Video

rocky

Call the coach and ask him what his desires are

In most cases a simple video is all that is needed to pique the coaches interest---the video won't get you a scholarship but it can spark interest

you have a PM

send a video filmed now from behind the catcher and video tape the radar gun readings.

college coaches will offer scholarships based on video. PROVIDED THE PLAYER SHOWS TOOLS.

Show the RADAR READINGS on tape

Dibble

You continue to amaze me !!!!!

I would worry about an offer based on a tape

Travis Lee was offered a scholarship to SDSU based soley on a video tape, the coach never saw him play.

The problem is most of the video received are from player who have no talent.

a little footnote a few years ago I saw a player video online, liked his swing, had him at a HS showcase. Guess what the player went in the 5th round and was named 10 ten prospect in the minor league in 2004.


MLSB video tapes prospects, so does skills show and baseball factory.

click on ton ten draft prospects video,
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/draftday/y2004/index.jsp

Dibble

You continue to babble like the proverbial brook

What does the MLSB taping a player have to do with a college offering a scholarship?

The tape is a means of piquing interest not getting a scholarship--not to say it does not happen once in a blue moon but parents should not belive that a tape will get their kid a scholarship--it just aint the way it is !!!! Ask Skillshow and Baseball Factory !!!

Sorry TR, any coach with half a brain get a video tape from a pitcher with 90 mph readings on a stalker gun on the video tape, is gonna make him an offer. I had players offered scholarship that way.Plus this past spring a player was mentioned to me at a college game by the SID worth taking a look at, he had just pitch the day, before, the SID had video of him pitching.
We got a MLB scout to look at the tape. After viewing the tape the player was invited to the Teams Pre Draft. The player was drafted by another team, and made the Cape League all Star team and is projected as a high draft pick this year.

Video can work. MLB scouts video tape platers for their Scouting directors. The problem is majority of tapes sent to college coaches are palyers with no talent. College would love to get a video of a LHP who throws 90 mphs, not the 75 mph 5-10 RHP like they get the most of the time.

Videos can be dummied as well-- no matter what the tape says he may not be throwing 90

Dibble you still amaze me

Yeah maybe steven spleiberg can doctor a video tape or radar gun, but I doubt most parents are bright enought to do that.

Sorry TR you cant doctor a good swing or good mechanics.

So far I have not gotten a bogus (forgazee) tapes in the mail yet.



Sorry I am watching Donnie Brasco, hey forgetaboutit

rocky25...

Excellent link(s) to information building around your questions.

Good luck to your son!

Making A Baseball Videotape:
http://hsbaseballweb.com/interviews_photo_gallery/make_a_videotape.htm

How Do I Get Noticed - by Bob Howdeshell
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/getting_noticed.htm

What Scouts Look For When Evaluating Pitchers:
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/pro-scouting/scouting_pitchers.htm

How To Target Market Your Son To A College Baseball Program:
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/target_market.htm

DRIVEL

You talk radar and speed and then you switch to tools and mechanics --make up your mind

The pitching radar can be doctored and very easily

As for Donnie Brasco he may be in your neighborhood any day now--he is looking for a southern showcase for his son--the kid throws 95 with a curve to break your back-- also runs a 6.5 60 and hits the ball 500 feet from both sides of the plate.His "special" coach/trainer is Pacino

He is sending you a tape ( undoctored )-- open carefully

Have a good day


OH __one more thing-- parents/players should not be led to believe that a tape will get them a scholarship-- It may happen in the "Mind of Dibble" but not in the real world except on a very rare occasion

TR, How right you are! Most kids are NOT Travis Lee or throw 90 MPH. And those that are and do, probably don't need to rely on tapes. For the mortals among us, the tape is one piece of the recruiting process. By the time a scholarship is offered, the tape is long forgotten.

In our process, not 1 coach asked for or wanted a video...however, they did ask since he had been to several PG events if he had a skillshow video online...BINGO...they said it is professional, short, unabated and undoctored.

Many of the coaches said home made videos hurt the player more than it helped.

Just my experience for what it's worth.

Starzz

Your point regarding Skillshow is a good one-- their credibiltiy is the reason that they will with us at both our showcases this year--

Dribble, you should change your name to Drivel. There's no coach in the country that would offer a scholarship after viewing a tape. All a tape does is open the door for more interest - a possible visit to watch the player in person, calls to coaches or maybe even a trip. My brother-in-law played with Travis Lee and he would have been offered a scholarship to SDSU if he just sent his senior picture. He was so well known at the time the tape meant nothing, but the fact he was interested in SDSU.

Thank you Hit and Run !!!!!

Your welcome, TR. Where do some of these people on this site come from? I'd like Drivel to tell us what schools offer scholarships based on tapes. C'mon, Drivel, tell us so I can put my tape in the mail first thing Monday! The previous poster who mentioned that the tape is long forgotten once a scholarship is offered is right on the money. The tape is a simple door opener - for the likes of Travis Lee it means little - for most other mortals it could mean a bit of interest that otherwise would not have been generated.

Hit and Run

You have to bear with Drivel--he tends to get a bit delusional

TR,

Video can definately help PROVIDED the player has tools. Explain how you can alter a radar gun readings. I am sure alot of parents woudl like to learn how they can do it.

Travis Lee was in Oregon. Jim Dietz has gotten alot of players from there, but Dietz never went up to Oregon to see Travis play, he asked for a video. Any coach with a brain can tell hitter after viewing a film.

Drivel

If they so desire they know where I am--no need to post here for your benefit

Why do you keep going back to Travis Lee---we are talking here of the HS player looking for a break not the stud--the stud will get what he needs no matter what

The Benefits of a Recruiting Video


http://www.skillshow.com/video_recruiting.aspx

Drivel - Where is it stated on the skillshow website that a tape alone can get you a scholarship? Secondly, get your facts straight on Travis Lee. He was originally from San Diego and Dietz was very familiar with him way before any tape arrived. I get the impression you are trying to sell something.

I shoot video of most of the players I work with. Like everything else in life, effectiveness is dependent on the quality of the video.
For pitchers, I find most coaches prefer a quality bullpen shoot. Will it alone get a scholarship offer? I've never seen it and would never suggest it.
However, I can tell you that good video can be a great tool. I just had a player (pitcher) commit to a western D1. The dad told me that the pitching coach at the school spent over an hour on the phone with the player while they both looked at the vid. The coach was giving him suggestions of things he'd like to work on down the road. Particularly with DVD, I can give a coach a great look at a kid from every imaginable angle.
I think it also helps when you shoot one on one on a real field, unlike many of these canned vid shoots at showcases where quality is pretty shaky.

Travis Lee


http://www.goldpanners.com/Pressbox/Players/l/lee-travis_93-94.htm

There you have it, Drivel. Jim Dietz was well aware of Travis Lee while he was in high school because he coached him! There was no tape. Nice story though. Maybe you can write a screenplay...move over Coach Carter and hello Coach Drivel.

DRIVEL

For you information SKILLSHOW will be at both of our showcases this year, in Norwich CT and in Binghamton, NY

They will also speak at our seminar on the eve of each event and the key point of their talk is that videos are to simple pique the interest of coaches and scouts not to GET SCHOLARSHIPS. They we would not be with us if both College Select and Skillshow did not concur on this vital point.

It is guys like you, DRIVEL , that have parents thinking there is a scholarship waiting for their son just because they sent in a video.

I hate it when parents and players are mislead into believing fiction like you tell

TR, thanks for the college select sales pitch. what percentage of college select showcase players are playing baseball in college

Travi Lee had been born in San Diego but moved and went HS in Washington, batted .600 his senior year. Travis sent a tape to Jim Dietz. Dietz who coached a team in the Alaska League brought Travis up there to workout and play for a week as a graduating senior, Very rare. Travis hit so well Dietz kept him all year and gave him a athletic scholarship to SDSU.

The video got his foot in the door. I am sure Dietz received likley a thousand videos of people that cant play and DID NOT RECEIVE A SCHOLARSHIP. Lee can play any coach can tell from a video of Lee hitting


Just a little footnote TR, a college coach at College Select Showcase during a seminar said he was looking for a LHP and LHP only. Yours trully had one who threw mid to upper 80's. The coach got a video of the player and MLB scout recommendations and received a scholarship to that college. The LHP is now in the Central League.

If you have TALENT, a college coach can tell from a video, if you dont they can tell even faster.

Yours trully received video from a ton of players, I had helped just 2 players. One became a college all american and another was drafted and finished in the top 5 in the Gulf Coast league in hitting.

DRIVEL

Not a sales pitch --just a means of telling you and others why you are incorrect and misleading players and parents who are just getting into the recruiting process.

As for you initial question regarding number of players heading to college --watch for our updated alumni page on our site this week and you and others can make your own deduction.

And as noted earlier I stated that in instances you cite happen but they are very very rare-- parents and players should not be led to believe that it is a rule of thumb which is what you imply.

I have said my piece on the matter--there is no more to say--poeple can make their own decision as to which route to take

TR
I keep saying over and over YOU MUST HAVE TALENT

According
to your web site, 7 players reached 85 mph at College select showcases in 2004


The first post asked what video should he send.


I said a well made video with a talent ball player can lead to a scholarship. If the player sending video can break 80mph he is wasting his time. Just watch American Idol how many people think they have talent and you can tell from the video they dont. Baseball is no different.

You cant hide tool, you cant hide lack
of talent either. All projected high draft picks get video taped by the MLSB and most team scouts . It helps greatly in selling players on the draft list to the SD

DIBBLE

Nowhere do we list all the pitcher radar readings on our site

What we do list the pitchers we felt were impressive based on pitching ability not just radar readings. Learn how to read what we write on our site not what YOU want to read-- you read like you cut and paste ---selectively for your own use !!!

By the way American Idol is made for TV Entertainment-- please do not equate that with baseball !!!!

Dibble - You do not know what you are talking about. My e-mail address is below. Send me an e-mail and I'll personally tell you the story about Travis Lee and Jim Dietz. You are getting your information second hand and as TR posted, you are misleading players and parents.

js08560@hotmailcom

http://www.goldpanners.com/Pressbox/Players/l/lee-travis_93-94.htm

I'm not going to reflect on all the arguing in the posts of this thread. I'm sorry they have resorted to this as I know you are here seeking advice and here is mine.

If the coach asked for a video, then send one. I think an indoors one would be fine and should give the coach a starting point. Coaches see things differently than a normal person and will be able to make an initial assessment and hopefully a follow-up will occur.

Like Chicks, I am not going to get into the middle of this bickering in this forum.
I believe the original questions involved whether it was advisable to send a video of his son throwing indoors. The answer to that is that it does not matter whether it is indoors or outdoors. A coach can get a good view of the mechanics whether indoors or outdoors. I was talking with a Scout from a Major League team recently who said he could tell A LOT about a players video from just watching 1 to 1-1/2 minutes of video.
I also talked to a D1 coach a few months ago who said that he gets SO many videos (Up to 25) each week that he doesn't have time to view them. His general statement to me was that he will know about a good player BEFORE anyone else, so don't waste time sending a tape to a D1 coach unless he requests it. The schools to send videos to are D2 and D3 schools and not make them 15 minutes long as coaches do not have time to view 15 minute videos from 25 players.
Lastly, videos are only meant as an aid in the recruiting process. They are like a candy store that puts samples out to pique its potential cutomers interest. A coach needs to see a player up-close...they do not give a scholarship or place a kid on a team just from viewing a video.