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Too intense or Not...your opinion?

M mrmom500+ posts
In our State's HS playoffs there are 4 teams left. I went to one of their websites and it was password protected...not uncommon, especially with little kids and privacy etc. but for HS I've never seen it.

But this site says, email so and so for the password...so I did and was told the password option was made so "other teams" can't scout them. I was asked if I was from the other team and I could of lied but didn't.

So, is a public HS baseball website something that should be private or is that a little too extreme?

My opinion as a Dad and fan is, it's not football, and I'm pretty sure the coaches of all the teams know the scouting reports of those teams anyway. What if other HSs and colleges did that? We're not stealing the plays and I doubt the website says #27 can't hit the changeup or the catcher has a 2.5 pop time...

I was surprised by this just curious about others opinions.
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hokieonehokieone5,000+ posts
Some coaches have pretty intense feelings on such things. Our high school coach, one that we feel is one of the best anywhere, does not release any statistics for our players to the media until the season is over. Parents grumble a bit about not seeing the boys "names in the paper" but the coach has two main reasons:

(1) No sense giving opposing teams scouting info;
(2) Lots of important things don't show up statistically (moving runners up, sac bunts, base-running, defense, etc.), and he only wants his kids focused on 1 number, the team's win-loss record, till the season is done.
B Bee>1,000+ posts
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by H-1: Some coaches have pretty intense feelings on such things. Our high school coach ... does not release any statistics for our players to the media until the season is over
Frown that's a classic sign of cooking the books

0A) - at season end guys whom your coach feels are deserving of awards will have BA's just a bit higher & ERA's just a bit lower than those around the league who were published all season ...
odd how that works out Wink
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TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
Bee

Don't be cynical---I know many coaches HS and college who do not want the players concerned with statistics other than the won/lost record

Some coaches feel that if a player becomes too concnerned with his personal stats he is not focusing on the team aspect.


We do not maintain stats for our Fall travel team but I do know some coaches who even go so far as to put the stats in the newspapers, even stats from showcases
Infield08Infield081,000+ posts
I think it's a ridiculous policy. Like you said, the website isn't likely to list how many homers Johnny has hit or what Matt's pop time is. By restricting access, the coach is limiting opportunites for college programs to learn more about potential recruits.

I've seen the same thing on websites for summer select teams -- the teams that are supposedly designed to help their players get to the next level. In those cases, I wonder if the teams are paranoid that some other select program will see who is playing for them and try to steal their players away.
TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
infield08

We have a fall "select" team as you term it---we do not, as I said above, even keep statistics---the college coaches want to see the kid play not read his numbers--more important is for the college coaches to know where we are playing every weekend so they can be there to see them play---if they want further info on a play they will contact us---to be truthful they are more interested, once they see a kid play and like him, in what type of kid is he, family stability , academics,etc


Too many of you are hung up on statistics---forget it---the numbers are only relative to the competition the kid plays against---player A may not be playing the same level of competition as player B so how do you compare
S spizzlepop1,000+ posts
I find it odd that many HS coaches hide their stats, when stats are such a big part of documenting the game in the modern era. They may claim they're protecting players from becoming too self-centered, or protecting their team from scouting, or just down-playing the importance of stats. Often they're just unwilling to put the time into recording and or posting them; it does take a lot of time. I'm not disputing TR's view that college recruiters couldn't care less. They really don't!
But lots of people do care, and it's a widely acceptable way to measure performance for those who want to get deeper into the game.
I'm with Bee here, if you don't report regularly and honestly, the potential for coaches to twist and otherwise abuse the numbers to promote their own players and/or programs is too great.
T TripleDad500+ posts
The point TRHIT makes is obviously true about the level of competetion, but the thing that makes stats even more suspicious is their integrity. You have the coaches fudge factor AND who is keeping the book! If it is a parent or player (often times it is) ya wonder.

Restricting web site access is silly. Especially for coaches cited reasons. If you are one of 4 teams left in the State, more information has been
gleaned from opposing scouts at your games than could ever be taken from a website.

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