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Is it necessary for me to play my senior year of high school ball to get recruited by a college or would they look down on me if I didn't? Last summer I played for a traveling team and my high school coach resents it. Hasn't let me play even one inning during this my junior season--all because of travel ball. I am by far the best catcher with a big bat. I have gotten some good attention from colleges and pros up to this point. Will they back off because I'm not being used by my h.s. coach? I'm so afraid he will ruin all my chances if the colleges contact him. I don't see much point in sticking around with him next year although I would love to play h.s. ball.Moving is not an option for my family. I don't like sitting the bench and I don't think he will use me(making an example of me). He wants total control. All I did was try to improve my game by playing more games and at a higher level.Seems so unfair to me. Maybe I can do better with just travel ball. Would that even be possible?
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You don't need HS ball to play in college, but it definiatley will not look good to college recruiters if you don't. A benched roster player is better than a non-player if you know what I mean.

A few things if you are thinking about playing college ball..

"I am by far the best catcher with a big bat"... Every player in college was probably the best on their team and for the most part, all probably had a big bat..

"I'm so afraid he will ruin all my chances if the colleges contact him."... Schools will contact your HS coach.. that is thier job.. quiting won't be a good thing as this is what your HS coach will tell them.. you quit.. Better to work your tail off at practice and wait for a chance to play then to quit..

"I don't like sitting the bench "... MOST college players sit the bench.. only nine on the field with an average roster of 25-30 means more bench time than playing time for most players.

"He wants total control".. He should have total control.. he is the coach.. You have not even seen total control until you get to college.. basically the coaches control every aspect of your life.. They tell you what you can and can't do.. where you can go and where you can't go... When you eat, when you sleep.. They even get someone to tell you what classes you need and when to take them.. That is control and it is the life of ever college player..

Now then.. You need to make an appointment with your coach to speak with him one on one, sit down and tell him your fears and concerns.. Bring him copies from here if you need to to show him how important travel and showcasing is, act like a mature adult in your conversation with him and you may earn enough respect from him to tell you his thoughts and plans.. It may be he doesn't think you are the best catcher and best bat, he may have suggestions on what you need to do to earn playing time..

From this meeting make your decision on what is best.
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I agree with sitting down and attempting to have a rational discussion, where I also agree it makes sense to take the respectful road and let him call the shots.

Accepting your assessment of the problem as gospel, I think there may be a good chance he will want to control where you play summer baseball. This is the typical "difficult to think rational about someone who is acting irrational." I just do not think he will change.

Obviously there are two approaches 1) you go where he ask or 2) you go where you want to go. In this case I think you need to make your choice based upon where you want to go to college and where you can be seen by that college.

Maybe there is a compromise. In your discussion with your coach you agree to play where he ask provided he lets you attend appropriate showcases/clinics to be seen by the coaches you are interested in.

Sidebar, there is no doubt the college coaches are out during the summer and fall, but bear in mind you are going to be showing them the results of your hard work over the winter and during the high school season. No matter which way you decide, you HAVE to work on your game. Otherwise you decision is a mute point.

Bullpens are not the most fun, but you can work on your footwork, blocking and framing. Even work on helping pitchers with their mechanics. I know a lot of catchers that get upset being the bullpen catcher and through anger and disappoint they waste their most precious commodity, TIME!

Do not give up.
Thanks for your help. I am lined up to attend a good showcase and I guess I'll go to some camps. I really want to play with a great summer team which I have been invited to play on but my h.s. coach has said no way. The frustrating thing is that I don't think he will even use me and I see him as standing in my way during a very important time--the summer of my junior year. If I do as my h.s. coach wishes I have my doubts as to where it will get me. I really try so hard to please him bit just can't seem to. I really don't feel that he likes me or wants to see me succeed. This does hurt my confidence and I am fighting that. I'm sorry if I sound negative. I am very down and I want to do what is right so I won't have any regrets about this important decision I've got to make. I want you to know that I don't act down at practice or during games and I never display a bad attitude. I'm giving it my all and am supportive of the other guys.
I think there is more to this than what we are reading------

No info as to whether or not the boy played varsity as a soph--

Simple question--- why are so many allowing baseball to control their life ? All too often I see "Moving is not an option" and that is , top me anyway, a COP-OUT--you can keep running every time you don't get what you want

Has anyone ever stopped to think about this--- on a baseball team there are starters and there are substitues---not every kid can be a starter---

To you players out there--- it is great to want to be a starter and to think that you should but perhaps, just perhaps, you do not have the talent at this time to be a starter--- instead of complaining, blaming others and looking for excuses and a way out--- work harder and strive to earn what you think you deserve--

And then again

Perhaps you are not the talent you or your parents think you are--- think about it and learn to cope with the situation-- I for one am tired of hearing all the excuses

GET OUT THERE AND WORK HARD--if you do that and you still don't get playing time then somebody is telling you something

Justmom, Al, and TR....all bring-up legitimate points! Up here in our area, and maybe in others, we also have to deal politics. Somebody runs a travel team, or buys coaches lunches and dinners, or is an old school alumni......get the picture??

You have to bide-your-time, pay-your-dues, earn your spot, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication, and that still doesn't guarantee you anything.

I have seen so many stats on high school players where they have earned honors for their accomplishments, and that's great. We have so many good ball players in our area, that many times some better players get overlooked for their accomplishments. It just happens because of the size of the schools, or conferences, or politics, or the lack of support from their particular high school coach.

STAY ON YOUR HIGH SCHOOL TEAM!!!! Don't compromise what little help your coach may give you. When you attend those showcases and camps, that is where you will hopefully get your accolades.

If you can't do travel ball, then take extra lessons, go to hitting cages, create and invent ways of practicing your skills. I agree that "playing" the game is the main reason for improvement, but sometimes you just need to be creative.

Hang-in-there, BUT DON'T QUIT!!!!! Don't give the coach the satisfaction of knowing how frustrated you are! Play his game, you'll be a better person for it in the long run. Don't sink to his level.

Good Luck

I think everyone here has tried to give you good advice, but in reality, you know the situation better than anyone and have to make your choices. I agree with Boomer.....don't quit. In life, if you don't like your boss, you don't necessarily quit your job. You have to learn ways of coping.

As far as your summer the camps and a few good showcases. Play on a the team that will give you the most exposure. If you have the talent then someone will see you. One thing to remember...go to a college that you will be happy attending without baseball in the mix. If you get hurt or anything else, make sure you'll like where you are and will get the education you need for your future.

I understand your frustration. My son is a high schools senior and made a decision as a soph. NOT to play with the local Legion team. The big catch here is the HS coach is the assistant coach for the Legion team and the Legion coach is the assist. coach for the HS team. Need I say to much more about this. He's been treated like an outcast and often even his teammates treat him differently. He's been a starter every year and has played almost every minute of every game dudring his HS career. You can see the writing on the wall here. Very hard to take at times. We knew from past experience that his exposure would be very limited playing Legion. He would have doubt there. His goal was to play college baseball and we all felt that playing where he would get exposure outweighed just about all the other issues. Showcases, camps and Summer & Fall Travel teams....we did what we could afford to do. As a parent I wonder if we did enough. The one thing we never thought would happen would be the coaches attitude towards him. The coach rides him constantly and rarely has anything nice or good to say and publicly embarrasses him when ever he has the chance. He treats him differently than his legion boys. Our son will probably never be All County, All Met or get any accolades here in our area. The coach has changed his stats on several occasions so he can promote who he wants and give awards to guys that don't really deserve it. As a parent it a very tough thing to watch your son be treated this way and cope with. Our son has begged us NOT to interfere and we have respected his wishes. It's been very tough to take. The only saving grace is that others, outside of our area have gotten to know our son and know his abilities and his passion for the game. He received his greatest reward when he signed his NLI to a DI school last November. He has something now that 99% of the other players in our area DON'T have....the opportunity to go to the next level, in a DI program. Exposure is the name of the game. You can't expect a HS coach to do that for you. Most college coaches understand the politics of HS baseball....they generally want to make their own minds up and will want to see you in action. None of the schools our son had official visits with even contacted the HS Coach. They talked with the Summer coach and major league scouts, and of course came to see him play in the Fall if they hadn't seen him at a showcase or camp. I'm very proud of my son for his accomplishments, and for never quiting, despite his HS Coach. He may not be the star in the local newspapers,and may not receive any of the kudo's that he might deserve but one thing he did do was to continue to work hard and play as much as he could. The more S---T the coach gave him, the harder he worked. Now, he has much more than those "All County, All-State selections"... his reward, plain and simple....he's going on to play the game he loves at the DI level and he's getting good $$ to do so. While the coach and other kids are dusting off their HS trophies, he'll be playing college baseball.

Playing college baseball is like having a full time job. Getting a scholarship to play or being on the team doesn't assure you playing have to go out there and earn it. Like JUSTMOM said, the college coach will control you and and many aspects of your college life. So you'll have to accept it and learn to make the best of it.

I know this was long winded, but hang in there and work harder. Quiting is not the answer. I don't know that talking to you coach would do any good. If you decide to take that route, make sure you take someone with you to witness and or mediate the conversation. Life isn't always fair. Part of growing as an individual on and off the field is learning to deal with situations, good or bad. Ask yourself one question..."How bad do I want it?" If you're truly as good as you think you are and want it bad enough...go out there and make things happen....and again, try to play where you'll get exposure! Good Luck!
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i have some advice for you....i honestly think that you should stick it out and stay on the team....just remember that you will run into coaches that do that kind of stuff...i have played at every level of the game and like i was reading in other comments they are have a good attitude, you want to produce and get better...if your coach doesnt see that than he really shouldnt be a coach...just dont let him beat you....your chances of going to college (there are a lot of programs out there) are good...just remember though that there are a lot of good players out there, but if you believe you can do just about anything you hard and stay with it...scouts look for fundamentals and attitude...a good recruiter can tell if a coach has a grudge on you or not...he can read a coach just like he can read a glad that you are interested in going to college...just remember that if you can get a free education with your athletic ability do it...i would recommend that you go to a juco college because you have so many options from have two years to produce and the opportunity to get will get playing time...if you think your coach is going to screw you, then go after the colleges yourself...a lot of colleges have open spots for kids like you....i wish you the best and remember to hang in there you will do great..just dont beat yourself

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