Top academic programs in south

Duke
Univ. of Richmond
William & Mary
Emory

come immediately to mind to fit your criteria ...

In Texas:
Trinity University in San Antonio
Southwestern U in Georgetown

Or course there's Rice but if you're not interested in Vanderbilt Rice wouldn't fit either.

Davidson College is very strong.

The following are known for great academics. All are ranked highly by the US News college report. Of this list, Ouachita, ACU, DBU and Trinity probably have the strongest baseball programs.

Some of these schools have great facilities and fields (e.g., ACU, DBU, LCU, HSU, OkBU), better than quite a few D1's (DBU is a D1, of course).

In Texas:
Trinity University
Southwestern University
Austin College
Abilene Christian University
Hardin-Simmons University
Dallas Baptist University
McMurry University
University of Dallas
Concordia University
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor
Howard Payne University
Lubbock Christian University
Houston Baptist University

In Oklahoma:
Oklahoma City University
Oklahoma Baptist University

In Arkansas:
Ouachita Baptist University
University of the Ozarks

Education is only as good as what you put into it. Undegrad studies are very similar no matter where you go in a 4 year program. A liberal arts degree is only a beginning,
The university should start you thinking and they don't spoon feed you like HS. My son is taking a commerce degree like I did which is a very useful degree. He is actually reading books on his own and asked for a business book for Xmas (Trump). Now he is starting to question me where I went wrong. Too much education might be a dangerous thing ????

From USN&WR top colleges:

Baccalaureate Colleges (South): Top Schools

From Top 100 Liberal Arts in US:

Davidson (NC)
Washington & Lee (VA)
Furman (SC)
Sewanee-U of the South (TN)
Richmond (VA)
Centre (KY)
Rhodes (TN)
Wofford (SC)
Hendrix (AR)
VMI (VA)
Spelman (GA)
Berea (KY)
Birmingham-Southern (AL)
Sweet Briar (VA)
Millsaps (MS)
Transylvania (KY)
New College of Florida (FL)
Randolph (VA)
Lyon (AR)
Hollins (VA)

Note: don't know if they all have baseball programs

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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Undegrad studies are very similar no matter where you go in a 4 year program.

That statement would require further explanation.

Thanks for the responses. I have visited a few of the schools listed. This includes Furman, Davidson, Sewanee, Millsaps, William and Mary, VMI, and Richmond all of which are incredible schools. Out of the schools that everyone has posted, does anyone have a particular reccomendation, including both academics and their experience with the program regardless of win/loss records.

Does anyone know if VMI is a stict military institute?

would highly suggest a strong look at Trinity University if you want the very best academic school in Texas (behind Rice) combined with a commitment to baseball.

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That statement would require further explanation

The info you study in under grad courses is generally the same info. Same text books and the porofs usually don't hand feed you in college. If you study commerce for xample the requirements are the sme to get a degree. My son's school is internationally recognized for its commerce program. Not even sure what that means but apparently it is true. They had the most Presidential Honor roll students in the Big South Confirence and yet you won't find the school in any list. One senior landed a six figure job last spring. No one said hey your school isn't any good. They looked at his achievement.
I am not sure what the current name brands in economic books are but in my day it was Sammuleson which was the standard in all colleges. Now if you acquire an understanding of his principles you could be at any college and pass economics 101.
Most schools offer opportunity and it is up to the student to acuire that knowledge.
One thing I learned years ago was that the high marks don't mean success in life. Most of the best Lawyers for example and usually the middle of the road guys with a well rounded back ground.
Some of my profs were the strangest guys I ever encountered especially in certain subjects.

San Antonio (Trinity) is a great city too. Have heard good things also about Mercer in Georgia.

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Originally posted by bayoukid:
Thanks for the responses. I have visited a few of the schools listed. This includes Furman, Davidson, Sewanee, Millsaps, William and Mary, VMI, and Richmond all of which are incredible schools. Out of the schools that everyone has posted, does anyone have a particular reccomendation, including both academics and their experience with the program regardless of win/loss records.

Does anyone know if VMI is a stict military institute?

Yes, VMI is military.

Richmond has a pretty good baseball history behind it. The new coach there, Mark McQueen, is very highly regarded, and the program is traditionally very comptetitive in a conference where the top half is also competitive.

bk, what position do you play? What will be your major?

bhd, from my experience the quality of instructors and the rigor of courses varies significantly from school to school. A serious student can carry away more from a course taught by an excellent instructor who teaches the course in a rigorous manner. I could not agree with the assumption apparently implied by your statement that all undergrad studies are similar no matter where you go.

And school reputation plays a significant role in recruiting.

The importance of college grades fades some with each passing year after college, eventually losing most all of their significance. But some top notch companies do pay a great deal of attention to grades when hiring out of college. They use grades as the initial cut.

Grades aside where have you been seen baseballwise--- The grades are great but if you don't have what the scouts/coaches wnat then it matters not---


What sort of exposure have you had?

Texan grades are important but some of the best Lawyers as an example are not the ones with top marks.
Having studied at 3 schools, U of Toronto, Dalhousie and the Inns of Court in London Englend I can tell you my experience is that under grad studies are much the same. Yes a great prof can get better results out of some students and yes the guys who go to Harvard and like schools do have a leg up. Their reputations come mostly from grad studies.

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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Texan grades are important but some of the best Lawyers as an example are not the ones with top marks.
Having studied at 3 schools, U of Toronto, Dalhousie and the Inns of Court in London Englend I can tell you my experience is that under grad studies are much the same. Yes a great prof can get better results out of some students and yes the guys who go to Harvard and like schools do have a leg up. Their reputations come mostly from grad studies.

Well, all I can say is my experience is very different.

Grades don't prevent someone from being successful. That is obvious. However, for recent grads, grades can provide the opportunity to succeed with some companies.

Reputations aren't limited to grad schools. I can tell you from first hand experience (as both a prospective employee and the hiring entity) that an undergrad degree from Rice, Texas or Texas A&M will carry more weight with many employers than a degree from Paul Quinn.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

I have been to best in Virginia, LSU's winter camp, and have been given evaluations from college coaches at some other camps.

I am an outfielder/pitcher. The basic consensus is that I have very good contact, average to slightly below average power from the plate. Good outfield skills with a slightly above average arm and average speed (7.1). From the hill I have been told good movement, below average control and have been clocked at 79. In terms of being contacted, in conversations I have had with DI coaches (mostly mid major schools), all of them said a recruited walk on was a possibility except at LSU (which is OK because I didn't really want to go there anyway). Nichols state is the only coach that displayed a lot of interest in recruiting me, but my parents wouldn't let me go there even if it was a full ride. I have been getting plenty of mail from dIII colleges, I figure that if I can't get scholarship money then a dIII would be great because I can probably play earlier.

Assuming you are a HS senior what schools have you applied to for admission?

Bayou what is wrong with LSU. My son played against a couple guys from Jesuit HS that go there. It is a great school.

RJM, I'm thinking you can probably delete the girls' schools from your list!

Heck, MD, you're no fun...

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Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
RJM, I'm thinking you can probably delete the girls' schools from your list!

What a stick in the mud.

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by Tex: I can tell you from first hand experience (as both a prospective employee and the hiring entity) that an undergrad degree from Rice, Texas or Texas A&M will carry more weight with many employers than a degree from Paul Quinn.

I don't doubt you for a minute, but that's YOUR pond ...
I could say the same for "John Carrol U"

in other regions of the US some may not even recognize those schools you mentioned - -

AND out of your area Texas and A&M are one and the same (cow schools)


btw, which is the main & which is the branch/satellite campus??

Bobblehead, there is nothing wrong with LSU, it is just too big of a school for me. I would prefer to stay in a small school enviornment as I stated in my first post.

I have applied to Sewanee and Furman, I will apply to safeties later and if any coach contacts me then I can apply there especially if it is common app.

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Originally posted by Bee>:
in other regions of the US some may not even recognize those schools you mentioned - -

Anyone with a modicum of education or knowledge will know the three schools I mentioned. I have been all over these United States and found that to be the case. And all three have been readily recognized when I traveled to Europe.

I could have used Stanford, MIT or some of the Ivies as examples. The same would be true.

What does modicum mean?

"mod·i·cum /ˈmɒdɪkəm/ [mod-i-kuhm]
–noun
a moderate or small amount"

Now had you gone to one of the institutions of higher learning which I mentioned, you would have known that...

with Texan.
Both schools have tremendously active and influential alumni asoociations.
But to address your queston...Tulane is in your backyard...I understand it's not in the greatest "town", but academically, it may be what you are looking for. Business, law, architecture & Pre-med school are highly toughted, with an emphasis on public service.
Yep, they have a pretty good D-1 baseball team, as well!! Son is a pitcher & has done well the last year, in spite of the "city". Freshmen & sophomores are required to live on campus.

Bayoukid, I attended Sewanee and know a current freshman baseball player at Furman. PM me if you have any questions.

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by Tex: I have been all over these United States and found that to be the case. And all three have been readily recognized when I traveled to Europe

hey, ya got ONE guy agreeing with ya and he's from ...... Texas


btw, still figuring on which one is the main "cow school" campus??

is one in Stillwater??

or are they both branch campus of UTA??

is one an "online school"??

are they DI??

do they both have football??


I do think Bobblehead has the set & match _

Btw, I transferred from Sewanee to TCU after having a horrific car accident. (I flew through the windshield and was thrown 40 feet.) After being in the hospital for 2 months, I decided I wanted to attend an in-state school closer to home.

At Sewanee, I busted my chops and made mostly B's and C's. Classes were held 6 days a week and there was a h-u-g-e emphasis on academics. Almost everyone went on to get a graduate degree.

When I transferred to TCU, I did half the work and made the Dean's List. IMHO, there was definitely a significant discrepancy between the academic rigor of the two schools. (That said, I believe my journalism degree from TCU was much more marketable than the liberal arts degree I would have gotten from Sewanee.)

Incidentally, I believe TCU has brought its academic standards way up since I attended in the early 1980's. TCU also has a superior baseball program if you're comparing it to Sewanee.

IF08, sincere regrets on your accident

your account brought to mind a recent news story

Guiness Record of being thrown 118 ft in accident

gosh, I bet the guy who was thrown 117' 8 1/2" is bumming while that his record was beat while still in traction in ICU

Ouch!

bee, your wit is just...

IF08, I would recommend exiting via the door next time. Wow.

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Originally posted by Texan:
"mod·i·cum /ˈmɒdɪkəm/ [mod-i-kuhm]
–noun
a moderate or small amount"

Now had you gone to one of the institutions of higher learning which I mentioned, you would have known that...

StarDad/Texan,

Speaking of cow schools, which did you attend?

You sound so smart, you tried to milk a bull.

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... was much more marketable than the liberal arts degree ...

Isn't "liberal arts" French for "I have to go to grad school."

What about Rhodes in Memphis?

Furman is a GREAT school with good baseball. Really loved it there when I went up with my son to a camp there.

Rhodes is a great academic school with a baseball program that is on the rise

We have a player on their roster at the present time and they are talking with a couple of our players currently, one of who is waiting to hear on early admission