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Is it a performance enhancing drug? Does this practice impact the outcome of the game? If not, then who cares? Sounds like a personal & private issue to me.

What else would you like to ban? Smoking in clubhouse? Offensive music in the clubhouse? Offensive language on the ballfield? Spitting (seeds, mucus) in the dugout & ballfield? Crotch grabs at the plate (how offensive & suggestive!) because the protective cup in uncomfortable?

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Originally posted by dbg_fan:
Is it a performance enhancing drug? Does this practice impact the outcome of the game? If not, then who cares? Sounds like a personal & private issue to me.

What else would you like to ban? Smoking in clubhouse? Offensive music in the clubhouse? Offensive language on the ballfield? Spitting (seeds, mucus) in the dugout & ballfield? Crotch grabs at the plate (how offensive & suggestive!) because the protective cup in uncomfortable?

Exactly. Who is baseball to decide they have the right to determine behaviour at baseball games?

Alcohol isn't a performance enhancement drug, why not a keg in the dugout?

Would those that want the ban think differently if the practice didn't cause major health issues?

Couple reasons. First, people do stupid things that wind up costing society in the form of money. Tobacco, seatbelts, alcohol etc. You are right, we can't enforce our subjective morals on society and I am certain that some players would continue to dip on the field even if banned. When I dipped snuff, I did not spit so it was easier to conceal. Which brings me to my second reason.

One less bad role model for kids.

Performance enhancing drug? Probably, but it is legal so that is not a reason to ban its use on MLB fields.

I agree with Texas... the role model thing is what gets me. And it's so prevalent in baseball. My son's coaches all dip, right in front of the players. I place college players in homes for a summer team, and the biggest issue I have is host families not wanting a player who dips, and so many of these kids do.

Sometimes I think of starting an advocacy group.... so far I've gotten as far as a name: BMAD (Baseball Moms Against Dip)... but right now it's only a name....

What a great name!

That's interesting about the host families specifically not wanting dippers.

On most high school ballfields it is illegal to dip(still school grounds). Your son's coaches doing this at games? We once played a team from outside the county and it was very obvious to us the pitcher was chewing more than just gum or seeds. Especially when he turned green and puked his brains out between pitches! Felt bad for the kid but hope he learned a lesson.

I knew a young (30s) lawyer years back who kept a styrofoam cup next to him all the time. He died of some kind of mouth cancer before he made it to 35.

This wouldn't be the government deciding this. It would be the employer, in conjunction with the union. I doubt you'd get much support for it from the people it impacts.

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What else would you like to ban? Smoking in clubhouse? Offensive music in the clubhouse? Offensive language on the ballfield? Spitting (seeds, mucus) in the dugout & ballfield? Crotch grabs at the plate (how offensive & suggestive!) because the protective cup in uncomfortable?

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Alcohol isn't a performance enhancement drug, why not a keg in the dugout?

Having an intoxicated pitcher throwing 95 mph fastballs seems like more of a risk than someone packing a lip during a game. Everyone who chews knows the risk, the warnings take up most of the can. It's their right if they still want to do it.

Most work places ban the use of tobacco

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
Exactly. Who is baseball to decide they have the right to determine behaviour at baseball games?

Alcohol isn't a performance enhancement drug, why not a keg in the dugout?

The next thing you know, they'll have giant beer signs all over the stadium.

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Giant? I've never tipped one of those back.



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Alcohol isn't a performance enhancement drug, why not a keg in the dugout?

Having an intoxicated pitcher throwing 95 mph fastballs seems like more of a risk than someone packing a lip during a game. Everyone who chews knows the risk, the warnings take up most of the can. It's their right if they still want to do it.

1. Makes the Babe's accomplishments look even better. Instead if performance enhancing drugs, he consumed performance inhibiting drugs.

2. There is no "right" to dip. I checked.

3. There's no right to be stupid either, but look at all those using "smokeless" tobacco. You'd think rather than a right, stupid was mandated.

It's perfectly legal to take out your own appendix. That doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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Wow...I wouldn't be surprised if that thing sells though

Stu