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so am trying here....

In researching JUCO options with our son, we visited the NJCAA website that states the eligibility guidelines are so complex that we should speak to the specific school about the criteria. He is a Jr and hoping there were some general guidelines or experiences we could glean from this forum. The guidelines for NCAA Div I & II and NAIA are pretty clear and am ignorant on what would make the NJCAA more complicated.

Any information greatly appreciated
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Is he a junior in high school, I'm assuming. There aren't many limitations when he comes in as a new freshman. You start out with a clean slate.

As soon as you start taking full time class load your 5 year clock starts and then the rules kick in.

You can PM a guy on here called 3FingeredGlove. he knows the rules so well that every time the NCAA has a hearing they just make the coach put their hand on 3Finger' Head since using a Bible would be taboo.
I see that statement also on the NJCAA site, but the rules for an entering student freshman player are very simple: he needs to have graduated from HS or have a GED. There were some other provisions for non-graduated players, but these have been removed beginning fall 2011.

The NJCAA also has a set of rules regarding amateur status. There are a lot of these rules, but these are much less restrictive than the NCAA rules.

Unlike NCAA and, more recently, the NAIA, NJCAA has no eligibility clearinghouse. They do use the NCAA list to identify high schools whose diploma is not accepted:
NCAA list of "ineligible" high schools

Why not just read the rules-- it's only a few pages.
NJCAA Eligibility Rules
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I could be wrong...and I would certainly check with the school for specifics...but based on the fact that eligibility and entry for JC is pretty straightforward...(outside of some specific testing at some schools)...

...Perhaps they are talking about the next step which is the move from JC to 4 year for athletes which can present some challenges and should be researched early as the sooner one begins to understand the pitfalls the faster than can begin to plan for the opportunities...you might want to begin by referencing these two HSBBW threads.

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/f...257032495#5257032495

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/f...=687102191#687102191

While the threads referenced refer to 3 year stays in JC's...the degree progress requirements, and unit transfers for any future move are well worth understanding and planning for prior to enrolling at JC.

Cool44
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My son has been out of college ball for a couple of years, but we ended up with close discussions with several JUCOs (a long story I won't go into). I can tell you that JUCOs range greatly with their talent and with their expectations. One coach told us that the JUCO my son had originally committed to had high academic expectations and that his did not. The coach was completely honest which I appreciated - he, himself, even scheduled his players classes. (This is not the school my son ended up attending) Some carry reasonable size rosters. Some load their rosters with more players than the majorities of 4 year schools. I think because the guidelines carry less restrictions on JUCOs and recruiting, that means you also end up having to do more homework because the variety can be great. JMO Smile
observer44 is quite right to emphasize the potential difficulities involved in transferring from a a JC.

I suspect however that the NJCAA isn't really worried about that. Here's what they say:
Due to the unique academic and athletic situation of each individual, and the complexity of the NJCAA eligibility rules, it is
recommended that each potential student-athlete discuss their athletic eligibility with the athletic personnel at the NJCAA college
where they have chosen to attend. Should the athletic staff have any questions in determining an individual's eligibility, the
college may contact the NJCAA National Office for assistance.


I think the NJCAA is trying to avoid inquiries about eligibility from prospective athletes. Having the player ask a JC instead is a way to cut down on calls, some of which are from hopefuls who aren't talented enough to make any team.

In some respects, it is similar to the situation with the NCAA eligibility center--lots of players submit information, but very little or nothing is done with that info until a college tells the center that it is interested. It acts as a work reducing filter.
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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove: I think the NJCAA is trying to avoid inquiries about eligibility from prospective athletes. Having the player ask a JC instead is a way to cut down on calls, some of which are from hopefuls who aren't talented enough to make any team.

In some respects, it is similar to the situation with the NCAA eligibility center--lots of players submit information, but very little or nothing is done with that info until a college tells the center that it is interested. It acts as a work reducing filter.


This makes agreat deal of sense...leave it to 3FG to make it all clear...

Cool 44
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