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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
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should that be viewed as a red flag regarding that program

You will have quite a collection of red flags. There are many reasons for transfering. These lists show guys who got realeases. There may be twice as many that would like a release.


Considering the proposed changes, wouldn't you think a release is an easy task these days?
Looking at the list, they are not complete, there are more that transfer out to JC's, D2, D3, and NAIA that don't look to have been reported, even D1 transfers that are not reported.

Being a transfer list, it also does not report those guys who have just been asked to quit and may be out of baseball.

Those are also "red" flags to a program.
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Originally posted by Bee>:
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How is one released and find a school so quickly? Are the athletes taking another chance at fighting for playing time- walking on without being a recruit?
most arrainged mid yr transfers are with current coach's help

those guys transferring will be in uniform come spring


Which coach is worst, the one who over recruits and cuts guys that they recruited or the coach who does not recruit well and gets a mid-year transfer and displace those who thought they had a chance through the fall?

It is a reminder that college sports is a business of winning, not necessary loyalty to the recruits or those who have put work into the team.
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Originally posted by Homerun04:
Which coach is worst, the one who over recruits and cuts guys that they recruited or the coach who does not recruit well and gets a mid-year transfer and displace those who thought they had a chance through the fall?


IMO, both.

Good college coaches recruit HS players and work with those players. Transfers should be recruited when there is a need to fill a spot left by other circumstances (draft, injuries) and available to play asap while the younger players (freshman) have time to grow. With that in mind, I would be more interested in workign under those coaches.

When we were looking for programs, I was shocked to see a top program with a roster of 1/3 transfers. I was also shocked to see how many had left after teh first year. That to me tells a lot about a coach, his philososphy and where you might or might not stand before you even get there.

JMO.
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When we were looking for programs, I was shocked to see a top program with a roster of 1/3 transfers.


One D1 program my son considered this fall currently has a roster size of 37 with 19 players -- over 50% -- coming from JUCO's. A D2 he looked at has 56% of its rostered players transferring from other colleges. Not very encouraging numbers for a high school prospect.
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Worth adding...

The Rivals list linked above is an incomplete list of over-the-summer transfers...likley arranged in advance...assuming they followed through and were welcomed, all the players listed are in fall camp now(checked the ASU transfers and they both are). These players have used up/taken their single "free" transfer.

Assuming new NCAA rules remain...large fall rosters will shrink to 35...some very good players who would have previously made the rosters will be looking for a new home...the market will likley be flooded with very good and formerly DI rostered players...IMO has large ramifications for all NCAA divisions and JC as these talented players start looking for a new teams. Already know of some quality DI's making arrangements for DII...

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by O44: large fall rosters will shrink to 35...some very good players who would have previously made the rosters will be looking for a new home
agree it's a key point to keep in mind ...
somebody has to go - either cut loose upperclassmen or bring in a very small or NO recruiting class

it would seem that an "early NLI" offer in hand is MUCH more valuable/desirable than in yrs past
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