Undoing a slap repair

 Show us the supporting information that this can improve your situation?  The key word here is could, why would you put yourself through a second surgery?  Unless you were a professional who makes their living playing baseball, what doctor would ever recommend anyone to do this?  Help me here.

We have had this conversation before.  How long ago did you play your last game? It's very difficult to recover from shoulder surgery, it's very difficult recovering from any surgery.

Maybe you need to accept reality and move on.

JMO

About 14 months ago (9/2015) my son had labrum surgery... started the rehab process in Dec/Jan, but kept feeling discomfort especially as he threw longer (time and distance). His original surgeon was less than helpful, so we got a second opinion from the same surgeon who repaired my wife's labrum (she doesn't pitch ;-)). Long story short, he said the sutures and anchors must have moved some and now were causing the discomfort he felt and suggested they be removed (whether he used the term tendinosis - I don't recall). The process was very simple and ended up being only a few weeks of setback. Essentially the doctor went in through the original surgery holes, cut the sutures and pulled them out. Probably took like 10 minutes. While in there he looked at the labrum and was able to tell my son that it looked fine. He started pitching competitively over the summer and now is back to where he was before surgery started (88-92). He still has some pain after throwing, but can you find any pitcher who doesn't have some pain/discomfort after throwing? 

Good luck with your decision - there's no guarantees on anything... 

I'd recommend you spend the time & money to send the records to Dr Andrews for consult. 

JohnF that is good news but kt mentioned tendinosis.

I just have to agree with baseballmom, this isnt the place for correct medical information.

I do believe that the OP is in his 3rd or 4th or more season of baseball and has had multiple issues along the way.

Sometimes you have to look yourself in the mirror and realize its time to move forward.

baseballmom posted:

I'd recommend you spend the time & money to send the records to Dr Andrews for consult. 

I'm on it

JohnF posted:

About 14 months ago (9/2015) my son had labrum surgery... started the rehab process in Dec/Jan, but kept feeling discomfort especially as he threw longer (time and distance). His original surgeon was less than helpful, so we got a second opinion from the same surgeon who repaired my wife's labrum (she doesn't pitch ;-)). Long story short, he said the sutures and anchors must have moved some and now were causing the discomfort he felt and suggested they be removed (whether he used the term tendinosis - I don't recall). The process was very simple and ended up being only a few weeks of setback. Essentially the doctor went in through the original surgery holes, cut the sutures and pulled them out. Probably took like 10 minutes. While in there he looked at the labrum and was able to tell my son that it looked fine. He started pitching competitively over the summer and now is back to where he was before surgery started (88-92). He still has some pain after throwing, but can you find any pitcher who doesn't have some pain/discomfort after throwing? 

Good luck with your decision - there's no guarantees on anything... 

Glad to know I'm not alone... How bad was he throwing before second surgery? 

kt333: essentially as soon as he tried to get beyond a certain distance or go longer than 5-10 minutes there was searing pain. Suffice to say it was very frustrating for him. I don't recall the details of distances/time.  As part of the process we let our son know that if they go back in and find you retore it, then it's time to give up baseball. Too young to have a non functioning shoulder.  You need that thing in life - it literally opens doors for you.

tpm: I hope I wasn't portraying myself as an expert - far from it (and no I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night ;-))... I even noted I couldn't remember if the word 'tendinosis' came up.  Our son had "an" experience with sutures being removed. It was successful, but he was warned it could have been worse before the doctor went in to remove them.  OTOH my wife is on her second repair (the boys point out it's her cooking arm and the doctor deftly points out to me one day it's her vacuuming arm too!).  She ripped right through the first one within a few months. She was told to be extra careful now with this second one because she's way too young for shoulder replacement surgery. The whole recovery for her has been much longer - she still cannot do things she used to do. For her though as long as she can hold a grand-child someday - that'll be good enough ;-).  As part of the therapy for the second one she's done the Platelet Rich Plasma treatment recently which seems to have helped a lot. There's another procedure which I forget the name of that was suggested if the PRP didn't work. We'll cross that bridge if we get there. 

John,

Sorry, kt mentioned tendinosis, which is a degenetation.  

Either way, my point is sometimes you just have to call it a day because the long and the short of it, sports injuries never really go away.

kt333, my son injured shoulder during spring training 2015. Team sent him back out too soon. Result: torn labrum complicated by thoracic compression syndrome. Team doc's recommended surgeries. He insisted on 2nd opinion. So began the journey...a vascular specialist/surgeon in Dallas for TCS & Dr Andrews for labrum. Instead of surgery (ies), son opted for stem cell injections & prp's, & revamped his entire workout routine. Dr Andrew's is conducting research on the stem cell treatment as a viable alternative...The big question is whether it will hold (or how long) & getting FDA approval for newest techniques.  Son was cleared to start throwing in Oct 2015, fortunate to have been able to return to the game.  Andrew's knows what he is doing. Son trusts his opinion (and expertise) implicitly.  If your issue can be corrected, Andrews' is "the one"...if not, he will tell you!

Tpm is correct...injuries = vulnerabilities that are difficult, at best, to overcome. It tends to start a pattern. We are just praying that son can keep it up...so far so good. 

Best of luck! I really hope it works out!