what could be a reason a player uppercuts in a swing or lunges? A player I know does a little of both. What are some good drills to correct uppercutting and lunging?
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there are some very simple drills that can help correct the uppercutting. First, take a tee and raise it until the pitch is in the highest part of the strike zone. then have the player try to hit ground balls off the tee.
better yet, learn a good launch position, unloading the body and what hands do to bring the barrel to the ball.
You can do "drills" all day long. But, know what you need to fix and how you're going to fix it is a better path to take. IOW, it isn't the drills, it the understanding of what needs to be done that will fix the problem.
You can do "drills" all day long. But, know what you need to fix and how you're going to fix it is a better path to take. IOW, it isn't the drills, it the understanding of what needs to be done that will fix the problem.
Noreast,
Very true, a valid point that I missed.
Very true, a valid point that I missed.
quote:A player I know does a little of both. (uppercutting and lunging)
quite a difficult task........any chance you caught it on tape...
quote:quite a difficult task........
I agree....Doesn't sound legit to me!!
See "hitting a lot of lazy fly balls" post by JDsdad. He is doing both! Very downward at the start and very upward finish. When you see this in person, it would look like an uppercut since he keeps hitting fly balls. JMO
quote:Originally posted by BlueDog:quote:quite a difficult task........
I agree....Doesn't sound legit to me!!
Depends on your cause/effect analysis what you want to do/accomplish with drills.
Uppercutting and lunging may sound very different, but one way to look at it is that they are BOTH related to poor weight shift synch.
This is better understood in golf where lots of people swing all day all their life and get immediate ball flight feedback with lots of studies and pretty good understanding of casue effect.
Alos, in golf, you do NOT want ground balls, so there IS "lunging" in golf, but not like in hitting.
In golf, good "weight shift", involves the hips getting forward but the upper body/head staying back.
If you bring everything forward - hips and upper body and head, it's "lunging" or "swaying" or evem "rushing" -"rushing" again, in the sense that the head/upper body are getting too far forward too fast.
In GOLF, you usually automatically correct once the lunge is underway to produce a FLY ball becasue you know you don't want a grounder. So even though you have started the weight forward with a sway/lunge, before contact, you BAIL OUT by a "reverse PIVOT" where you shift the weight back to the back leg, rotation is interfered with, the swing is more over the top/slicing/hitting around the ball and the clubhead is thrown weakly ahead of the hands to get things airborn.
This automatic late compensation/correction is not so ingrained in hitting, so you can go ahead and swing down and ghet away with a grounder so weight often goes back to front as "lunging" usually means in hitting.
In BOTH golf and MLB hitting, the weight shift has to keep the center moving forward and usually up until contact, but not beyond the center of pressure of the front foot.
In addition to the weight forward too soon flaw, there is the weight never goes forward flaw whic creates the loopy uppercut.
So you can upercut in baseball by EITHER weight forward too soon, then reverse pivoting OR by just keeping the weight back and never getting off the back side ("swing down" cue can encourage weight coming steadily forward for example in those who NEVER get off back side).
So, weight shift is an important part of the cause and effect of fixing both lunging and upeprcutting. You don't want to leave this consideration out of your "fix".
OR you could "LUNGE" by taking weight forward past center.
Uppercutting and lunging may sound very different, but one way to look at it is that they are BOTH related to poor weight shift synch.
This is better understood in golf where lots of people swing all day all their life and get immediate ball flight feedback with lots of studies and pretty good understanding of casue effect.
Alos, in golf, you do NOT want ground balls, so there IS "lunging" in golf, but not like in hitting.
In golf, good "weight shift", involves the hips getting forward but the upper body/head staying back.
If you bring everything forward - hips and upper body and head, it's "lunging" or "swaying" or evem "rushing" -"rushing" again, in the sense that the head/upper body are getting too far forward too fast.
In GOLF, you usually automatically correct once the lunge is underway to produce a FLY ball becasue you know you don't want a grounder. So even though you have started the weight forward with a sway/lunge, before contact, you BAIL OUT by a "reverse PIVOT" where you shift the weight back to the back leg, rotation is interfered with, the swing is more over the top/slicing/hitting around the ball and the clubhead is thrown weakly ahead of the hands to get things airborn.
This automatic late compensation/correction is not so ingrained in hitting, so you can go ahead and swing down and ghet away with a grounder so weight often goes back to front as "lunging" usually means in hitting.
In BOTH golf and MLB hitting, the weight shift has to keep the center moving forward and usually up until contact, but not beyond the center of pressure of the front foot.
In addition to the weight forward too soon flaw, there is the weight never goes forward flaw whic creates the loopy uppercut.
So you can upercut in baseball by EITHER weight forward too soon, then reverse pivoting OR by just keeping the weight back and never getting off the back side ("swing down" cue can encourage weight coming steadily forward for example in those who NEVER get off back side).
So, weight shift is an important part of the cause and effect of fixing both lunging and upeprcutting. You don't want to leave this consideration out of your "fix".
OR you could "LUNGE" by taking weight forward past center.
quote:Originally posted by tom.guerry:
Depends on your cause/effect analysis what you want to do/accomplish with drills.
Uppercutting and lunging may sound very different, but one way to look at it is that they are BOTH related to poor weight shift synch.
This is better understood in golf where lots of people swing all day all their life and get immediate ball flight feedback with lots of studies and pretty good understanding of casue effect.
Alos, in golf, you do NOT want ground balls, so there IS "lunging" in golf, but not like in hitting.
In golf, good "weight shift", involves the hips getting forward but the upper body/head staying back.
If you bring everything forward - hips and upper body and head, it's "lunging" or "swaying" or evem "rushing" -"rushing" again, in the sense that the head/upper body are getting too far forward too fast.
In GOLF, you usually automatically correct once the lunge is underway to produce a FLY ball becasue you know you don't want a grounder. So even though you have started the weight forward with a sway/lunge, before contact, you BAIL OUT by a "reverse PIVOT" where you shift the weight back to the back leg, rotation is interfered with, the swing is more over the top/slicing/hitting around the ball and the clubhead is thrown weakly ahead of the hands to get things airborn.
This automatic late compensation/correction is not so ingrained in hitting, so you can go ahead and swing down and ghet away with a grounder so weight often goes back to front as "lunging" usually means in hitting.
In BOTH golf and MLB hitting, the weight shift has to keep the center moving forward and usually up until contact, but not beyond the center of pressure of the front foot.
In addition to the weight forward too soon flaw, there is the weight never goes forward flaw whic creates the loopy uppercut.
So you can upercut in baseball by EITHER weight forward too soon, then reverse pivoting OR by just keeping the weight back and never getting off the back side ("swing down" cue can encourage weight coming steadily forward for example in those who NEVER get off back side).OR you could "LUNGE" by taking weight forward past center.
So, weight shift is an important part of the cause and effect of fixing both lunging and upeprcutting. You don't want to leave this consideration out of your "fix".
