Transfer/Eligibility Question

As I cant directly answer your question, I'll poke at some things. 1st taking a year off from baseball is not going to help out your friend. its probably in his best interest to play that year in junior college so schools can still see him play and he wont be out of the swing of things....As for the grades, I believe all he really needs to worry about is that his classes from the D2 will transfer to the D1, and that he just covers the rest of his basics while at the junior college.

I understand what you are saying. Anytime a student transfers, there are always some credits that won't. I think he is more concerned with having 3 years of baseball eligibility left on the D1 level when all is said and done. I had suggested 4-2-4 as a possibility, and for some reason he doesn't want to do this.

I don't understand the question. The first post sounds like playing at a 4 year school, transferring to a JC, and then to a different 4 year school. That is termed a 4-2-4 transfer.

In a subsequent post, apparently a 4-2-4 isn't one of the preferred options.

So I'm not sure what scenario is being considered.

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
I don't understand the question. The first post sounds like playing at a 4 year school, transferring to a JC, and then to a different 4 year school. That is termed a 4-2-4 transfer.

In a subsequent post, apparently a 4-2-4 isn't one of the preferred options.

So I'm not sure what scenario is being considered.

He doesn't plan to play baseball at the JC - not your typical 4-2-4. He just will go to the JC, and build up college credits, then play the remaining 3 years of his baseball eligibility at a D1 school. My question is, will he have 3 years of playing time left once he arrives at the D1 school, or must he still sit out a year at the D1, since he will not play baseball during his JC year?

Maybe I am just showing my lack of understanding of what a 4-2-4 transfer is... Thank you for your help.

To avoid sitting a year, he needs to perform a 4-2-4 transfer (or have not been recruited to the D2 nor received any athletic money). He will become a 4-2 transfer by enrolling full time at the JC, even if he doesn't play or practice.

Then when he transfers to the D1, he'll be a 4-2-4. If for some reason, he only enrolls part time at the JC, then he likely won't be considered a transfer to the JC. In that case, his transfer to the D1 would be a 4-4, and he'd have to sit.

He should make sure that he was a qualifier out of high school, as judged by the D1 rules, which are more stringent than D2 rules for GPA, test scores, and number of core classes. If he wasn't a D1 level qualifier, he'll need to get an AA degree from the JC, or sit a year.

D1 has a number of requirements associated with academic progress. Going to a JC "to build credits" makes me wonder if he will qualify academically for D1 after a year of D2 and a year of JC. Upon entering his 3rd year of college, D1 rules require that he declare a major and have completed 40% of the courses required for that particular degree. If he is short on credits now, it may be very difficult to get in all the required courses in one year at the JC. Staying two years at the JC only makes it harder, because he need 60% at the beginning of the 4th year, and most JCs don't offer third year level courses.

3FG - Thank you, exactly the information he was looking for!

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D1 has a number of requirements associated with academic progress. Going to a JC "to build credits" makes me wonder if he will qualify academically for D1 after a year of D2 and a year of JC. Upon entering his 3rd year of college, D1 rules require that he declare a major and have completed 40% of the courses required for that particular degree.

Question for 3 finger, is the progress rate different for D2? D3? NAIA?

Just to be clear, the Academic Progress Rate is a D1-only concept that applies to each team within a college's athletic program. Teams meet APR by having enough players get passing grades and returning for the following term.

I suspect you're asking about Progress-Toward-Degree requirements covered in 14.4 of the division Manuals. These are different for each division, with D1 having the most stringent requiements. Both D1 and D2 have more than 4 pages of rules on this subject, so it isn't practical to summarize. D3 is very simple: the college decides if the player is making adequate progress. For NAIA, a rough summary is the player must have averaged 12 hours per term.

thanks 3 finger. I get that it is very complicated. And yes I meant the progress towards degree and not APR.