Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics, who will be next? Rock skipping?
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Whoever is willing to pay?
quote:Originally posted by CADad:
Whoever is willing to pay?
Ah, the truth.
Ryan Cook. Need I say more?
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Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics, who will be next? Rock skipping?
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Curling?
But seriously, I agree. Throwing mechanic are throwing mechanics not matter what you have in your hand to throw.
Tim Tebow still doesn't show the specific High Level Movement Patterns that other efficient QB's show, ie Brady, Brees, Favre and yes Vick, I'll throw this guy in there just because his movement patterns are outstanding.
Not sure how long Tom House worked with Tebow or if he has changed any of his teaching methods recently, but I believe that his throwing information is still very much incomplete.
I have nothing against Tom House and I feel that his teaching methods have been for the most part decent, and somewhat closer to complete than others, BUT there are some holes in his throwing drills and as I stated above, I feel his information is still very much incomplete.
Throwing is throwing, no matter what is in your hand...
http://wassermanstrength.com/?p=410
Not sure how long Tom House worked with Tebow or if he has changed any of his teaching methods recently, but I believe that his throwing information is still very much incomplete.
I have nothing against Tom House and I feel that his teaching methods have been for the most part decent, and somewhat closer to complete than others, BUT there are some holes in his throwing drills and as I stated above, I feel his information is still very much incomplete.
Throwing is throwing, no matter what is in your hand...
http://wassermanstrength.com/?p=410
If I were Tebow, I would use the motion that brought me to the dance. That tenth of a second might get him sacked once every 3rd game, or not.
Just focus on your strengths, not someone elses.
Just focus on your strengths, not someone elses.
No question he can get away with it because the guy is just an amazing athlete. He dominated college football because of this. Can't take that away from him. I think this guy will be a great QB if he cleans up his patterns.
In terms of High Level Throwing, he just doesn't show the consistent pattern that other QB's display.
In terms of High Level Throwing, he just doesn't show the consistent pattern that other QB's display.
Tom House has forgotten more about pitching than many people will ever know.
However one of the things I most respect about him is his admission that some of the old thoughts on pitching he promoted for years have been proved wrong. Sadly he says those things are still being taught today and people critical of him don't even realize those methods are ones he developed, and now discredits.
It takes a humble man to be able to admit his mistakes, especially when he was responsible for the misconceptions to begin with.
The fact he is always striving to use technology(i.e. high speed video, computer analysis, etc.)to help develop new ways of helping pitchers reach their maximum potential just goes to show why QB's are now seeking out his advice.
However one of the things I most respect about him is his admission that some of the old thoughts on pitching he promoted for years have been proved wrong. Sadly he says those things are still being taught today and people critical of him don't even realize those methods are ones he developed, and now discredits.
It takes a humble man to be able to admit his mistakes, especially when he was responsible for the misconceptions to begin with.
The fact he is always striving to use technology(i.e. high speed video, computer analysis, etc.)to help develop new ways of helping pitchers reach their maximum potential just goes to show why QB's are now seeking out his advice.
Very well said, Vector.
Earlier this Fall the SF Bay Area quietly witnessed a Tom House triple play...49ers QB Alex Smith, SF Giants LHP Barry Zito, and Oakland A's starter Tommy Milone all won their games on the same Sunday afternoon.
What's more, during the WS this year Zito's agent, Scott Boras, told a local reporter that he credits much of Zito's 2012 turn-around to the strength & conditioning and mechanics work House did with him over the 2011 - 2012 off-season.
Tom House is not the only good coach for throwing athletes...but he is certainly one of the very best. What blows my mind is that Coach House is still personally accessible to youngsters for training.
Earlier this Fall the SF Bay Area quietly witnessed a Tom House triple play...49ers QB Alex Smith, SF Giants LHP Barry Zito, and Oakland A's starter Tommy Milone all won their games on the same Sunday afternoon.
What's more, during the WS this year Zito's agent, Scott Boras, told a local reporter that he credits much of Zito's 2012 turn-around to the strength & conditioning and mechanics work House did with him over the 2011 - 2012 off-season.
Tom House is not the only good coach for throwing athletes...but he is certainly one of the very best. What blows my mind is that Coach House is still personally accessible to youngsters for training.
Agreed. I'm glad people see how important someone can be to development for being around for so long and introducing ideas, retracting those ideas and then learning something new and implementing it in training...always striving to get better. Humble indeed.
However, that is what I am presenting. I am challenging old ideas that have not truly been challenged yet and introducing new ideas and concepts to find the most efficient ways to teach throwing. Using video analysis, my biomechanics and kinesiology background along with other motor learning specialists to help find a better way.
Why is it that the majority of youth, hs and college players still have inefficient throwing mechanics?
It's because positions are being trained... not movements. This is why the throwing model is still very much incomplete
However, that is what I am presenting. I am challenging old ideas that have not truly been challenged yet and introducing new ideas and concepts to find the most efficient ways to teach throwing. Using video analysis, my biomechanics and kinesiology background along with other motor learning specialists to help find a better way.
Why is it that the majority of youth, hs and college players still have inefficient throwing mechanics?
It's because positions are being trained... not movements. This is why the throwing model is still very much incomplete
quote:Why is it that the majority of youth, hs and college players still have inefficient throwing mechanics?
---Actually I would assert that, overall, the mechanics-training for efficient throwing mechanics has enjoyed tremendous progress over the past two decades. In baseball, there seem to be more and more pitchers throwing harder than ever before.
It may be ironic, and it certainly is problematic, that arm-injury rates do not seem to be declining with mechanics improvements--it's almost as though pitching mechanics have gotten so good that many more pitchers today are able to test the upper stress limits of the tissues from which their bodies are made. In some ways, this situation seems analogous with evolutionary design of ever more powerful engines, but without commensurate improvement in the specs of materials used to build engines.
Thus, higher mechanical throwing efficiency alone may lead to higher velocity, but without commensurate improvements in functional strength and conditioning you get an arm that may be doomed to a short lifetime.
Unfortunately, it is probably easier for young pitchers to improve their mechanics to the point where they can throw hard enough to hurt themselves than it is to become deeply engaged in the tedious and difficult process of year-round strength & conditioning improvement needed to support their mechanics.
Good luck in what you're doing, austinwass--like I said, there are many good coaches and I sincerely hope that you are one them. If you are good, the clients you work with will give you testimonials like this one:
"Starting from about 9 yo, all my kid wanted to do in baseball was pitch...I didn't know much about pitching at the time, but I can read. Within the space of about one year I bought and read somewhere around 20 different books about pitching, written by as many different authors...some pitching experts seemed to make almost no sense at all, some made sense some of the time and wobbled a bit at other times, and Tom House's books--especially "The Picture Perfect Pitcher" were a tremendous revelation for me and my son.
We were delighted to find out that Tom was still actively training youngsters, HS players, college players, coaches, and pro clients and we started taking yearly family vacations to Southern California (first San Diego, later LA) that coincided with House's pitching clinics.
Eight years later, and after more fun than anybody has a right to experience, my son has been recruited to pitch for his top D-1 college choice.
Thank you, Tom, it's been a great time so far and it's only getting better."
With true gratitude,
laflippin
Awesome story la!
Awesome story as well! I do have many testimonials from youth, high school, college and professional athletes that I just haven't posted on my website or haven't really made them public. I guess I've kept them under the radar for a reason.
I didn't want to become another development coach exploiting these athletes. I want people to come to me based on the information that is given, the information taught....but I will be sharing some of my testimonials and posting them on my site soon
Great story again!
Austin
I didn't want to become another development coach exploiting these athletes. I want people to come to me based on the information that is given, the information taught....but I will be sharing some of my testimonials and posting them on my site soon
Great story again!
Austin
Thanks guys...appreciate it!
Austin, I get what you mean about exploitation. I record a lot of short baseball video clips and post them on YouTube for people to study or use in any legitimate way they like. Some of these, especially clips of pro players, have attracted a lot of attention, including at least one shameless guy (well-known to most pitchers, I'm sure) who embedded one of my Lincecum clips on his website, "analyzed" it, and wrote a paragraph that made it sound like Lincecum was working with him and listening to his advice. Coach____ even refused my private requests to take it down from his site until I resorted to temporarily re-titling the video, "____ is a clown"...lol.
But on the other hand, testimonials are not really exploitation if they are freely given from a sense of gratitude. If your clients learned valuable things from you, and they want to say so out loud....let 'em!
Austin, I get what you mean about exploitation. I record a lot of short baseball video clips and post them on YouTube for people to study or use in any legitimate way they like. Some of these, especially clips of pro players, have attracted a lot of attention, including at least one shameless guy (well-known to most pitchers, I'm sure) who embedded one of my Lincecum clips on his website, "analyzed" it, and wrote a paragraph that made it sound like Lincecum was working with him and listening to his advice. Coach____ even refused my private requests to take it down from his site until I resorted to temporarily re-titling the video, "____ is a clown"...lol.
But on the other hand, testimonials are not really exploitation if they are freely given from a sense of gratitude. If your clients learned valuable things from you, and they want to say so out loud....let 'em!
