish facilities: Oklahoma State University, which is receiving $165 million from T. Boone Pickens to improve its athletic facilities, was already planning a $102 million upgrade of its football stadium. OSU charges fans a $2,500 "annual donation'' just to become eligible to buy tickets for the best seats. The University of Michigan, which has had 198 consecutive sellouts at its stadium that now seats 107,501, is spending $226 million to add 3,200 luxury seats and 83 suites. The University of Texas at Austin is spending $150 million to add 10,000 seats to its current 85,123 capacity. These may be sound commercial decisions, but why should this commerce be tax-exempt?


Thomas wants to know how many NCAA members "generate a net profit on the operations of their athletic departments (excluding university subsidies such as student fees or general school funds and services)? Of the institutions that generate a net profit, how many use the profit for purposes unrelated to the athletic department?''


Thomas is retiring, but if Democrats capture control of the House, the new chairman of Ways and Means, Charles Rangel, may hold hearings into the NCAA's tax-free lifestyle. Such hearings will be embarrassing, if people who operate football and basketball factories are capable of embarrassment.

ABO

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college parent....lololololololololol

Just give me a couple of accountants and have the AD and President of the University leave and I'll prove you wrong everytime.

It is absolutely ridiculous how much money they make from their major sports programs....I'm not talking gender equity where they have 18 full rowing scholarships for women even though they only have 4 girls wanting to row!
There's no way a college athlete should be paid anything to play a sport if they're already on scholarship. Is getting a free education not enough for a football player who probably won't graduate anyway? How many of these kids wouldn't even have a chance at college if it weren't for receiving an athletic scholarship? If you start paying D1 athletes, in any sport, you just make another level of professional sports that in our society is unnecessary. We have enough problems.

Personally, I'd like to see the NCAA make a NLI a more binding contract between the school and the athlete. Possibly make student-athletes ineligible for any type of draft until they've been removed from high school for 4 years or have received a certain number of credits. School's could get out of the "contract" if the player gets hurt or grades drop, and athletes could ask to be released but prohibited from moving onto a professional team unless they've completed a certain number of credits. Worst case scenario, these athletes should be made to buy their way out of a scholarship for leaving early.

Major college athletics have become a place for athletes to get their names out so they can sign their big contracts. It's not about the education, and it's the schools who are feasting on this. What are we left with? Selfish, cocky, and arrogant "student-athletes" coming out of these institutes of higher learning with nothing more than a signing bonus that they'll blow very quickly.

I guess my point of view is coming from playing D3 baseball for 4 years, having to work crud jobs year round in order to pay for the love of the game and an education. I don't feel bad one bit for these football and basketball players who complain about not getting paid to play when I'm writing my monthly check to pay off my student loan and they're on ESPN. If I can keep a job, find some $20,000 a year for tuition, and play a sport, these guys should be happy with getting a free education.

Sorry if I got off the topic here, because the NCAA is making too much money and who knows where it's going. It just bothers me when the major sport athletes are whining about money when the majority of them are getting a completely free education to begin with.

Baseball players are a completely different story that I completely understand, and will until they up it to at least 25 scholarships.
While I agree with the basic concept CC is moving on I do see issues both sides might have.

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I'd like to see the NCAA make a NLI a more binding contract between the school and the athlete.

Players/parents probably like the option of being able to leave after 3 years and schools would not want to give up the year-to-year right to revoke or adjust the scholarship of an athlete that is not performing up to standards. Besides, many times those big time names bring in revenue and school noteriety thus the cliche of "2-3 years of something is better than 0 years of nothing".

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these athletes should be made to buy their way out of a scholarship for leaving early.

A buyout is is a viable option on the surface, but in almost all cases that scholarship is re-used and the result is a "double dip" gain by the school and a minimal financial loss for the "bonus-baby" athlete.

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Major college athletics have become a place for athletes to get their names out so they can sign their big contracts.

I'm not an NCAA fan but I do like the commercial that says "98 percent of NCAA athletes become professionals in something other than athletics". Those bonus babies are an exception rather than the rule and I feel that dealing with them may have a negative impact on the majority.

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the NCAA is making too much money and who knows where it's going.


The NCAA should have some "pocket change" in their account from a membership surcharge. However, at the end of the year the piggy bank should be turned upside down and the excess divided between the member schools. How that is divied out is another issue.

On the other side

Even though us parents are throwing money to the schools it is not a family owned co-op. If you don't like what you are paying I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives. We don't seem to have any issues when the academic side of these "power schools" are pulling in billions of research dollars with limited accountability.
Face facts, football is a business for many of the large programs.

My disappointment is that these large programs are ******* in all the corporate sponsorships to support in many cases athlete/students.

Yet there are hundreds of terrific programs D1-D3 that are "starving" to maintain programs and can not raise a dime because they do not get either the regional or national "exposure."

The NCAA is corrupt and congress has stuck its collective head in the sand so they can maintain relationships they need to get re-elected.

Welcome to America.
Disclaimer: I am a pro-business but I do understand your issues ILVBB.

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My disappointment is that these large programs are ******* in all the corporate sponsorships to support in many cases athlete/students.

I hope you do not mean suppport for individual student athletes because that is against the rules Wink. If that's what you do mean, and you have proof of that, you will be a hero of the common man. Does in happen....probably. Often and in excess....I doubt it.

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Yet there are hundreds of terrific programs D1-D3 that are "starving" to maintain programs and can not raise a dime because they do not get either the regional or national "exposure."

Lets say you are an exec for ESPN and you have a choice between covering UT, or Small town Texas U, where are your cameras going? Let's say you own a mega-company called ILVBB-Turf Shoes and you want your logo on team equipment and ads on TV and radio. Your profit is based on market share, are you going to put your dollar at UT, or Small town Texas U? I feel that the networks have reached out to Mid-D1 Collegient football programs by having games covered most nights of the week.

Now College Baseball has to start using it's creative head and figure out it's nitch and how to properly promote its product. Helll, if poker, rodeo, pool and darts can do it college baseball should be able to pull it off. However, I can tell you one thing and that is that the country as a whole is NOT going to want to watch Clemson, FL State, Neb, NC, USC, and Texas all the time and those are the schools that are going to have to put their egos aside for the better good and promote college baseball as a whole.

That should raise some hair Big Grin
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Originally posted by rz1:
Let's say you own a mega-company called ILVBB-Turf Shoes and you want your logo on team equipment and ads on TV and radio. Your profit is based on market share, are you going to put your dollar at UT, or Small town Texas U?


AKA - Marketing 101 Wink

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Originally posted by rz1:
I feel that the networks have reached out to Mid-D1 Collegient football programs by having games covered most nights of the week.

Hence UAB vs SMU last night on ESPN-U.


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Originally posted by rz1: I can tell you one thing and that is that the country as a whole is NOT going to want to watch Clemson, FL State, Neb, NC, USC, and Texas all the time and those are the schools that are going to have to put their egos aside for the better good and promote college baseball as a whole.

I'm a big fan of SC but enjoy seeing ALL of the solid programs televised. It was a treat to see the Birmingham Southern/Coastal Carolina game as much as any of the "big" boys on TV.
Major universities run an "athletic business." When they recruit athletes (not students)in order to make money, that is a business.

It should be taxed.

When the graduation rates are what they are at major football and basketball programs, lets not kid ourselves, they are in it for the money. The NCAA is sanctioning programs to enrich certain schools and benefit professional sports and the boadcasting industry.

Tax the schools and put the money back into programs where kids actual learn and graduate.
George Will is no idiot.

Student Athlete's should receive a stipend.

and.........

The difference in the D1 baseball student athlete's quality of life @ say, a perrenial contender with big attendance figures that includes a football program to match VS an up and coming program struggling to put people in the seats that has a low level or non existant football program can be up to $300,000.00 in the baseball budget.

Something to think about.

Can you say "revenue sharing"?
TR -

At least on this site, reading comprehension has never been your strong suit. You have a mangled understanding of least 3 posts in this thread; 2 of them directed specifically to you. When you're ready to apologize to me for your false accusations, I'm listening.

Meanwhile, back to the topic. I see 2 primary themes in Mr. Will's essay.

1. College athletics is huge money, remains untaxed, and excess revenue (profit) is not used to benefit the educational charter of NCAA institutions.

Sidebar: From the Equity in Athletics reports, here's a look at the top ten football revenue schools (2003-2004):

1) Texas $47,556,281
2) Tennessee $46,704,719
3) Ohio State $46,242,355
4) Florida $42,710,967
5) Georgia $42,104,214
6) Alabama $39,848,836
7) Notre Dame $38,596,090
8) Michigan $38,547,937
9) LSU $38,381,625
10) Auburn $37,173,943


2. If the NCAA includes in its mission the maintenance of "the athlete as an integral part of the student body", how are they fulfilling that mission by:

a) lengthening the playing seasons of its athletes, especially in revenue sports
b) graduating a low percentage of the athlete population in NCAA D1 colleges
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TR:

I'm a guy who reads a lot, including stuff by George Will. Over the years, my point of view has pretty strongly concluded that he is indeed an idiot. If he does not want to be viewed as such, he can stop writing. Mostly I avoid him, because I find him semi-boring as well. This one, I happened to see last Sunday, and my views were reconfirmed, at least to me. Finally, I also have met George several times, and each time we met, my point of view was further reconfirmed. I can swear to this: He never played a competitive sport at any level, thus his credibility (at least with me) is also shot. But I am sure he appreciates you sticking up for him.
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George Will is a good writer and master of "fluff". I feel his researchers do a great job in pulling together information that he can throw together in an article that you cannot argue but at the same time is very pointed in one direction. But that is a columnists job. I quit reading Wills stuff years ago because I've always felt that 1x1 he could not back up many of his ideas. DBG, if you, or many other websters here sat down with George Will and talked about this topic as associated with athletics you would eat him alive. My personal opinion is that his strength is in his readership not his knowledge.
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George does not understand competition or athletic commitment or the value in many, many ways that football (and other sports) add to a university community under most circumstances. Are there situations that need to change? Yes. But they are in the vast minority. George is too much of an idiot (oops, that word again) to figure it out, and he is not nearly as wise as he likes to think.

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